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    A few days ago, I stumbled on the ad posted below, which advocated signing the "firearms Sovereignty Survey". Although it relates to gun control, it's a broader topic than the discussion of HB2471, so it made sense to start a new thread:

    http://www.nagr.org/UN_lp_survey2.aspx

    The author was a man named Rand Paul, who I really wasn't familiar with. He was elected as the junior senator from Kentucky during the Tea Party siege in 2010. Coincidentally,. his dad is Ron Paul, who currently is running for President.

    Mr. Paul and his dad apparently are against ANY type of gun control. although a total ban on weapons worldwide would also be silly, and ineffective, having at least some type of worldwide control on weapons seems very logical to me.

    The United Nations has been working on a universal agreement for at least the last five years. details on the United Nations Office for Disarmament Affairs can be found at the link below:

    http://www.un.org/disarmament/convarms/ArmsTradeTreaty/

    Once the U.N. finally came to an agreement on how to control the things that kill people,there would be much less chance of occurrences like "Operation Fast and Furious":


    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/01/24/fast-and-furious-gun-scandal_n_1229124...

    By the way, if you know anyone who lives in Kentucky, GET MR. RAND PAUL DEFEATED out of office as soon as you can !!
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    Taking away people's guns is probably not the best idea. Germany enforced strict gun laws right before the holocaust happened and the people weren't able to defend themselves. With the economy getting worse, normal citizens being labeled as terrorist, people getting sent to Guantanamo without trial, drones flying over US skies, and police cracking down on protesters you never know what the distant future holds. You can't put too much trust in a government controlled by money. Especially when the same money controls the media and the ability to twist public opinion.
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    Elizabeth:


    Since a fairly high percentage of American households own at least on gun (estimates range from 38% to 50%) , taking away people's guns isn't an option.

    Interestingly, Kennesaw, Georgia passed a law in 1982 that REQUIRED every household to own at least one gun.

    http://rense.com/general9/gunlaw.htm

    Fareed Zakaria's recent column for CNN is worth reading.

    The highlights are the fact that our country has 5% of the world's population, and 50% of the world's guns.
    Per 100 population, we have the highest rate of gun ownership in the entire world.

    http://globalpublicsquare.blogs.cnn.com/2012/07/27/time-to-face-facts-on-gun-co...

    We also have one of the highest homicide rate by firearms of any country in the world.

    http://tohell-andback.blogspot.com/2010/01/bang-youre-dead.html


    You're correct that taking away people's 's guns isn't the answer, but  we DO need more sensible laws.If you'd like to read more about gun control, the articles posted below
    will give you more details:

    http://tohell-andback.blogspot.com/2012/08/impeach-wayne-lapierre.html

    http://tohell-andback.blogspot.com/2012/07/good-night-and-good-luck.html
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    Elizabeth Watson Wrote: Taking away people's guns is probably not the best idea. Germany enforced strict gun laws right before the holocaust happened and the people weren't able to defend themselves. With the economy getting worse, normal citizens being labeled as terrorist, people getting sent to Guantanamo without trial, drones flying over US skies, and police cracking down on protesters you never know what the distant future holds. You can't put too much trust in a government controlled by money. Especially when the same money controls the media and the ability to twist public opinion.


     

    It sure does seem we are walking in the footsteps of Germany, right before World War II, a double foot print maybe, with the Roman Empires foot prints right before their fall.  I’m so glad history never repeats, else our future would be very clear.      

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    I think there is a motive for some of the madness of the Tea Party --- if they just "go crazy" with allowing all kinds of guns being carried everywhere, and no banning or restrictions on weapons of any kind --- then WHEN the GOP take total Power, like soon after January 1, 2013 ---  they can suddenly USE the CONCEPT of all those guns being used to foment violence and rebellion. (and how dangerous all that is) --- to suddenly PASS very extreme Fascist laws, severely limiting hours before curfew, and how many guns the ordinary citizen would be allowed to keep. They would issue severe PENALTIES for those violating the curfew, or having too many guns. Because once the Fascist Govt has taken over, nobody will ever be allowed to defend themselves ever again.