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Is God a Republican?


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  • Schmidt
    2011-11-12 03:47:50 PM
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    As the Huffington Post reported, Herman Cain said today that it was God telling him to run for President.

    "I prayed and prayed and prayed," Cain told about 100 members of the Georgia Young Republicans in Atlanta on Saturday. "I'm a man of faith, I had to do a lot of praying for this one, more praying than I'd ever done before in my life. And when I finally realized that it was God saying that this is what I needed to do, I was like Moses. 'You've got the wrong man, Lord. Are you sure?'"

    And back in May, Michelle Bachmann also had a calling: "I've had this calling and tugging on my heart that this is the right thing to do."

    And according to the Atlantic, Rick Perry back in May also cited God: "At 27 years old, I knew that I had been called to the ministry. I've just always been really stunned by how big a pulpit I was gonna have. I still am. I truly believe with all my heart that God has put me in this place at this time to do his will."

    And in July Perry had this to say: "I'm not ready to tell you that I'm ready to announce that I'm in ... but I'm getting more and more comfortable every day that this is what I've been called to do. This is what America needs."

    And in June, Rick Santorum said he is running on God's platform: "America belongs to God, he said. And his wife reaffirmed his God connection: “We believe with all our hearts that this is what God wants.”

    Newt Gingrich sought God's forgiveness for his sins, and goes even further: "And I do feel, in that sense, that God has given me, has blessed me with an opportunity as a person."

    Even Mitt Romney accordiing to the LA Times has to somehow get God into his message, although not as obtuse as the other candidates. "This century must be an American century," Romney said. "In an American century, America has the strongest economy and the strongest military in the world. God did not create this country to be a nation of followers."

    Well sure there are some Democrats that also mention God.  Obama closes many of his speeches with "God bless the United States of America."  But this isn't the same as having a "calling" from God as the Republican front runners claim.  So it begs the question with so many Republicans openly citing God for advice in their politcal campaigns: Is God a Republican?
  • Veronica
    2011-11-18 01:03:04 PM
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    Where do I start? The question is very intriguing. Could God possibly be a Republican?  Since so many of the GOP claim to be "called to serve God, & to be the President."  Of course we recognize that many people these days are quite delusional about their job choices. They aspire to be President when they don't know Libya from a fruit salad. Their idea of a budget is to have an accountant tell them their bank balance once a year. And some GOP have regular "let's make a deal" bargaining sessions with the IRS. Where they get their "Keep out of Jail" card annually renewed.

    Let's start with Geo "W" Bush, who claimed that "God wants him to be President."  First of all, it is unlikely that God could not do any better than George "W" as his first choice for President, if he had even one other man on earth to compare with him. I assume God  would want any President to have at least an average IQ, a very good character, (free of lying & cheating on tests & elections) & to have no addictions ("W" was alcoholic much of his life). The Bible says Jesus was born the Prince of PEACE. Then Bush revealed (after 9/11) that he wanted to wage war with 50 nations for 50 years. This blew the whole "peace" idea to shreds. So now we are back to Square One.

    Who would God choose to be President OR in Congress?  Likely he would favor "real" Christians who knew & believed the ideals of Christ. The chosen candidates should obey the 10 commandments.  Thou shalt not kill, nor commit adultery, or bear false witness against thy neighbor. But # 1, they should Love the Lord thy God with all their heart & soul & mind. And # 2, they should LOVE THY NEIGHBOR as THYSELF. On these 2 hang all the law & the prophets. (Matthew 22: 36-40). They should also work for PEACE, & to enhance the well-being & prosperity of all of their citizens.

    When many of the GOP make claims that "God wants them to be President" -- while being some kind of masquerading clown, remember this: "Take heed that no man deceive you, For many shall come in my name, saying 'I am Christ' & shall deceive many." (Matt 24:5) "For there shall arise false Christs, & false prophets, insomuch that if possible, they shall deceive the very elect." (Matt 24: 24).  

    What are the criteria for Judgment Day? Who goes to Heaven?  READ (Matt 25: 34 - 46). Jesus will Judge. WHO Fed the hungry, Helped the poor, sick & the elderly? (Answer: Democrats).
  • that guy in Arizona
    2011-11-19 07:23:48 PM
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    Veronica (and Schmidt):

    I stumbled on the website below recently, which ties in very well with both of your comments ..

    as you can easily see, God is a liberal, which definitely would not make him a Republican:

    www.zompist.com/meetthepoor.html

    there may well have been some "compassionate conservatives" at some point in time,
    but those kinds of Republicans simply don't exist  anymore ...
  • Veronica
    2011-11-20 06:45:09 AM
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    Hello Arizona:  Always enjoy your posts. Looked up the website you listed, (on religion) & it has a lot  of great Bible references to use, especially in trying to convince the right wingers that God is not always on their side: )  Quite the contrary. As you said "God is a liberal" & that is obvious if anyone ever tries to think about it logically. And it appears that most of the Founders of America were liberals also. But of course, the GOP seems to feel morally justified to bash liberals any chance they get: )
    This is not the America I was raised in. Or the same Republican party that existed in Ike's day. We have all lost some innocence & naiivete along the way. But realistically I do not see any way to bring it back. You can't "un-brain-wash" people. What took 30+ yrs to achieve can't be easily undone.
    Please stay with us, on this forum, and keep posting. I learn a lot from your articles.
  • that guy in Arizona
    2011-11-20 09:14:39 AM
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    Veronica:


    I always get nervous when people say that "God told them to ... " , and then they use Scripture to justify their position because it's "the word of God". What's often lost in the shuffle is that the Bible itself is far from clear on various postiions.

    If you're up for a quiz, you'll find the attached link to be of interest:

    tohell-andback.blogspot.com/2010/09/bible-told-me-so.html


    The final two paragraphs actually apply DIRECTLY to the current political discussion in our country, even though I penned the words over a year ago.
  • Cracam
    2011-12-01 05:29:33 PM
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    God may not be a Republican but he is right-wing, he doesn't care about trying to apease everyone, what was wrong and a sin 2000 years ago is still wrong and a sin today..God doesn't change, he was Holy and still is...God's way is the ONLY way, and it's not going to change because our "culture" wants to change it..
  • that guy in Arizona
    2011-12-01 10:46:05 PM
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    Cracam:


    At your convenience, take the "Bible quiz" listed above.

    The results will surprise you.

  • Cracam
    2011-12-02 07:48:38 PM
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    Arizona..actually I got 6..not so sure about the adultery one as "when you conquer someone and take their virgins" perhaps he was talking to the single soldiers only..
  • that guy in Arizona
    2011-12-02 10:18:25 PM
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    Cracam:


    6 correct is actually pretty good ...

    you've done better than most people, and certainly better than most people who regularly
    attend "Bible study classes" ...

    congratulations !!!
  • BuyAmerican
    2012-01-02 09:20:29 PM
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    There is no way God is a "right wing" Republican who chose to only help the rich 1% of Americans or only Corporate America.

    God chose to help the needy, and not only the rich like Republicans...
    God chose to allow people to make their own choices, and didn't take away anyones right to choose like Republicans...
    God chose to love all the people - legal or illegal, rich or poor, Black, Brown or White, American or non-American, Union or non-Union, Blue state or Red state...

    Right-Wing Republicans have to much hatred towards people that don't agree with them, for God to be a right-winger...

  • that guy in Arizona
    2012-01-03 09:29:04 AM
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    Since today is the today that the Republican Party "sends in the clowns", and the Iowa
    voters get to pick one of them, it's worthwhile to watch a clip of the last Republican who
    actually had a sense of humor. You may or may not like Ronald Reagan, but I think that
    you'll get a chuckle out of this video:


    www.youtube.com/watch?v=mmwDaYpgFMU
  • Schmidt
    2012-01-03 04:25:25 PM
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    Thanks Arizona...yes Ronald Reagan was a popular likable guy. And he made some good speeches and jokes. And that joke on the manure pile was very good...it could be reversed, of course. But digging deeper into his Presidency, some of the myths of Ronald Reagan become tarnished. I won't get into those now. Getting back to the topic of God and Republicans, Pat Robertson has now talked to God and has some views to share.

    As per the Huffington Post, January 3, 2012: Pat Robertson: God Told Me Who The Next President Will Be

    Yeah that's right...Pat Robertson has talked to God again: "I think He showed me about the next president, but I'm not supposed to talk about that so I'll leave you in the dark -- probably just as well -- but I think I know who it's gonna be," Robertson said Tuesday on the Christian Broadcasting Network's "700 Club."

    According to Robertson, God doesn't support President Barack Obama's agenda and says that only "overwhelming prayer" can bring a new leader who will stop the country from "disintegrating."

    Do we trust Pat Robertson that he actually had this conversation with God?

    How does his message play with the Iowa Caucus goers?
  • independentliberal
    2012-01-03 08:53:13 PM
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    lol a republican?! of course not! lol
  • that guy in Arizona
    2012-01-03 09:41:20 PM
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    Schmidt:

    To use medical terminology, I feel that Pat Robertson is a bit of a "quack"

    LIsted below are his 10 dumbest statements:

    politicalhumor.about.com/od/funnyquotes/a/patrobertson.htm


    and here are a few more clips of the main actor in "Bedtime for Bonzo":

    www.youtube.com/watch?v=4zD8Y4SPpIU&feature=related
  • Schmidt
    2012-01-04 08:00:46 AM
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    Arizona,

    Yes I remember many of those Ronald Reagan jokes. It's what kept him popular with a conservative agenda that didn't serve the middle class very well...especially union workers.

    Pat Robertson has become rich as a televangelist. And saying those wacky things resonates with his base. I searched the internet, but the most often quoted number of his personal wealth is between $200 million and $1 billion. Don't know the original source of those numbers though, and I haven't taken the time to fact check it.

    The televangelist profession has been very lucrative to those that have been able to connect with "their flock." I would never want stereotype all ministries with the "for profit" motive, but I think that televangelists Pat Robertson, Benny Hinn, Harold Camping, Oral Roberts, Jimmy Swaggart and some others have exploited their followers for personal gain. It is unfortunate, however, because these guys give many of the legitimate ministries a bad name. I'm a non religious person, but I donate to a local ministry because they are one of the few in Colorado Springs that cater to the homeless, including homeless veterans. The city prefers to buy them a bus ticket and send them out of town.

    Nevertheless, what always astounds me is how poor and middle class people can keeps sending the televangelists like Pat Robertson money. I suppose it's just a more modern form of exploitation that has been going on for centuries in all religions. We can admire the numerous magnificent cathedrals, temples, and mosques built centuries ago that span all continents, but I often wonder...who actually paid for them...and how and why? Was it voluntary contributions or was it "taxes?" I suppose I could do research on that but I haven't.

    I would like to see the tax code changed to allow deductions for only those activities that relate to benevolence. Much of their money is invested in land and other financial instruments as well as political activity (illegal) and too little in helping the poor.
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