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Michele Bachmann's "End of Days" Prediction

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    [url=https://www.democratichub.com/user/71251.aspx">eternal flame[/url] Wrote: You guys must be clairvoyant or something. I was just finishing my 3rd chocolate out of my Russell Stover's "Assorted Creams" -- just this minute. Well, it beats having to cook supper. (ha) Just a quickie thought about "religion" & "U.S. Government" -- being intermingled. The Founders did NOT want a Theocracy, and they did not advocate for one religion & "one only" -- but they did believe that Religion is the foundation of morals & principles of ethical behavior. We have now carried on this belief, so our currency is engraved IN GOD WE TRUST, and our Pledge of Allegiance says: "one nation under God," And when our US President is taking his Oath of Office, (with his hand on the Bible) -- he says "I swear to preserve, protect & defend the Constitution" --- so help me God."
    (At his swearing in - - at this point, Abraham Lincoln "kissed" the Bible.) -- And 6 yrs ago, OUR President Obama used Abe Lincoln's Bible for taking his oath.

    Ef, there is nothing in the constitution that requires the president-elect to put his hand on a bible.

    "Under God" was added during the height of the red scare of the fifties.

    Keith Ellison used a q'uran. There are atheists, iirc, in congress. They should not have to mention "God" at all especially since it is not required.

    For a Christian nation or a nation with a christian foundation God and the christ are strangely missing from the founding documents.
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    lonely bird Wrote:
    [url=https://www.democratichub.com/user/71251.aspx">eternal flame[/url] Wrote: You guys must be clairvoyant or something. I was just finishing my 3rd chocolate out of my Russell Stover's "Assorted Creams" -- just this minute. Well, it beats having to cook supper. (ha) Just a quickie thought about "religion" & "U.S. Government" -- being intermingled. The Founders did NOT want a Theocracy, and they did not advocate for one religion & "one only" -- but they did believe that Religion is the foundation of morals & principles of ethical behavior. We have now carried on this belief, so our currency is engraved IN GOD WE TRUST, and our Pledge of Allegiance says: "one nation under God," And when our US President is taking his Oath of Office, (with his hand on the Bible) -- he says "I swear to preserve, protect & defend the Constitution" --- so help me God."
    (At his swearing in - - at this point, Abraham Lincoln "kissed" the Bible.) -- And 6 yrs ago, OUR President Obama used Abe Lincoln's Bible for taking his oath.

    Ef, there is nothing in the constitution that requires the president-elect to put his hand on a bible.

    "Under God" was added during the height of the red scare of the fifties.

    Keith Ellison used a q'uran. There are atheists, iirc, in congress. They should not have to mention "God" at all especially since it is not required.

    For a Christian nation or a nation with a christian foundation God and the christ are strangely missing from the founding documents.
    Lonely, your last line does not make sense; When this nation was "founded" ( Had a name and borders) it needed "documents" like the Constitution as well the declaration of Independance, which does mention some "god" things. Before that time it was more or less an open border "colony" following "laws" of the occupying countries, like England, France, Dutch, Mexican. Most of the religious aspects floated to the "top" here because of that certain fanatic weird religions were thrown out of Europe and departed to the America's, like the Mormons, Pensylvania Dutch, Amish,Orthodox ( Russion/Greeks) and many other groups. That is the main reason you have here a thousand or more different churches with different names, because they themselves don't know what they are doing.
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    L.A. Citizen Wrote:
    pgr Wrote: Dutch, are you telling me "Jesus doesn't love me"?
    PGR,

    Jesus loves you so much he's appointed AMC as your spiritual advisor. You sir have won the lottery. Your own personal guide, A navigator on your first class ticket to sit with the Big guy. You sir have found the Golden ticket to the choclate factory.
    Damn, I'm sorry I always confuse Willy Wonka with God......but you get it. You've been chosen. Think of yourself as the John Smith of today.
    Okay, Jesus and Love. I don't mean to get off topic but I found this to be funny.
    I was on vacation at the Outer Banks of North Carolina a couple of years ago. At a gift shop I found a T shirt that I loved and bought.
    It said "Jesus loves you.......but I'm his favorite". I'm not trying to be controversial but I thought the message was funny compared to those who take it all
    far too seriously.
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    Tony Johnson Wrote:
    L.A. Citizen Wrote:
    pgr Wrote: Dutch, are you telling me "Jesus doesn't love me"?
    PGR,

    Jesus loves you so much he's appointed AMC as your spiritual advisor. You sir have won the lottery. Your own personal guide, A navigator on your first class ticket to sit with the Big guy. You sir have found the Golden ticket to the choclate factory.
    Damn, I'm sorry I always confuse Willy Wonka with God......but you get it. You've been chosen. Think of yourself as the John Smith of today.
    Okay, Jesus and Love. I don't mean to get off topic but I found this to be funny.
    I was on vacation at the Outer Banks of North Carolina a couple of years ago. At a gift shop I found a T shirt that I loved and bought.
    It said "Jesus loves you.......but I'm his favorite". I'm not trying to be controversial but I thought the message was funny compared to those who take it all
    far too seriously.
    By the way, right now there is a huge fight going on in the Catholic Vatican; the Pope wants reforms and stop the corruption and "old rules etc" which does not fit modern times; the whole bunch of cardinals object etc. I guess in this case "jesus" does not love them any more either; so I wonder about the future of these snake oil salesman. The product is stale and stinks.
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    If they could still get people to believe in talking serpants, seperating oceans, walking staffs becoming snakes, and gambling deities.......the Catholic Church will be just fine. I've heard of people re-inventing themselves....but damn, with all that magic the sky's the limit.
    If I was a cardinal the only thing I'd be discussing is where to spend all that money......
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    L.A. Citizen Wrote: If they could still get people to believe in talking serpants, seperating oceans, walking staffs becoming snakes, and gambling deities.......the Catholic Church will be just fine. I've heard of people re-inventing themselves....but damn, with all that magic the sky's the limit.
    If I was a cardinal the only thing I'd be discussing is where to spend all that money......
    May be you should ask AMC what currency they use "up there" ; I guess in "hell" it should be "fire proof" If I was a "god" I would raise taxes as "hell" and built a huge villa on Jupiter and import my swimming pool water from a tiny minuscule planet called earth..
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    Dutch Wrote:
    lonely bird Wrote:
    [url=https://www.democratichub.com/user/71251.aspx">eternal flame[/url] Wrote: You guys must be clairvoyant or something. I was just finishing my 3rd chocolate out of my Russell Stover's "Assorted Creams" -- just this minute. Well, it beats having to cook supper. (ha) Just a quickie thought about "religion" & "U.S. Government" -- being intermingled. The Founders did NOT want a Theocracy, and they did not advocate for one religion & "one only" -- but they did believe that Religion is the foundation of morals & principles of ethical behavior. We have now carried on this belief, so our currency is engraved IN GOD WE TRUST, and our Pledge of Allegiance says: "one nation under God," And when our US President is taking his Oath of Office, (with his hand on the Bible) -- he says "I swear to preserve, protect & defend the Constitution" --- so help me God."
    (At his swearing in - - at this point, Abraham Lincoln "kissed" the Bible.) -- And 6 yrs ago, OUR President Obama used Abe Lincoln's Bible for taking his oath.

    Ef, there is nothing in the constitution that requires the president-elect to put his hand on a bible.

    "Under God" was added during the height of the red scare of the fifties.

    Keith Ellison used a q'uran. There are atheists, iirc, in congress. They should not have to mention "God" at all especially since it is not required.

    For a Christian nation or a nation with a christian foundation God and the christ are strangely missing from the founding documents.
    Lonely, your last line does not make sense; When this nation was "founded" ( Had a name and borders) it needed "documents" like the Constitution as well the declaration of Independance, which does mention some "god" things. Before that time it was more or less an open border "colony" following "laws" of the occupying countries, like England, France, Dutch, Mexican. Most of the religious aspects floated to the "top" here because of that certain fanatic weird religions were thrown out of Europe and departed to the America's, like the Mormons, Pensylvania Dutch, Amish,Orthodox ( Russion/Greeks) and many other groups. That is the main reason you have here a thousand or more different churches with different names, because they themselves don't know what they are doing.
    the only mention of "god" isn't "god" at all. the phrase 'by their creator" which can most certainly be taken as deist as opposed to christian. beyond that the christ is not mentioned nor is religion nor is christianity. and even the deist phrase "their creator" appears not in the constitution. the constitution is entirely godless.

    as for the laws of the occupying countries they were null and void with the creation of the united states and therefore any state religions were irrelevant. but you make an excellent point in that the separation has allowed religions of many various stripes to thrive for good or ill.