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Should Bush be tried for his war crimes?

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    Bush's father, Bush #1, was the head of the CIA before becoming a politician. They know this game.
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    Not to hurt anyone's feelings, but if the USA prosecuted the Japanese after WW 2 ended for, among other thing, waterboarding, why shouldn't Bush be prosecuted for the same war crimes?  And, of course, Cheney.  They both broke the Geneva Convention by that action and by the actions of isolating the terrorists from everything else.  If they are combatants, the detainees are POWs subject to Geneva Convention safe guards..
      If not, then we are subjecting them to cruel and unusual punishments.  
      The Republican party has turned the nation into a country of cowards.  The reason I say that is, if the terrorist are not combatants, they are criminals and should be tried in the state they committed the crimes.  Notice that there has only been one sucessfully tried and punished...oh, wait, h was let go by the military, wasn't he?  Could it be that the military has more safe guards than civil courts?
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    Veronica:


    The general consensus seems to be the George W. should not be charged for war crimes, and I agree that that's probably the best solution, even though I believe that we should never have gone into Iraq, especially without the support of our allies.

    I don't believe that Bush is an especially intelligent man, and it's abslutely certain that he got bad advice from his advisors. However, since Gerald Ford forgave Richard Nxon for his crimes related to Watergate, it would be very difficult to hold him culpable.

    Your video on the Wall Street protestors was very disturbing, and should be more widespread. Interestingly enough, there was a video on the same YouTube page depicting  Tim Ryan of Ohio talking about the Iraq war, which you can see below:

    www.youtube.com/watch?v=wWNMzMjXLJs&feature=related

    Both Tim Ryan and John Boehner are from Ohio. If justice is served, Tim Ryan will get re=elected, and chief obstructionist John Boehner won't.

    en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tim_Ryan_%28politician%29
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    Yes, I do believe he should be tried for his crimes while in office.

      Also his father who killed three thousand Panamanians when he went after Noriega, should dance right along with him.

    A crime is a crime no matter who commits it. Bush also invaded our homes and created the Home land security who has been committing crimes against American citizens.

    George Bush by acting on his won declared war and caused many many of our young children to be killed--Thousand died, another 30 thousand suffered injuries and are now amputees and another 60 thousand are suffering brain damage and getting little or no help for their injuries, and add this how he took our tax dollars and gave it away to the rich failing companies who ruined our economy by putting millions of Americans out of work.

    We need to set an example for politicians like Bush, Nixon,New't Gingrich, and such crooks that they cannot violate the laws of America and their oath of office. What good is it to have a constitution if we are not going to abide by it. Our U.S. Constitution was written to protect the people from  political abuse and we are not doing it.

    The protection of the people can only come in the form of prosecuting the political gangsters who we permit to be above the law. How quick are we to arrest an unemployed  young woman for prostitution but we can't arrest those that  steal billions of our tax dollars and kill people?

    Yes, bring Bush to trial for violating his oath of office to up-hold the United States Constitution.
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    I think Bush started the drones. Drones are worse than waterboarding. Innocent people are killed. Unfortunately, the drone murders did not stop with President Obama, which is a big surprise. I thought he would get us out of all the wars and stop all the killing. I can't understand why he keeps using the drones. It seems like we use them more now than his first year.

    Why are we in all these foreign countries after 4 years? He had 2 years with the House and Senate in Democrat hands. I kept expecting President Obama, Senator Reid and Speaker Pelosi to make big foreign policy changes but they didn't. Opportunity lost.
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    pipepicker Wrote: I think Bush started the drones. Drones are worse than waterboarding. Innocent people are killed. Unfortunately, the drone murders did not stop with President Obama, which is a big surprise. I thought he would get us out of all the wars and stop all the killing. I can't understand why he keeps using the drones. It seems like we use them more now than his first year.

    Why are we in all these foreign countries after 4 years? He had 2 years with the House and Senate in Democrat hands. I kept expecting President Obama, Senator Reid and Speaker Pelosi to make big foreign policy changes but they didn't. Opportunity lost.
    Pipepicker you sum up my feelings exactly when you say..."Unfortunately, the drone murders did not stop with President Obama, which is a big surprise. I thought he would get us out of all the wars and stop all the killing"...

    And I STILL don't know why he escalated the war in Afghanistan???

    What in the world has America accomplished by staying in these useless wars which are morally and financially bankrupting this country?
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    jamesn Wrote:
    pipepicker Wrote: I think Bush started the drones. Drones are worse than waterboarding. Innocent people are killed. Unfortunately, the drone murders did not stop with President Obama, which is a big surprise. I thought he would get us out of all the wars and stop all the killing. I can't understand why he keeps using the drones. It seems like we use them more now than his first year.

    Why are we in all these foreign countries after 4 years? He had 2 years with the House and Senate in Democrat hands. I kept expecting President Obama, Senator Reid and Speaker Pelosi to make big foreign policy changes but they didn't. Opportunity lost.
    Pipepicker you sum up my feelings exactly when you say..."Unfortunately, the drone murders did not stop with President Obama, which is a big surprise. I thought he would get us out of all the wars and stop all the killing"...

    And I STILL don't know why he escalated the war in Afghanistan???

    What in the world has America accomplished by staying in these useless wars which are morally and financially bankrupting this country?
    Sure, haven't you noticed that we can"afford" to continue in Afghanistan without the blink of an eye; use our drones day and night all over the globe, buy some more F35's at $100 million or more per pop, but we can not even afford air traffic controllers to keep flying on time and to keep our airspace safe? Let alone to lay of hundreds of teachers etc. But just on this news here, a university has a by the government paid "grow" house and gives the "joints" to four patients (300 joints per month) the bill for this "experiment" is half a million per year. Nice going; what other ridiculous expenditure is there; how many more bridges to no-where?
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    jamesn, do you think the drones are worse than waterboarding? A handful of people were waterboarded. Those people will likely die of natural causes. Hundreds of people have died from drones, including a lot of innocents. At least the waterboarding was for intel.
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    Dutch, there is no logic in how the government spends our money.
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    pipepicker Wrote: Dutch, there is no logic in how the government spends our money.
    Yes, however it is kind of strange that we just sit back and accept such; if we would run our own household this way we would be broke all the time and have a continuous war with anyone in town. ( we've got at least enough private guns to do that, the same as the government but they enjoy that fun worldwide.)
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    Yes GWB should be tried. Previous to the Iraq invasion, one expert asked: What doe's Iraq have to do with 9/11 ? He answered: nothing, but who cares. He was intent on a war that he thought he could easily win, and to finish the job not completed by his father. We're approaching the 10 year anniversary of GWB claiming victory and mission accomplished in Iraq. That was an idiotic moment. Try his ass to stop future politicians from casually entering wars, wasting money, risking American lives, and making us look bad to te rest of the world.
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    Dutch of course you are right we can not afford to be in Afghanistan, we could not afford it from day one, but that hasn't stopped us in the past, has it? We cannot afford a LOT of what our government does, but as long as China is stupid enough to keep loaning us money we will keep borrowing and spending. Our Congress is as hooked on spending as a drug addict is on his drugs.

    Pipepicker drones ARE worse than waterboarding because one result is discomfort and the other result is sometimes death of innocents. Now the argument is that drone strikes are an act of war and war always produces innocent casualities. That's a question for the lawyers, but for me I don't see how the drone strikes are legal if we do not have the government's permission for them. Does Pakistan give us permission, behind closed doors maybe, for the strikes? Yemen?

    But drones are NOT going away, they are a growth industry for the military and civilian users.