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Should Wind Power be Government Supported or Private Supported

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    With the recent change of the guards, a question has arrisen as to who should develop and encourage the new emerging green energy of wind power. The democrats were willing to help wind power along and now the republicans seem to be leaving it completely to the private sector.  This seems to be happening in the form of wind projects losing funding where other areas such as coal will be gaining ground. This is happening because the republicans are looking at the size of the companies and the funding is being switched over to job creation.  

    This is another area that I am torn on. Obviously, job creation is good for the current economy. But is not encouraging wind power to cut down on the cost of energy important too?
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    We've long since come to accept the fact that Trump frequently does not make any sense when he talks. This is what he said about wind power recently, in front of a pro-Trump youth group.

    "We’ll have an economy based on wind. I never understood wind. You know, I know windmills very much. I’ve studied it better than anybody. I know it’s very expensive. They’re made in China and Germany mostly — very few made here, almost none. But they’re manufactured tremendous — if you’re into this — tremendous fumes. Gases are spewing into the atmosphere. You know we have a world, right? So the world is tiny compared to the universe. So tremendous, tremendous amount of fumes and everything. You talk about the carbon footprint — fumes are spewing into the air. Right? Spewing. Whether it’s in China, Germany, it’s going into the air. It’s our air, their air, everything — right? So they make these things and then they put them up."

    About a decade ago, Trump bought a golf course in Scotland only to learn that an offshore wind farm was planned nearby. He worried this would hurt views from his course, so he launched a scorched-earth campaign to block the installation.

    It earned him enormous enmity in the area. One prominent local opponent was identified as Scotsman of the year by Glenfiddich Scotch. Trump subsequently banned Glenfiddich from his properties

    Naturally, Trump sued to prevent the erection of the wind farm. Fortunately, he lost the lawsuit, and the Trump organization was ordered to pay $290,000 in legal fees. The 11-turbine wind farm in Aberdeen Bay began operating last summer and is clearly visible from the fairways and greens of the Trump International Golf Links, Scotland. (This is the resort, by the way, that is close to the airport where our military planes are refueling)

    The Scottish Government has achieved its target of generating 50% of Scotland's electricity from renewable energy by 2015, and is hoping to achieve 100% by 2020, which was raised from 50% in September 2010. The majority of this is likely to come from wind power

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2019/12/23/what-trump-was-talking-about-his-baffling-rant-about-wind-energy/

    If I get any money for Christmas, guess what I'm going to buy?

    Yep, a bottle of Glenfiddich.

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    I guess people here elected the biggest idiot they could find. Don't forget the Chinese had windmills way before the Dutch, who built those already in 1500 and got famous from it. The new "slow moving" mills nowadays don't kill birds, nor pollute. Coal pollutes and ruins every lung there is. But yeah our brain dead leader knows it all and pollutes the brains of his followers, who are then also more brain dead than he is. Like they say in Dutch: "Die heeft een klap van de malle molen gehad" ( He probably got hit by the blade of an "crazy" (Dutch) windmill); were the blades are very low and you better watch out when you step out of the front door)

    Merry X-Mas, I hope you enjoy the sack of "coal" as an present from Trump.

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    Trump has made several incoherent messages over his tenure as president, and they make good comedy for the late night talk shows. Trump is an absolute embarrassment to many Americans but not his loyal base who cannot see the stupidity of his remarks. Like Obama said: "pride in ignorance".
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    Re: windmills being made here. There is a small company called GE Renewables and several other companies involved in making windmills/windmill parts in the U.S.
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    lonely bird Wrote: Re: windmills being made here. There is a small company called GE Renewables and several other companies involved in making windmills/windmill parts in the U.S.

    This production does not create any more pollution than building anything else made from high strength carbon fiber/or glass fiber as done for aircraft and high performance cars, ships and military equipment.

    The biggest pollution in this country is caused by Trump himself; he pollutes the "airwaves" every day.

    How does he dare to "pollute" these kids with his "mentally retarded" speeches as well.

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    Dutch Wrote:

    I guess people here elected the biggest idiot they could find. Don't forget the Chinese had windmills way before the Dutch, who built those already in 1500 and got famous from it. The new "slow moving" mills nowadays don't kill birds, nor pollute. Coal pollutes and ruins every lung there is. But yeah our brain dead leader knows it all and pollutes the brains of his followers, who are then also more brain dead than he is. Like they say in Dutch: "Die heeft een klap van de malle molen gehad" ( He probably got hit by the blade of an "crazy" (Dutch) windmill); were the blades are very low and you better watch out when you step out of the front door)

    Merry X-Mas, I hope you enjoy the sack of "coal" as an present from Trump.

    Not that most of them care about birds, but Conservatives love to bring up the danger windmills pose, for political purposes. but, as you said, that problem has now been solved.

    We desperately need to end the liberation of carbon into the atmosphere through the burning of fossil fuels. Not only internal and external combustion release dangerous particulates but is the main cause of global warming. The second worse contributor to global warming is the release of methane by livestock raised for human consumption.

    Until nuclear fusion (not fission) becomes commercially viable, the way to reduce carbon emissions from the burning of fossil fuels, is all sources of renewable energy:--- Solar, Wind, Geothermal and the various forms of naturally moving water, like tidal and moving streams of all types.

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    The global coronavirus shutdowns have resulted in remarkable improvements in air quality over major cities worldwide. It's a yardstick for the future if we can ever shed ourselves from fossil fuels.

    People: Skies Are Clearer and Global Pollution Is Down Because of COVID-19 — But Can We Sustain It?

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    To her credit, Kristen Welker made climate change one of the six topics in last night's debate. As usual, Trump sprouted a bunch of nonsense, and Biden got an opportunity to make a few positive comments about clean energy.

    Although clean energy is thought to be a topic near and dear to the Democrats, Republicans are not immune to its obvious benefits, and a tiny town in red state Kansas proves the wisdom of clean energy, since 100% of the power in town comes from windmills.

    A wind-swept farming community in southwestern Kansas, Greensburg rebuilt “green” after an EF5 tornado — the most violent — barreled through at more than 200 miles per hour and nearly wiped it off the map in 2007.

    A decade later, Greensburg draws 100 percent of its electricity from a wind farm, making it one of a handful of cities in the United States to be powered solely by renewable energy. It now has an energy-efficient school, a medical center, city hall, library and commons, museum and other buildings that save more than $200,000 a year in fuel and electricity costs, according to one federal estimate. The city saves thousands of gallons of water with low-flow toilets and drought-resistance landscaping and, in the evening, its streets glow from LED lighting.

    It’s exactly the kind of community Democratic presidential candidate Joe Biden envisions when he talks about the need to conserve energy and transition away from fossil fuels towards wind, solar and other sources that do not emit the greenhouse gases driving climate change. President Trump has dismissed global warming and disparaged wind turbines as well as LED lighting and other forms of energy conservation.

    Greensburg is no liberal bastion. It sits in Kiowa County, where Trump handily beat Hillary Clinton in 2016, carrying 83 percent of the vote.

    By the end of 2007, Greensburg became the first city in the country to require all municipal buildings over 4,000 square feet to be certified LEED (Leadership in Energy and Environmental Design) platinum by the U.S. Green Building Council, a nonprofit organization. That means the buildings meet certain standards for saving energy, reducing the greenhouse gas emissions that are linked to global warming.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/climate-solutions/2020/10/22/greensburg-kansas-wind-power-carbon-emissions/?arc404=true

    The top five states according to percentage of generation by wind in 2019 were:[54]

    • Iowa (41.7%)
    • Kansas (36.4%)
    • Oklahoma (31.7%)
    • North Dakota (25.8%)
    • South Dakota (24.4%)

    Historically, Kansas is one of our windiest states, but windmill farms can also work in states that AREN'T as windy. California, for example, is one of the LEAST windy states, but is has three of the largest windmill farms in the country:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wind_power_in_the_United_States#:~:text=The%20state%20generating%20the%20highest%20percentage%20of%20energy,Power%20is%20the%20largest%20domestic%20wind%20turbine%20manufacturer.

    Fittingly, Washington D.C is the windiest location in the country, since it houses the largest number of windbags.

    http://www.usa.com/rank/us--average-wind-speed--state-rank.htm