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  • that guy in AZ
    06-19-2021 09:06:32 AM
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    A Missouri man pleaded guilty on Thursday to charges that he had threatened to lynch a Black congressman the day after the Jan. 6 siege at the U.S. Capitol and a Jewish congressman in 2019, court records show.

    The man, Kenneth R. Hubert, 63, Marionville, Mo., was arrested in March after, prosecutors said, he had directed the threats at Representatives Emanuel Cleaver II of Missouri and Steve Cohen of Tennessee, both Democrats.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2021/06/18/us/kenneth-hubert-cleaver-cohen-capitol-riot.html?action=click&module=In%20Other%20News&pgtype=Homepage

  • that guy in AZ
    06-19-2021 10:13:50 AM
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    A Missouri man pleaded guilty on Thursday to charges that he had threatened to lynch a Black congressman the day after the Jan. 6 siege at the U.S. Capitol and a Jewish congressman in 2019, court records show.

    The man, Kenneth R. Hubert, 63, Marionville, Mo., was arrested in March after, prosecutors said, he had directed the threats at Representatives Emanuel Cleaver II of Missouri and Steve Cohen of Tennessee, both Democrats.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2021/06/18/us/kenneth-hubert-cleaver-cohen-capitol-riot.html?action=click&module=In%20Other%20News&pgtype=Homepage

  • Dockadams
    06-21-2021 07:09:46 AM
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    CBS's 60 minutes segment last evening putting a small ray of light on those "oath-keepers", claiming that they're not responsible for storming or going along with taking over the capital building and grounds, they had nothing to do with that. Yeah, right.
  • that guy in AZ
    06-27-2021 09:55:07 AM
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    Michigan Congressman Gary Peters, chairman of the Senate Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs Committee, took over what many have considered a second-tier panel, but now is tasked with investigating the Jan. 6 attack on the Capitol. Issues such as cybersecurity and ransomware once seemed esoteric, but they now hit home after attacks that halted the supply chains for gasoline and meatpacking.

    And Peters is, slowly but surely, building bipartisan support for an overhaul of the U.S. Postal Service after a fall and winter of mail delays that drew vast public outrage.

    All that comes as he has settled into the sharply partisan role of chairing the Democratic Senatorial Campaign Committee (DSCC).

    The best line of attack Democrats have is the $1.9 trillion American Rescue Plan, which Peters credits for helping with an economic recovery and the reopening following pandemic shutdowns.

    “Not one Republican voted for that plan,” he said. “We’re going to remind folks about that, from now until election time.”

    But he still has to wear that bipartisan hat in his other full-time job across the street in the Capitol, running a powerful committee. Another hearing is on tap regarding domestic extremist groups, a key theme related to the Jan. 6 attack.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/powerpost/gary-peters/2021/06/26/a4a26b22-d5d6-11eb-a53a-3b5450fdca7a_story.html

  • that guy in AZ
    06-30-2021 10:09:19 AM
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    It’s difficult to argue your client’s innocence in court when millions of people have seen photos of him blatantly committing the crime with a giant smile on his face. That’s the conundrum facing the poor, unfortunate attorney of Mitchell Todd Gardner II, the 500th person in America to be arrested for his role in the Capitol riots on January 6, 2021.

    Gardner is not only suspected of having participated in the violence and destruction of the mob on Jan. 6, but of being a ringleader, which could make a significant difference in what charges he will eventually face and the sentencing that may come with it.

    https://bipartisanreport.com/2021/06/29/another-trump-obsessed-goon-arrested-in-florida-for-insurrection/

  • that guy in AZ
    07-15-2021 11:18:54 AM
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    Since leaving office, Trump has come under increasing scrutiny from a number of sources, including the indictments in New York of both Alan Weissenberg and the Trump Organization. If the last six months had a theme song, it would be the soundtrack from the "Beverly Hills Cop" in 1984:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uZD8HKVKneI

    It was announced yesterday that the first meeting of Nancy Pelosi's committee to investigate the January 6 insurrection will meet publicly for the first time on July 27.

    Right on cue, it was announced this morning that Trump and Kevin McCarthy will be meeting at his golf course in New Jersey.

    House GOP Leader Kevin McCarthy is expected to meet with former President Donald Trump on Thursday, as the California Republican is considering which members of his conference to appoint to a special committee tasked with investigating the deadly January 6 riot at the US Capitol.

    McCarthy's trip to Bedminster also coincides with a series of new revelations this week surrounding Trump's final days in office that describe the former President's increasingly defiant and belligerent behavior in refusing to concede his 2020 election loss.

    McCarthy himself could be emerge as a key figure in the committee's investigation. The chairman, Rep. Bennie Thompson, has not ruled out calling McCarthy before the committee to discuss the phone call he made to Trump as rioters stormed the Capitol begging the then-President to tell his supporters to go home.

    Indeed, the heat is on.

    https://www.cnn.com/2021/07/15/politics/donald-trump-kevin-mccarthy-meeting/index.html

  • that guy in AZ
    07-15-2021 04:03:00 PM
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    The Washington Post published an excerpt from "I alone can fix it" this morning.

    This should be all the proof you need to lock up Trump for a long time.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2021/07/15/jan-6-i-alone-can-fix-it-book-excerpt/


  • that guy in AZ
    07-17-2021 09:26:51 AM
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    Military officials warned on Friday that the National Guard will be forced to make drastic cuts starting next month if Congress does not reimburse expenses incurred while defending the U.S. Capitol after the Jan. 6 insurrection.

    Training exercises and drill weekends will probably be canceled and thousands of full-time employees put on furlough, Guard leaders told reporters. Aircraft will be grounded and maintenance delayed, they warned. In effect, any account that Guard units drained to float the more than $520 million security mission will be a potential area for cuts, risking their ability to respond to the next domestic emergency that arises.

    The mobilization of more than 25,000 Guard troops to protect the Capitol lasted nearly five months. Both Democrats and Republicans agree that the costs they incurred are important to repay.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/capitol-security-national-guard/2021/07/16/2e34d9a0-e672-11eb-8aa5-5662858b696e_story.html

    Donald Trump literally does not care that his incompetence caused the unnecessary deaths of 200,000 people (out of a total of over 600,000) nor does he care that his words on January 6 caused the government to spend half a billion defending the capital.

    Lock him up!

  • Dutch
    07-18-2021 04:54:29 PM
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    Looking at all of this, then I've come to the conclusion that this country is ungovernable. No one seems to have brains. Doing crazy things always cost money. Just let the billionaires loose and don't have them pay any taxes; that will work to get infrastructure done. I guess everyone lost its mind in this crooked crazy government consisting of "kindergarten." qualities.

    Just let Qonan and other idiots determine the future here. Brains are optional.

    How was it possible to give an idiot as Trump the "reigns" of this country; he "collected plenty" but the whole country has become an total mess because he "milked" the awful outdated system here and still gets paid even now etc. for his greedy way of life, instead of being in jail. What an dumb ass country!

  • wwjd
    07-19-2021 03:45:40 AM
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    that guy in AZ Wrote:

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/capitol-security-national-guard/2021/07/16/2e34d9a0-e672-11eb-8aa5-5662858b696e_story.html

    Donald Trump literally does not care that his incompetence caused the unnecessary deaths of 200,000 people (out of a total of over 600,000) nor does he care that his words on January 6 caused the government to spend half a billion defending the capital.

    Lock him up!

    Realistically the best justice we can hope for is that Donald Trump suffers a very long and painful decline in health between now and when he dies. I would like to see him suffer from Alzheimer's or some other serious form of dementia, and there is an above-average chance he will because his father had dementia in the last decade of his life. Let's hope there are future news reports of Donald Trump running nude around the streets of Florida yelling "Witch Hunt, Witch Hunt, the Fake News is after me" followed by the Trump family and US Secret Service chasing behind him.... That would be justice for me.

    It's unlikely Trump will be ever be legally convicted of state or federal crimes no matter what he has done. As Donald Trump has stated himself, he literally could kill someone in public for no reason at all, or order someone to be killed, and the legal system would find it hard to convict him, or even try. The political reality is that $10s of millions of Republican money would be spent to do whatever is necessary to keep him from being convicted, and it would take 5+ years of effort. But even if he were convicted of a crime, he would be immediately pardoned by a Republican president or a Republican Gov. At the very least, a Republican state governor (pick a Republican state) would simply state months in advance: "If Donald Trump is ever convicted in my state, he will get an immediate pardon the moment a conviction is announced, they won't even have time to put him in handcuffs before he is granted a full pardon. I don't care what he has done, or threatened to do in the future, he'll always be a free man in this state".... Such an advanced political statement would freeze prosecutors from pursuing crimes related to Donald Trump no matter what he had done.

  • TJ
    07-19-2021 09:51:57 PM
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    The first felony sentence was given today. It was approx. 8 months in jail. Perhaps I am delusional but I think they're all going to get soft penalties in the name of bringing a divided country together. That too makes me crazy. If you didn't cause the damage... You shouldn't be given the task of correcting it. Be soft on the Republican base and see how they feel about you then. They will hate every atom of your being because they don't think, they hate with faithful allegiance. The fool carrying the vile Confederate flag around could have gotten 10 years in jail and I wouldn't have lost one moment of sleep.

    Responsibility for your actions and words along with accountability should be important and should be untouched by political spin.

    Jan 6 was a pathetic act by a spoiled brat who refused to accept that he wasn't the country's first choice. We shouldn't hide or downplay the importance of the crazy actions by loyal followers. It was despicable.

  • wwjd
    07-20-2021 01:09:13 AM
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    TJ Wrote:

    The first felony sentence was given today. It was approx. 8 months in jail. Perhaps I am delusional but I think they're all going to get soft penalties in the name of bringing a divided country together. That too makes me crazy. If you didn't cause the damage... You shouldn't be given the task of correcting it. Be soft on the Republican base and see how they feel about you then. They will hate every atom of your being because they don't think, they hate with faithful allegiance. The fool carrying the vile Confederate flag around could have gotten 10 years in jail and I wouldn't have lost one moment of sleep.

    Responsibility for your actions and words along with accountability should be important and should be untouched by political spin.

    Jan 6 was a pathetic act by a spoiled brat who refused to accept that he wasn't the country's first choice. We shouldn't hide or downplay the importance of the crazy actions by loyal followers. It was despicable.

    "I only kicked the door once, then I turned around and left"
    or

    "I only hit the officer once, then I turned around and left"

    From a legal point of view, its hard to convict someone of a serious crime when their individual act is borderline trivial. But if you multiple that trivial act by several thousand, the outcome is extremely destructive and deathly. It's unlikely that no single person in the mob actually attempted to kill the police officers that died that day, each person simply struct the officers 1-2 times until the officers could not be saved. Each individual can truthfully claim: "I only kicked him, nobody dies from being kicked once"

    Donald Trump owns all that happened on 6\1. Without him, it never would have happened. He was the one that brought gasoline. He was the one that lit the match. And he was the one who watched it burn hoping the result would allow him to stay in office. But thankfully Donald Trump is a first-class F-CKUP, that it failed to accomplish his objective. It failed because of him, which means we got lucky. If he has been someone with the skills and intelligence of Puttin, the insurrection on 6/1/21 would not have failed.

  • that guy in AZ
    07-21-2021 11:30:24 AM
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    With over 500 charged, 16,000 hours of footage, 6,000 subpoenas, 2,000 phones, and 300,000 tips, Justice is pushing capitol riot trials to 2022

    As a result, only a small number of suspects have pleaded guilty — about 20 out of more than 500 charged so far.

    Organizing and transferring the mountain of data in what the Justice Department calls the largest criminal investigation in US history is expected to cost tens of millions of dollars, according to US officials. Prosecutors expect to hand over the majority of 16,000 hours of Capitol and police footage to defendants in August, and to start producing individually relevant returns from more than 6,000 grand jury subpoenas and more than 2,000 recovered smartphones, computers, and other devices by the fall.

    https://vozwire.com/with-over-500-charged-16000-hours-of-footage-6000-subpoenas-2000-phones-and-300000-tips-justice-is-pushing-capitol-riot-trials-to-2022/

  • that guy in AZ
    07-21-2021 03:16:51 PM
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    House Speaker Nancy Pelosi on Wednesday rejected two Republicans tapped by House GOP Leader Kevin McCarthy to sit on a committee investigating the Jan. 6 Capitol insurrection, a decision McCarthy denounced as "an egregious abuse of power."

    McCarthy said the GOP won't participate the investigation if Democrats won't accept the members he appointed.

    Pelosi cited the "integrity" of the probe in refusing to accept the appointments of Indiana Rep. Jim Banks, picked by McCarthy to be the top Republican on the panel, or Ohio Rep. Jim Jordan. Both are close allies of former President Donald Trump, whose supporters laid siege to the Capitol that day.

    "With respect for the integrity of the investigation, with an insistence on the truth and with concern about statements made and actions taken by these members, I must reject the recommendations of Representatives Banks and Jordan to the Select Committee," Pelosi said.

    "Unless Speaker Pelosi reverses course and seats all five Republican nominees, Republicans will not be party to their sham process and will instead pursue our own investigation of the facts," McCarthy said.

    Pelosi said in the statement that she had accepted McCarthy's three other picks — Illinois Rep. Rodney Davis, North Dakota Rep. Kelly Armstrong and Texas Rep. Troy Nehls. But McCarthy said that all or none would participate.

    The chairman of the panel, Mississippi Rep. Bennie Thompson, has said that the committee will have a quorum to conduct business whether GOP members are present or not.

    https://azdailysun.com/news/national/pelosi-moves-to-block-trump-allies-from-jan-6-committee/article_bc6d6a3d-ff97-59e3-9ce0-0977687f006a.html

  • that guy in AZ
    07-22-2021 08:44:07 AM
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    Former President Trump and House Minority Leader Kevin McCarthy will be part of the House inquiry into the Jan. 6 attack on the U.S. Capitol, said Democratic Rep. Bennie Thompson who is chairing the select committee investigating the deadly insurrection.

    “Nothing is off limits,” Thompson told The Guardian, adding that both Trump and McCarthy are among the key witnesses in the investigation, largely because McCarthy was on the phone with Trump when the attack was taking place.

    https://dailyboulder.com/key-witnesses-trump-and-mccarthy-could-be-dragged-to-testify-before-jan-6-panel/

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