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  • that guy in AZ
    05-26-2021 05:26:12 PM
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    If mama's not happy, then nobody's going to be happy.

    The mother of late Capitol Police Officer Brian Sicknick is requesting meetings with every Republican senator in an effort to get them to support establishing an independent commission to investigate the January 6th riots in the United States Capitol building.

    If I were her, I'd bring a taser to the meeting with Mitch McConnell.

    "Not having a January 6 Commission to look into exactly what occurred is a slap in the faces of all the officers who did their jobs that day," Gladys Sicknick tells Politico. "I suggest that all Congressmen and Senators who are against this Bill visit my son's grave in Arlington National Cemetery and, while there, think about what their hurtful decisions will do to those officers who will be there for them going forward."

    https://www.rawstory.com/brian-sicknick-mother/

  • Dutch
    05-27-2021 09:19:30 AM
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    Sorry there is no shame at all in the Trump Party; they only care for their wallet and their commitment to an "mafia boss".

    Even in the Netherlands they have an Communistic Party which is very "decent" compared to what is happening here. But yeah it is only an very small party being part of the about 10 different parties which are represented over there. Here with having two parties only which are miles apart and of which one party shits on the rules and decency, let alone lost all their marbles and brains, then you get an impossible situation as it is now. Of course the "GOP criminals" don't want to admit that their "great leader" instigated the insurrection at the Capitol. The republican party is not any better than the Hitler Jugent and "brownshirts" before WWII.

    All of this is the culmination of not having an solid government structure with multiple parties as well solid uniform laws for all the States here and "SOLID" oversight. All together it is just like a bunch of school kids, who fight with each other in lunch time.

  • that guy in AZ
    05-28-2021 11:31:57 AM
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    It's astonishing how far from reality the conservatives in this country have strayed.

    Kurt Schlicter is one of the regular columnists for Townhall.com.

    He published this gem this morning:

    "Okay, let’s say out loud what the regime doesn’t want said – there was no insurrection.

    At least not in Washington, D.C. Now, in places like Portland and Seattle, there were and are insurrections, actual ongoing occupations of actual territory by actual criminals where the government is expressly told it’s not in charge and to stay out. And, of course, the government tolerates those insurrections. It does so because the Democrats in charge – this nonsense never happens in Florida with DeSantis in charge – perceives the actual insurrectionists as political allies, so they do nothing. Some insurrections, it appears, are more insurrectiony than others.

    (You may remember that DeSantis just signed a bill that would not penalize drivers who drove their car into protestors )

    Despite the rending of garments and gnashing of teeth, the fracas on Capitol Hill was barely a brawl – what if they gave an armed insurrection and nobody showed up with arms? It certainly was not even close in damage, violence, or casualties to the routine BLM/Antifa rioting last year – rioting the Democrats tacitly supported.

    (Editors note: the January 6 insurrection cost at least $30 million in damages. The protest in Portland caused $2.3 million in damage)

    https://www.newsweek.com/portland-protesters-damage-cost-federal-buildings-1566821

    But these rioters were not allies of the elite, and the elite felt threatened, and so we’re now all supposed to accept – without bursting into laughter – that this was the worst thing in the history of ever.

    https://townhall.com/columnists/kurtschlichter/2021/05/27/insurrection-obsession-n2589969

    Schlicter was one of the speakers at the CPAC conference earlier this year.

    We should start calling this guy sphincter, because he certainly is an ass.

  • Dutch
    05-29-2021 08:44:34 AM
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    The votes made by the Trump Party in the Senate shows how far this country has sunk; sure January 6th never happened, it were just a bunch of decent tourists who handed out flowers.

    Sorry to say that this country is beyond repair, as I mentioned so many times. The "system" is really broken. Humpty Dumpty is all in pieces and no glue can fix it.

    What an country; where are the brains?

  • that guy in AZ
    05-29-2021 09:12:58 AM
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    Although the defeat of the commission was not surprising, what's maddening is that a number of members of the senate did not even bother to vote.

    One of those senators was my senator Kyrsten Sinema, who claims she would have voted yes.

    Although 6 Republicans voted FOR the commission, 9 of their fellow Republicans did not vote at all. Two Democrats did not vote either. The other senator was Patty Murray of Washington.

    I wrote to senator Sinemaaging this morning, and asked her to kill the filibuster.

    https://www.cnn.com/2021/05/28/politics/senators-didnt-vote-january-6-commission/index.html

    The next obvious step is for the Democrats to form their own commission. To a degree, that is precisely what happened with the Benghazi investigations. In all there were a total of TEN investigations - and six of those were led my Republican-controlled House committees.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Investigation_into_the_2012_Benghazi_attack

    The best solution would be a committee appointed by Nancy Pelosi, which would have subpoena power.

    Mr. Schumer and Speaker Nancy Pelosi are now planning their own committee investigations into the attack, how it was coordinated and why the government failed to prevent an assault that left several dead, the Capitol ransacked and those inside at risk.

    Ms. Pelosi could also set up a select committee focused solely on the attack, handing Democrats unilateral subpoena power and a much longer timeline to investigate whatever they want. Mr. Schumer seemingly endorsed the idea on Friday afternoon, saying that it was “better to investigate with a select committee than not investigate.”

    Progressives seized on Republicans’ opposition to the commission as new justification to press their case for invoking the so-called nuclear option to rewrite the filibuster rule and allow bills to pass on simple majority votes. Activists have pressed Democratic leaders to do so, and then skirt Republican opposition to enact pressing liberal priorities, like a sweeping voting rights measure, gun control legislation, legalization of undocumented immigrants and more.

    “If the Republicans can’t agree to an independent commission investigating the first armed insurrection at the Capitol in our nation’s history, then something is bad wrong,” said Senator Elizabeth Warren, Democrat of Massachusetts. “And that something is the filibuster.”

    https://www.nytimes.com/2021/05/28/us/politics/capitol-riot-commission-republicans.html?action=click&module=Top%20Stories&pgtype=Homepage

  • Dutch
    05-29-2021 12:13:38 PM
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    As long as our governing structure stays the way it is, then things will certainly not get any better. Since the individual States can do what they like , such as curtailing "elections' without Federal approval, that means that this country is absolutely uncontrollable from an "central" perspective. In other words we have 50 States who run their own show and the Federal Government is there only for the "window dressing". In the present situation related to "voting" as well "laws" the Fed's should have the oversight as well should approve/disapprove any "lone wolf" things created by the States. As a matter of fact it seems that Biden has no power at all over any of the States, as it looks right now. As they have in other countries (like provinces/departments) etc., they all have to comply with "standard" Federal rules and "systems" related to voting and laws. But yeah here, it is just like little school kids who make their own rules and laws. Sorry people, such system is bound to create "chaos" as is shown right now. No wonder that "fascism" is around the corner. And people here still believe this country is still number "one" in the world? Don't let me puke.

    Ever heard of the word "filibuster" in any other country? Only in America they invent these things.

  • that guy in AZ
    06-04-2021 08:26:49 AM
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    that guy in AZ Wrote:

    It's astonishing how far from reality the conservatives in this country have strayed.

    Kurt Schlicter is one of the regular columnists for Townhall.com.

    He published this gem this morning:

    "Okay, let’s say out loud what the regime doesn’t want said – there was no insurrection.

    At least not in Washington, D.C. Now, in places like Portland and Seattle, there were and are insurrections, actual ongoing occupations of actual territory by actual criminals where the government is expressly told it’s not in charge and to stay out. And, of course, the government tolerates those insurrections. It does so because the Democrats in charge – this nonsense never happens in Florida with DeSantis in charge – perceives the actual insurrectionists as political allies, so they do nothing. Some insurrections, it appears, are more insurrectiony than others.

    (You may remember that DeSantis just signed a bill that would not penalize drivers who drove their car into protestors )

    Despite the rending of garments and gnashing of teeth, the fracas on Capitol Hill was barely a brawl – what if they gave an armed insurrection and nobody showed up with arms? It certainly was not even close in damage, violence, or casualties to the routine BLM/Antifa rioting last year – rioting the Democrats tacitly supported.

    (Editors note: the January 6 insurrection cost at least $30 million in damages. The protest in Portland caused $2.3 million in damage)

    https://www.newsweek.com/portland-protesters-damage-cost-federal-buildings-1566821

    But these rioters were not allies of the elite, and the elite felt threatened, and so we’re now all supposed to accept – without bursting into laughter – that this was the worst thing in the history of ever.

    https://townhall.com/columnists/kurtschlichter/2021/05/27/insurrection-obsession-n2589969

    Schlicter was one of the speakers at the CPAC conference earlier this year.

    We should start calling this guy sphincter, because he certainly is an ass.

    The damage done by the January 6 insurrection was even higher than I previously reported.

    Direct damage to the capital itself was $1.5 million, which prosecutors are trying to recoup from the defendents.

    However, that is just the tip of the iceberg.

    The costs of the Capitol attack, however, go well beyond the $1.5 million estimate prosecutors cited this week. A $1.9 billion security funding bill passed by the House included $40 million for the Architect of the Capitol for direct attack-related costs, part of more than $730 million set aside to reimburse the National Guard and other agencies for expenses in responding to rioting that authorities said contributed to five deaths, assaults on 140 police officers and the evacuation of a joint session of Congress.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/legal-issues/capitol-riot-defendants-pay-damages-restitution/2021/06/03/74691812-c3ec-11eb-93f5-ee9558eecf4b_story.html


  • Dutch
    06-04-2021 09:12:04 AM
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    If it is only "money" don't worry; Trump will never pay for it. Don't let me laugh; who says that this won't happen again?

    As long as the "culprit" can have an luxury life in his castle or other properties and undermine our "certified" elections, which may lead to an "coup" or "civil" war, then "money" is the least of the worries. Just "print" some more!! Ha ha.

    La la land always will create "turmoil"; it can't consist without it. Trump will be sitting in the W.H. in August again according to his followers; so get the "red" carpet out of storage please. If I was Biden then I would make sure "the guy" is behind "bars" by that time. But I doubt it because Biden is too nice and Trump will walk right over him.

  • that guy in AZ
    06-12-2021 08:32:36 AM
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    Schmidt always says, "follow the money", but this morning's paper published a case where you can't follow the money:

    A dark money nonprofit established by an Arizona Republican donor to “fight back” against alleged “malicious, defamatory and fallacious” assertions involving three Republican lawmakers and their ties to the Jan. 6 Capitol riot has received significant, but undisclosed, support from small-dollar donors, its director said.

    The Guardian Defense Fund was created in the aftermath of the pro-Trump rampage to help U.S. Rep. Paul Gosar, R-Ariz., state Rep. Mark Finchem, R-Oro Valley, and former state Rep. Anthony Kern, R-Glendale, address assertions about their activities on that day.

    Unlike political parties and other political groups, the nonprofit social welfare organization formed on Feb. 3 does not have to disclose its financial backers and is only required to reveal limited information.

    If congress could somehow pass H.R. 1, it would eliminate groups like the Guardian Defense Fund..

    https://www.azcentral.com/story/news/politics/elections/2021/06/07/jan-6-legal-defense-fund-gosar-finchem-kern-raising-money/7591753002/?itm_medium=recirc&itm_source=taboola&itm_campaign=internal&itm_content=BelowHomepageFeed-FeedRedesign

  • Dutch
    06-13-2021 08:55:28 AM
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    All I can say; it is even worse than any "banana republic", at least they likely have an "dictator" who is in charge and will make sure such things don't get out of hand, unless the "dictator" can "profit" from it. But yeah here it is just "chaos" without anyone being in control, except the "crooks" here; they are allowed to roam freely and undermine anything which does not fit their way of life. Garland seems to me, to be an "book" person, but not an strong personality who closes his eyes for the "reality" around him. The way things are going here can't be fixed piecemeal; it is time that the Fed's dictate the States what their "limits" are in governing. If things keep going this way; then the results are known; "dictator" Trump is already waiting at the starting blocks to "take over" and no one even "blinks"
  • that guy in AZ
    06-15-2021 09:33:11 AM
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    Russian state TV has hailed as an “American patriot” the infamous Capitol riot suspect who was photographed gleefully sitting with his foot on a desk in the office of House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) the day of the Jan. 6 insurrection.

    Richard “Bigo” Barnett, 60, appeared in an interview that aired Sunday complaining about jail after his arrest on charges linked to the attempted overthrow of the presidential election, The Daily Beast first reported.

    The segment aired just days before President Joe Biden and Russian President Vladimir Putin are scheduled to meet for the first time in Geneva on Wednesday.

    Special correspondent Valentin Bogdanov of Russian TV channel Rossiya-1 interviewed Barnett, a self-described white nationalist from Arkansas, via FaceTime. He described Barnett as “colorful” — a word Putin has used to characterized Donald Trump. Bogdanov also falsely referred to the 2020 U.S. presidential election as “stolen,” a claim that has no basis in fact.

    Barnett has been charged with several crimes, including obstruction of an official proceeding, disorderly and disruptive conduct in a restricted building or grounds with a deadly or dangerous weapon (a stun gun), and theft of government property.

    He allegedly took a piece of Pelosi’s mail and left her a note, apparently calling her a “bitch,” though he misspelled the word.

    Richard Barnett shows off after breaching the Capitol and Nancy Pelosi's office.

    https://www.huffpost.com/entry/richard-barnett-russian-state-tv-patriot_n_60c7d345e4b07e543bbcf1cf?d_id=2287392

  • that guy in AZ
    06-16-2021 08:36:05 AM
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    HCR published another long and interesting column last night.

    This paragraph really jumped out at me:

    "Today, 21 House Republicans voted against awarding the Congressional Gold Medal, Congress’s highest award, to all the law enforcement officers who protected the Capitol on January 6. The measure passed with 406 lawmakers of both parties voting in favor. Republican Adam Kinzinger of Illinois said to those voting no: “How you can vote no to this is beyond me.”

    If you need further proof that the Republicans are nuts, consider this:

    Representative Glenn Grothman (R-WI) suggested that as many as 1000 of the people in the Capitol on January 6 were tourists who had wandered into the building inadvertently (the Capitol was closed to tourists because of the pandemic). Representative Paul Gosar (R-AZ) argued that the Capitol police officers were “lying in wait” for Ashli Babbitt, who was shot as she tried to break into a secure area. According to Gosar’s construction, Babbitt was “executed” by police. He demanded to know the name of the officer involved in the shooting.

    ********************************************

    In March, when an initial version of the legislation was brought to the House floor, a dozen Republicans voted against the measure. Many of those who voted “no” said they objected to the use of the term “insurrectionists” in the resolution.

    Those GOP lawmakers included Reps. Andy Biggs (Ariz.), Thomas Massie (Ky.), Andy Harris (Md.), Lance Gooden (Tex.), Matt Gaetz (Fla.), Marjorie Taylor Greene (Ga.), Louie Gohmert (Tex.), Michael Cloud (Tex.), Andrew S. Clyde (Ga.), Greg Steube (Fla.), Bob Good (Va.) and John Rose (Tenn.).

    (Biggs is the chair of the House Freedom Caucus)

    The House and Senate then remained in a standoff for three months over whether to honor all law enforcement who responded on Jan. 6 or to award the Congressional Gold Medal to one officer in particular, Capitol Police Officer Eugene Goodman, who single-handedly diverted an angry mob away from the Senate chamber.

    On Tuesday, Gooden, one of the 12 House Republicans who voted against the legislation in March, voted in favor of the new bill.

    But the number of opposing votes grew, with 10 other House Republicans switching their votes from “yes” to “no.”

    Those Republicans are Reps. Lauren Boebert (Colo.), Barry Moore (Ala.), Ralph Norman (S.C.), Matthew M. Rosendale (Mont.), Chip Roy (Tex.), Paul A. Gosar (Ariz.), Warren Davidson (Ohio), Scott Perry (Pa.), Jody Hice (Ga.) and Mary Miller (Ill.).

    Some of those who voted “no” on Tuesday said they objected to the use of the words “temple” or “insurrection” in the resolution.

    “I wouldn’t call it an insurrection,” Greene said, according to Politico.

    Some House Republicans, such as Clyde, have sought to recast the violent mob’s actions on Jan. 6 as little different from a “normal tourist visit” to the Capitol. Others have sought to play down that day’s events in different ways.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/21-house-republicans-vote-against-awarding-congressional-gold-medal-to-all-police-officers-who-responded-on-jan-6/2021/06/15/1fd17ac2-ce25-11eb-8cd2-4e95230cfac2_story.html

  • Dutch
    06-16-2021 09:12:37 AM
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    All of this show show far this country has sunk. Especially the GOP. Sorry to say, who misled the Capitol police about not having support enough to defend the Capitol. The National Guard should have been there with at least 4 water cannons parked in strategic places.

    Water cannons are used world wide , why not in this backwards country? I guess they just refuse to learn anything from other countries.

  • that guy in AZ
    06-16-2021 10:26:34 AM
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    Despite 12 separate pleas for immediate assistance, Michael Flynn's brother Charles delayed the deployment of the National Guard for nearly 5 hours.
  • Dutch
    06-17-2021 09:35:16 AM
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    It only shows that no one here is in "charge" it is just a bunch of "chaotic" idiots who run the show without solid oversight.

    Even if a person like Trump was in charge, then the FBI or CIA should have taken action, since they should have picked up the "signs" on the airwaves. It just enforces that the "system" here is an "molded" British clotted cream chaos.

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