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the 2020 Presidential election


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  • TJ
    11-21-2020 10:56:07 AM
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    The dysfunctional buffoon must acknowledge that he wasn't chosen. He's the Loser. He has no place.
  • that guy in AZ
    11-23-2020 07:15:15 AM
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    Concerned that President Trump’s refusal to accept the election results is hurting the country, more than 100 chief executives plan to ask the administration on Monday to immediately acknowledge Joseph R. Biden Jr. as the winner and begin the transition to a new administration.

    In a letter they plan to send Monday, business leaders will demand that Emily W. Murphy, head of the General Services Administration, issue a letter of ascertainment affirming that Mr. Biden and Vice President-elect Kamala Harris have won the election. Ms. Murphy has so far resisted calls to begin the normal transition planning, which includes providing resources and money to an incoming administration as it prepares to take control.

    The Friday evening executive call, which included a group of about a dozen business leaders, was preceded by a meeting of Democratic state attorneys general that took place on Thursday evening, in which participants discussed what they could do to ensure an orderly transition. In the wake of that, New York’s attorney general, Letitia James, was asked to approach business leaders in her jurisdiction about the possibility of pushing the stalled transition into motion.

    Among the topics that came up on the call, according to participants, was the idea of withholding support from Senators Kelly Loeffler and David Perdue, both Republicans, who are running for re-election in Georgia, until the presidential transition is underway.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2020/11/23/us/trump-biden-transition-business.html?action=click&module=Top%20Stories&pgtype=Homepage

  • Dutch
    11-23-2020 11:17:58 AM
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    The problem as I've said so many times is the structure of governing here. What is missing is the real "oversight" on Presidents and "departments". The weak thing is, right now that the "oversight" leaders can be "bought" or changed into "loyal" people.

    If you would have an solid oversight unit which can't be "bought" or "manipulated", then things may work, provided they get also the power (via Congress) to "fire" Presidents. Right now no one has that right. So an President has himself the "power" to "refuse to comply and nothing can be done because there is nothing "above" him to set him straight or fire him.

    Again something to fix in the Constitution.

  • wwjd
    11-24-2020 01:08:53 AM
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    Here is letter to Joe Biden was crafted to be legally hair splitting. No where in the letter does she refer to Joe Biden as "president elect". Thus in a court of law it theoretically could be still argued that there is no direct concession that Joe Biden won.

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    I suspect that she was informed she was about to named in legal documents to be filed in court as some type of co-conspirator for "Obstruction" and\or failing to do her job as required by law. And if she continued, there was a good chance she would be another Trump "Fall Guy" much like Michael Cohen and would end up in jail with Trump pointing his finger at her as a lone wolf that acted on her own. [Here is a fictional, but likely Trump statement] Trump: "Never met her, never spoke to her on the phone. I heard she worked for me somewhere doing something. But just look at her, does she look like someone I would want to talk to? I don't think so. If I did, I probably would have fired her"

  • that guy in AZ
    04-22-2021 08:56:23 AM
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    Despite the fact that 60 different courts in various states have verified that Joe Biden won the election, 52% of Republican voters still think that Trump won the 2020 election - and some of those people live in Arizona.

    https://www.forbes.com/sites/alisondurkee/2020/11/18/half-of-republicans-think-trump-rightfully-won-election-poll-finds/?sh=2dfd3cec49e1

    Although votes in Arizona have been recounted more than once, the goofy folks in the legislature have decided that they need ANOTHER audit, so they hired a firm called Cyber Ninjas to conduct the audit.

    However, there are a few problems here:

    1) Cyber Ninjas has virtually no experience in auditing elections

    • Cyber Ninjas’ CEO is an unapologetic supporter of Donald Trump’s election conspiracy theories.
    • The Senate is not providing the necessary funding or time to do a legitimate review of the votes.
    • Their plan includes sending people door-to-door to test the validity of irregular voter registration forms. Interrogating voters at their doorstep is not what you call a confidence builder

    One America News Network is the official broadcast team of the Senate audit.

    OANN is the network that in February aired “The Arizona Election Heist,” an “investigative” piece so chock full of invented facts and imagined conspiracies about how Joe Biden won the election.

    Among her other bombshells, OANN reporter Christina Bobb reported that 11,676 more ballots were counted than there are voters in Maricopa County.

    Here in the real world, 2,089,563 ballots were cast, or just over 80% of the county’s 2,595,272 registered voters.

    Bobb also is raising money to help pay for the Senate audit.

    https://www.azcentral.com/story/opinion/op-ed/laurieroberts/2021/04/21/oann-livestream-arizona-election-audit-absurd/7324889002/

  • Dutch
    04-22-2021 09:08:33 AM
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    Are they crazy over there? The elections are done and over with. Lets check if Bush won for a change, or Lincoln.

    It shows that this country rather can join some African country in their quest to get an idiot elected, may be an family member of Idi Amin. I'm amazed that only in America these things are possible, this must be la la land for sure.

    Can you imagine if Trump would have won, what the situation would be right now? I guess the virus would have spread as wildfire and our standing in the world would be like an shit heap. But at least Putin would be happy.

    Shaking my old tired head.

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