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40 years later, history repeats itself

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    All of you probably remember Jim Jones, but not enough people realize that he has been re-incarnated as Donald Trump.

    https://tohell-andback.blogspot.com/2018/11/forty-years-later-history-repeats-itself.html

    If you still don't think Trump followers belong to a cult, look no further that this week's crowd outside Walter Reed:

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-apps/imrs.php?src=https://arc-anglerfish-washpost-prod-washpost.s3.amazonaws.com/public/7LLBGUAGOMI6XBYZBXYVTUKHSQ.jpg&w=916

    Men with bullhorns walked around, calling for “eight more years,” praying to God, needling journalists and the handful of protesters across the street, at the intersection of the pike and South Wood Road. A spry older woman ran up and down the two-foot-wide median as “Eye of the Tiger” played on a portable speaker. She had a white Trump flag tied around her waist and a blue Trump flag aloft in her wriggling arms. Her purse swung into the path of BMWs and minivans whooshing by. “TRUMP FOREVER,” the woman on the median shrieked. “TRUMP FOREVER. TRUMP FOREVER.”

    The vigil at Walter Reed started popping Saturday night, after supporters trickled up from a Trump rally in downtown D.C. Gay Trump supporters said he has done more for gay people than any president; Black Trump supporters said he has done more for Black people than any president. Neither is true, but truth is not the point anymore. Belief is. On Saturday, Christians at the vigil prayed for Jesus to heal their highly favored president. Trump released a video on Twitter talking about “miracles coming down from God.” Trump family members and Fox News hosts described the president’s relentless virility, like he is some sort of mutant horse on a rabid race to serve the public. Online a commemorative “Donald J. Trump Defeats Covid” coin became available for preorder for $100; it ships Nov. 14, after Trump is perhaps defeated by something else.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/trump-supporters-walter-reed-rally/2020/10/04/b55dae9e-0675-11eb-859b-f9c27abe638d_story.html

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    Welcome to an "island" where the "nut heads" roam!! I hope people overseas read this; then they really start believing Jones stood up from the grave. I just wonder why an Pelosi and Schumer just negate all this crap and don't kick the idiot out and lock up all his supporters in an mental institute.( but yeah, our outdated laws prevents this.)Crying

    I'm totally flabbergasted at the people in this country; even in our community none of the Trump signs are taken away. So they must also belong to this crazy cult. Scary indeed.

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    A picture is worth a thousand words. The picture below confirms the fact that far too many of Trump's supporters actually belong to his cult:

    BETHESDA, MD - OCTOBER 04: Supporters of President Donald Trump gather outside of Walter Reed National Military Medical Center after the President was admitted for treatment of COVID-19 on October 4, 2020 in Bethesda, Maryland. The President announced via Twitter early Friday morning that he had tested positive. Numerous other prominent GOP figures and members of Congress have also tested positive in the last few days. (Photo by Samuel Corum/Getty Images)

    https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2020/10/5/1983692/-Trump-s-every-action-this-weekend-proves-his-fear-of-looking-weak-and-frail-to-the-deplorables?detail=emaildkre

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    A distraught supporter of President Donald Trump on Friday told right-wing talk radio show host Rush Limbaugh that he was willing to “die” for the president.

    The caller began by saying he would “try to hold myself together and not get emotional” before choking up and spilling his guts about how upset he was about the Republican Georgia secretary of state admitting that President-elect Joe Biden had won his state.

    “Trump and you are all we have left, Rush!” he said. “We’ve spent our lives voting for these people because they’re not [Democrats]. And we just can’t do it anymore! We’re tired of being stabbed in the back!”

    He then bitterly complained that there were almost no elected Republicans attending the “Million MAGA March” in Washington, D.C. two weeks ago, which he said showed that the party does not care about its voters.

    “No one stands for us, Rush!” he wailed. “Only you and Donald Trump! God forbid! What do we have left! I love my president! I am not a revolutionary, Rush, but I will die for my president! This man has given more to this country than anybody!”

    https://www.rawstory.com/2020/11/watch-distraught-trump-supporter-tells-rush-limbaugh-i-will-die-for-my-president/

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    Yes that is the problem if you don't have enough "mental institutions" to help these type of people. When is this population going to think or learn to think or learn to analyze what "life" is all about and what is true or what are lies.

    I've got the feeling that the schools here don't teach that, because also the teachers are likely FOX News watchers, so what do you teach the kids then? Here the same thing applies to all the people and even Presidents what do they watch to be indoctrinated with. Because of the "free speech" craziness here, then the "media" can be used as an "mind" changing tool, because the people here get the impression what comes out of the "boob tube" that such is true and have become too lazy to analyze things. Before in the old days when we had no radio and TV, people had to find out things for themselves, but nowadays you get bombarded by all kinds of media and it depends on what you tune into and absorb. The people here have no idea that these "tools" are used to "indoctrinate" for an certain purpose, either to make money of it or to get "power" over the masses. Because of its non-culture here and lazy "brains", it is difficult to stop; people here are very gullible and believe the church and what they push, so they also believe everything else because their brains are programmed that way since being an child.

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    The indoctrination begins at home at a very young age. The Jim Jones analogy at the beginning of this thread is a good one. People's minds are a hard thing to understand and I've been reading about them for a long time now...psychologists and other mental health experts weigh in.

    What is scary, of course, is the comparisons to El Duce and his black shirts. The black shirts of that era are not that different from the most rabid Trump supporters of this era. When the Limbaugh caller says he would die for Trump, it is no different than a black shirt carrying out Mussolini's mission.

    From Wikipedia: The Blackshirts were established as the Squadrismo in 1919 and consisted of many disgruntled former soldiers. It was given the task of leading fights against their bitter enemies – the Socialists. They may have numbered 200,000 by the time of Mussolini's March on Rome from 27 to 29 October 1922. In 1922 the squadristi were reorganized into the milizia and formed numerous bandiere, and on 1 February 1923 the Blackshirts became the Voluntary Militia for National Security (Milizia Volontaria per la Sicurezza Nazionale, or MVSN), which lasted until 8 September 1943 Armistice of Cassibile.

    Juan Cole also writes:

    Juan Cole, Informed Comment, April 18, 2020: “Unhinged” Trump Calls on his Mussolini-Style Black Shirts to Attack Michigan, Minnesota, Virginia

    “Mussolini’s fascists formed squads of war veterans known as “Black Shirts,” who would clash with the members of other political parties . . . In 1922, tens of thousands of Black Shirts gathered in Rome to demand political change. The liberal government sought to declare martial law, but the king of Italy, Victor Emmanuel III, fearing civil war, instead asked Mussolini to form a new government. While the Fascists constituted only a small percentage of Prime Minister Mussolini’s original government, he pressured the legislature to grant him dictatorial powers over what citizens could do and not do, seeking to meld the state with the Fascist party.”

    Those militias of the Mussolini era now wear battle gear and MAGA hats. The human brains in both cases are no different. Another four years of Trump and we could become a fascist state. However, Trump is not going way. For the next four years he will be egging on the militias to cause havoc and do damage to the Biden presidency. Trump owns their brains. They will do whatever he wants them to do. And who knows what will happen in 2024...perhaps much worse than 2020.

    The Jim Jones story is 40 years old, but the rise of fascism in Europe is coming on 100 years. History repeats itself.

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    Dutch Wrote:

    Yes that is the problem if you don't have enough "mental institutions" to help these type of people. When is this population going to think or learn to think or learn to analyze what "life" is all about and what is true or what are lies.

    I've got the feeling that the schools here don't teach that, because also the teachers are likely FOX News watchers, so what do you teach the kids then? Here the same thing applies to all the people and even Presidents what do they watch to be indoctrinated with. Because of the "free speech" craziness here, then the "media" can be used as an "mind" changing tool, because the people here get the impression what comes out of the "boob tube" that such is true and have become too lazy to analyze things. Before in the old days when we had no radio and TV, people had to find out things for themselves, but nowadays you get bombarded by all kinds of media and it depends on what you tune into and absorb. The people here have no idea that these "tools" are used to "indoctrinate" for an certain purpose, either to make money of it or to get "power" over the masses. Because of its non-culture here and lazy "brains", it is difficult to stop; people here are very gullible and believe the church and what they push, so they also believe everything else because their brains are programmed that way since being an child.

    Dutch:

    My personal experience is that teachers are generally very liberal. I've only met ONE person who admits to watching FOX - and he's an 86 year old white guy.

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    Schmidt Wrote:

    The indoctrination begins at home at a very young age. The Jim Jones analogy at the beginning of this thread is a good one. People's minds are a hard thing to understand and I've been reading about them for a long time now...psychologists and other mental health experts weigh in.

    What is scary, of course, is the comparisons to El Duce and his black shirts. The black shirts of that era are not that different from the most rabid Trump supporters of this era. When the Limbaugh caller says he would die for Trump, it is no different than a black shirt carrying out Mussolini's mission.

    From Wikipedia: The Blackshirts were established as the Squadrismo in 1919 and consisted of many disgruntled former soldiers. It was given the task of leading fights against their bitter enemies – the Socialists. They may have numbered 200,000 by the time of Mussolini's March on Rome from 27 to 29 October 1922. In 1922 the squadristi were reorganized into the milizia and formed numerous bandiere, and on 1 February 1923 the Blackshirts became the Voluntary Militia for National Security (Milizia Volontaria per la Sicurezza Nazionale, or MVSN), which lasted until 8 September 1943 Armistice of Cassibile.

    Juan Cole also writes:

    Juan Cole, Informed Comment, April 18, 2020: “Unhinged” Trump Calls on his Mussolini-Style Black Shirts to Attack Michigan, Minnesota, Virginia

    “Mussolini’s fascists formed squads of war veterans known as “Black Shirts,” who would clash with the members of other political parties . . . In 1922, tens of thousands of Black Shirts gathered in Rome to demand political change. The liberal government sought to declare martial law, but the king of Italy, Victor Emmanuel III, fearing civil war, instead asked Mussolini to form a new government. While the Fascists constituted only a small percentage of Prime Minister Mussolini’s original government, he pressured the legislature to grant him dictatorial powers over what citizens could do and not do, seeking to meld the state with the Fascist party.”

    Those militias of the Mussolini era now wear battle gear and MAGA hats. The human brains in both cases are no different. Another four years of Trump and we could become a fascist state. However, Trump is not going way. For the next four years he will be egging on the militias to cause havoc and do damage to the Biden presidency. Trump owns their brains. They will do whatever he wants them to do. And who knows what will happen in 2024...perhaps much worse than 2020.

    The Jim Jones story is 40 years old, but the rise of fascism in Europe is coming on 100 years. History repeats itself.

    Schmidt:

    A woman who fled the Jones complex in Guyana was in the news yesterday.

    Yulanda Williams fled Jonestown a year before the massacre. She went on to become an acting captain in the San Francisco Police department.

    Williams says she sees similarities between Donald Trump and Jones’ rhetoric. Trump is “responsible for the deaths of hundreds of thousands of people” from COVID-19 she said.

    https://vozwire.com/woman-who-fled-deadly-jonestown-cult-says-trump-is-responsible-for-the-deaths-of-hundreds-of-thousands-of-people/

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    Arizona, did you meet all the teachers throughout the country? My neighbor is an"teacher" in an Catholic school and an Trump voter. Furthermore if you look at statistics then you will find out that "evangelical" teachers mostly did vote for Trump; at least 70% of them.