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    Looking at all the participants on this site, also as Arizona indicated, then it boils down to about four or so regular writers.

    Right now I wonder if it is an question of "fear" due to the Nazi in the W.H., who is using his "Gestapo" tactics to get you, or is it just apathy or the don't care attitude. Read the book of Trump's niece may be then people realize what an awful dangerous person got invited into the W.H. because of our terrible election system.

    If anyone thinks I should quit writing, because like the Dutch say: "it is getting too hot under your feet" then let me know.

    I'll quit in an minute; just let the Nazi's win. Amen

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    Dutch:

    As you know, I've been trying to get participation from more people on this site.

    What I ran into in my neighborhood is that the guy that I thought would be a great addition decided not to participate because he thought the site was dominated by a handful of contributors.

    I'll readily admit that I'm a compulsive writer, so I try to limit my comments as much as possible, but will jump in with a comment if I feel a particular topic needs more commentary.

    A possible solution would be for everyone on this site to invite even ONE more participant, which would at least result in a broader range of comments.

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    Arizona, Thanks for your reply. Your last "threat" (Heading: Letters of an American) about the the likely "coup" Trump wants to do via his Gestapo is exactly of what I was afraid off. Therefore I'm amazed that there are no more writers/viewers, while the country goes to hell. Like I said he will use his "Trump Gestapo" also if he looses the election together with the Republican "gun" fanatics. I guess the people here rather sip their whiskey in an Harley Davidson club, than do something about to keep this an "democratic" country for "ALL"

    As I've said many times; as long nothing is done about our laws and "limits" for Presidents, let alone having his "private army" then this country is doomed for sure. Welcome to the "banana republic" membership.

    Yes, you are an great researcher and writer as well Schmidt and some others; but since I'm an "import" with different views about governing due to my world wide work, people here have the attitude, due to arrogance, that only this country has its act together and don't like to hear criticism about there "glorious" country of only 300 years old. Amen

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    It's sad to see so little interest when the issues within our govt. are so dysfunctional and toxic.

    This site is like 4 - 6 guys drinking coffee at the diner for 10 hours every day. Sit down and talk to them.... ? Are they interested in discussions ? I know the answer is yes but new comers...... Not sure what impressions they get. New members who return and contribute are like Unicorns.

    Hmmm. Management, any interest in expanding participants.

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    TJ Wrote:

    It's sad to see so little interest when the issues within our govt. are so dysfunctional and toxic.

    This site is like 4 - 6 guys drinking coffee at the diner for 10 hours every day. Sit down and talk to them.... ? Are they interested in discussions ? I know the answer is yes but new comers...... Not sure what impressions they get. New members who return and contribute are like Unicorns.

    Hmmm. Management, any interest in expanding participants.

    Yes, T.J. I'm amazed at the apathy and "don't care" attitude here; everything is well on the farm. May be they wake up when it is too late. Where are the "guts" and "brains" as well "decency"; I've not seen any lately from the Dem's.
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    I did a Google search via Mozilla-Firefox for political forums, democratichub didn't even show up, then I did the same search for liberal political forums, and democratichub came up, third down on the list. People have to be looking to discuss issues, nowadays, Americans are short sighted and are into one liners they can rebut.

    Want to know where people are discussing politics? I would have to say twitter and facebook. People do care (now they do) about which way this country is headed, Trump's approval/disapproval ratings reflect that in the numbers.

    He fired his former campaign head, and put in a replacement, has anyone noticed the trump daily briefings, it's scripted, and NOW, he is acting like he cares about Covid-19 and America. People call it flip-flopping, with trump, it's not, he was probably advised by his new campaign manager that if he wants to win this coming election, he needs to say things and act like he really does care, but we all know he does not, trump is still full of bs, and still America's worst president ever.

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    Dock, in this case as you say the only objective for Trump is to win,with whatever means; He'll fake anything and everything. However you and I know what the real guy is like under all his "fat". So at least his "family" knows that as well and his "niece" warned us about that: "He's an extremely dangerous asshole"

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    Dutch Wrote:

    Looking at all the participants on this site, also as Arizona indicated, then it boils down to about four or so regular writers.

    Right now I wonder if it is an question of "fear" due to the Nazi in the W.H., who is using his "Gestapo" tactics to get you, or is it just apathy or the don't care attitude. Read the book of Trump's niece may be then people realize what an awful dangerous person got invited into the W.H. because of our terrible election system.

    If anyone thinks I should quit writing, because like the Dutch say: "it is getting too hot under your feet" then let me know.

    I'll quit in an minute; just let the Nazi's win. Amen

    Writing frankly Dutch, I have become very tired of nearly every thread lately discussing the "loser", and we can't seem to shake this "loser" in the media either. Honestly, whenever the media begins talking about the "loser", I change the channel. He is in the news daily and on websites everywhere. I really do wish he would go away.

    I'm also tired of people posting links to their own websites.

    This site has gotten so monotonous.

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    Dock, sorry about that; I can't help that the 45% of this country makes it "boring", because they play the same game over and over again. Yes I find it "boring" as well; "politics" especially here is "child's" play. An never ending "drama". Common sense should run it, but here it is "me me, me" forever as well can I get on the "foreground" or make plenty of "money" from it and how can I "corrupt" things and get "rich". Who cares about the "people" anyway. Washington has lost its "manners" as well its "oversight" on the "running" of the 50 States here, who think as little individual "countries" with their own "laws and "rules" and even "religion". So how to write about this "boring" country, which manages each day to turn the apple cart over and over again. Sure I'll keep writing because it is time that the "brains" here get back to "normal" thinking, without all the "indoctrination" from all sides by the "media" and certain oddball thinkers and "cults". May be they can get me crazy as well, but that is a bit too late since I'm already gone nuts by living here and "swamped" each day by the ongoing stupidity here.

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    Dock:

    Like you, I stumbled on the site 7 or 8 years ago, and was impressed by the intelligent discussions that I read online. Schmidt was the most professorial, but there were a few others who posted good stuff as well.

    The site still attracts new participants. Jason Pearce, Karen Hedwig Backm, and TG tarheel have added some posts recently, but it needs tweaking if it wants to remain relevant. The three that I mentioned have since faded away.

    I agree with you that too much negativity can get monotonous, which is why the moderators have the ability to attach the "rant" icon to posts that are too negative. In the past, some contributors (like johnnycee in Philadelphia) have been banned from the site.

    Since I am a compulsive writer, I try to not to overwhelm the site with my posts, but sometimes I find myself writing in the style of Heather Cox Richardson, who writes excellent articles, but tends to be a little long in her articles.

    Since becoming a member, I have posted over 400o threads, Schmidt is over 7000, and Dutch is over 13,000. Dutch's personal story is very compelling, but he has a tendency to rant rather than offer constructive thoughts, so it may be time to throttle back a bit and allow others to put forth their own ideas.

    For the same reason that people slow down to look at a car wreck, too many people tune in to the FOX channel because they want to hear the latest outrage. In contrast, Chris Hayes and Rachel Maddow "rant" about topics, but include a healthy dose of humor in their stories to make them more compelling to listen to.

    By the way, the Democratic Hub also has a Facebook page, so you may want to look at that occasionally

    https://www.facebook.com/democratichub/

    Thanks for your comments.

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    Constructive "thoughts" are just about impossible, because I'm not an part of this Government and even if I could, no one in the government gives a shit about the writings on this site. They are "set" in their ways and continue as they see fit.

    I think this site is read only by a few and doubt if anyone with any important influence in the government reads it at all.

    Thus as a matter of fact we can only follow the "news" and comment on it. If we have" suggestions" then you may as well sent those to Santa Claus, the result is the same.

    I see this site more or less as an getting rid of "frustrations" than having any effect on the "population's" way of life.

    I discussed this in the past a few times in order to "publish" this site such way that people in the "government" get the chance to read it. Right now we "read" it solely by a small group who has no say into anything this government does.

    So we just muddle on and get rid of some of our frustrations and some humor once in a while, that's all folks.

    By the way I've got some "constructive thoughts" ; Change this "government" into an European/Canadian/Swedish etc. structure, with multiple parties and an Prime Minister who has limited powers and goes on his moped to work. Second get the "money" out of "governing" Also do "elections" without hoards of "money" and political grandstanding. Third have the States act like "Provinces" and "report" directly to the Federal Government, who should have "full" oversight and "control" over these States.

    Thus sent this "positive reply" to Trump and his buddies as well Pelosi and Schumer, forget Biden he's in church.

    Amen

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    Dutch:

    I'm of the opinion that this site has at leas two benefits.

    First, you are correct is saying that it is a way for us to relieve our frustrations about some of the crazy stuff going on in society that we have no control over, whether it's CRT or the slow pace of Congress or the latest conspiracy theory.

    Second, and more importantly, it's an educational tool. Although it is true that elected official are not likely to read the site, the ideas that are put on the site can provide us the ammunition we need to pose intelligent questions to elected officials or newspapers. At one point about a decade ago, I wrote a letter to every single member of the Arizona legislature to oppose a law that would have allowed guns on college campuses. Since my daughter was about to start classes at NAU, I thought it was important.

    And I won.

    On occasion, I'll write letters to my favorite columnists at the Arizona Republic, and I also have sent my thoughts to the "letters to the editor" section of the papers. Although I'll never know who took my comments to heart, I also feel that it's likely that my thoughts will make sense to at least a few people - and that may determine who they vote for in the next election.

    Since I'm a teacher, I also can pass on some of the wisdom that I have read on this site to my students, as long as I'm careful on how I do it.

    Another benefit that I have noticed is that the very process of spelling out your thoughts on paper can improve your thinking process, which make it easier to you to carry on intelligent conversations with people who may have different views that you do.

    I'll never post a thread until I have read it at least twice. One reason is that the "auto correct" feature can change some of the words we type out, and reading my thoughts again helps to ensure that they are grammatically correct and logical.

    I may be an "old fart", but I'm not too old to continue to learn as often as I can.

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    Ik ben van mening dat deze site in ieder geval twee voordelen heeft.

    Ten eerste, je hebt gelijk als je zegt dat het voor ons een manier is om onze frustraties te verlichten over een aantal van de gekke dingen die gaande zijn in de samenleving waar we geen controle over hebben, of het nu gaat om CRT of het trage tempo van het Congres of de nieuwste samenzweringstheorie.

    Ten tweede, en nog belangrijker, het is een educatief hulpmiddel. Hoewel het waar is dat gekozen functionarissen de site waarschijnlijk niet zullen lezen, kunnen de idee├źn die op de site worden geplaatst ons de munitie verschaffen die we nodig hebben om intelligente vragen te stellen aan gekozen functionarissen of kranten. Op een gegeven moment, ongeveer tien jaar geleden, schreef ik een brief aan elk lid van de wetgevende macht van Arizona om me te verzetten tegen een wet die wapens op universiteitscampussen zou hebben toegestaan. Aangezien mijn dochter op het punt stond te beginnen met lessen bij de NAU, vond ik het belangrijk.

    En ik heb gewonnen.

    Af en toe zal ik brieven schrijven aan mijn favoriete columnisten in de Republiek Arizona, en ik heb ook mijn gedachten gestuurd naar het gedeelte "brieven aan de redacteur" van de kranten. Hoewel ik nooit zal weten wie mijn opmerkingen ter harte heeft genomen, denk ik ook dat mijn gedachten waarschijnlijk voor op zijn minst een paar mensen logisch zullen zijn - en dat kan bepalen op wie ze stemmen bij de volgende verkiezingen.

    Omdat ik een leraar ben, kan ik ook een deel van de wijsheid die ik op deze site heb gelezen, doorgeven aan mijn studenten, zolang ik maar voorzichtig ben met hoe ik het doe.

    Een ander voordeel dat ik heb opgemerkt, is dat het proces van het uitschrijven van je gedachten op papier je denkproces kan verbeteren, waardoor je gemakkelijker intelligente gesprekken kunt voeren met mensen die misschien een andere mening hebben dan jij.

    Ik zal nooit een topic plaatsen voordat ik het minstens twee keer heb gelezen. Een van de redenen is dat de functie "automatisch corrigeren" sommige woorden die we typen kan veranderen, en het opnieuw lezen van mijn gedachten helpt ervoor te zorgen dat ze grammaticaal correct en logisch zijn.

    Ik ben misschien een "oude scheet", maar ik ben niet te oud om zo vaak mogelijk te blijven leren.

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    Hoe krijg je dat voor mekaar? Wow, ik zie zelfs geen taal fouten. Ik maak er veel meer. Harstikke leuk dat je dit in Nederlands hebt vertaald. Misschien moet je ook verhuizen naar Nederland en Engelse les geven daar. Nee Nederland is ook slecht aan het worden; het volgt een beetje de US op. Dus ik verhuis liever naar Spanje ook vanwege het weer en de overbevolking in Nederland. File's tot de horizon tegenwoordig, laat staan de "taxes" en de "import". In Spanje heb je meer "ruimte" dan in Nederland en minder "taxes" en meer zon. Ik wacht nog even tot de "virus" is wat minder is en de reis kosten en de verhuizing "werkt". Ik denk in het voorjaar.

    Verder wat je allemaal schrijft vind ik geweldig; jij besteed er veel tijd aan en hebt in een heleboel gelijk. Dat kan ik niet zeggen. Jammer dat je zo ver woont anders zouden we samen een borrel kunnen drinken en klinken op de rotzooi hier.

    Het allerbeste, de groeten

    Rob

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    Yes you are right, however I'm not the type who write letters to our lousy leaders. During my work I had lots of interface with the people in Washington where I lived at that time very close to the Mount Vernon house of Washington. I really enjoyed that. I had a lot of interface with the Government about certain deals and even visited and got invited by people in Congress in their homes such as Gingrich. I was part of the sales teams and helped to sell and contract 150 aircraft to American Airlines at that time; however our company went bankrupt (due to politics of the Germans) before we delivered all of them ( only a few were delivered) I got rewards for it and lots of other rewards. At that time I learned on how the US attitude worked. Since my worldwide dealing it was obvious that this is an very "arrogant" country set in their ways and actually is an isolated "island" in this big world. I enjoyed to do business in the far east because their "culture"which is way ahead of what is happening here. As I've said many times that due to doing business around the world, then you view this country as something with "growing pains" since it is only 300 years old and adapted the British clotted cream attitude. Be honest, doing the things you did, did such have any effect on the mentality here?, I doubt it . If you have an system where an "zillion" partisan "lawyers" and the "rich" determine the "rules" as well "crooks" of all kinds, then you or I can't make a "dent" in it. So I keep writing and spew my nonsense once a day, just as an "one" person's view on the wonderful interface of people and their ant like view of the world. Amen