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    that guy in AZ Wrote:

    The Senate Democratic caucus gathered Thursday morning at the Capitol for a moment of silence that lasted 8 minutes 46 seconds, the exact time that a Minneapolis police officer held his knee on George Floyd’s neck before he died May 25.

    Gathering in Emancipation Hall, the ceremony was led by the Rev. Barry Black, the Senate chaplain, and Cory Booker (D-N.J.), the longest-serving black Democratic senator, as they stood next to the statue of abolitionist hero Frederick Douglass. Standing next to Booker was Sen. Kamala D. Harris (D-Calif.).

    “Injustice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere,” Black said as he prayed at the start of the ceremony, which comes before a memorial service in Minneapolis later Thursday.

    A handful of Democrats — Sens. Michael F. Bennet (Colo.), Sherrod Brown (Ohio), Martin Heinrich (N.M.), Tim Kaine (Va.) and Chris Van Hollen (Md.) — knelt on one or both knees, a symbolic protest that started with former NFL quarterback Colin Kaepernick against police brutality but now takes on double significance after Floyd died as a result of a white officer kneeling on his neck.

    However, there was even a glimmer of decency from the Republicans.

    In a major break with President Trump, Sen. Lisa Murkowski (Alaska) said Thursday that she is struggling over her support for her fellow Republican and praised former defense secretary Jim Mattis for a statement in which he accused Trump of trying to deliberately divide Americans.

    “I thought Gen. Mattis’s words were true and honest and necessary and overdue,” Murkowski told reporters at the Capitol, adding that she had been “struggling” to find the right words to express her feelings about Trump’s presidency.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2020/06/04/george-floyd-protests-live-updates/

    Murkowski is one of the worst hypocrites on the planet; each time she "fakes" support for an Dem's thing, then she changes her mind the moment Trump offers her "goodies", as with the "impeachment". It is time she gets thrown out.
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    Trump logic: The problem is not that police are beating and killing blacks, the problem is that they not beating and killing enough white people, thus it only seems unfair. Police just need to stop being soft on white people, and starting inflicting more harm on them too.

    Trump Solution: Give all police officers full immunity for their actions, on or off duty, that way they are always right when they handle every situation.

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    A 17-year-old accused of killing two protesters days after Jacob Blake was shot by police in Kenosha, Wisconsin, faces a hearing Friday on whether he should be sent to Wisconsin to stand trial on homicide charges that could put him in prison for life.

    Kyle Rittenhouse was arrested at his home in Antioch, Illinois, a day after prosecutors say he shot and killed two protesters and injured a third on the streets of Kenosha on Aug. 25. His attorneys have said Rittenhouse acted in self-defense and have portrayed him as a courageous patriot who was exercising his right to bear arms during unrest over the shooting of Blake, who is Black.

    A judge in Lake County, Illinois, was expected to rule Friday on whether to send Rittenhouse to Kenosha to face the charges.

    Rittenhouse appears to have few options to fight the extradition.

    His lawyers could argue that he’s mentally unfit and isn’t cooperating with them, which could delay the process, said David Erickson, a former Illinois judge and prosecutor who isn't connected to the case.

    https://www.bostonglobe.com/2020/09/25/nation/hearing-seeks-move-17-year-old-protest-shooter-trial-wisconsin/

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    Truth is stranger than fiction.

    An attorney for Kyle Rittenhouse — who is accused of killing two protesters during demonstrations sparked by the police shooting of Jacob Blake – has announced plans to sue Joe Biden and his campaign for libel after he tweeted a video suggesting the Illinois teen is a white supremacist, according to a report.

    The Democratic presidential candidate wrote in his tweet, which contains the 50-second clip, that “there’s no other way to put it: the President of the United States refused to disavow white supremacists on the debate stage last night.”

    https://nypost.com/2020/10/01/kyle-rittenhouse-plans-to-sue-biden-for-libel-attorney-says/

    Federal law enforcement officials were directed to make public comments sympathetic to Kyle Rittenhouse, the teenager charged with fatally shooting two protesters in Kenosha, Wisconsin, according to internal Department of Homeland Security talking points obtained by NBC News.

    In preparing Homeland Security officials for questions about Rittenhouse from the media, the document suggests that they note that he "took his rifle to the scene of the rioting to help defend small business owners."

    Another set of talking points distributed to Homeland Security officials said the media were incorrectly labeling the group Patriot Prayer as racists after clashes erupted between the group and protesters in Portland, Oregon.

    It is unclear whether any of the talking points originated at the White House or within Homeland Security's own press office.

    https://news.yahoo.com/internal-document-shows-trump-officials-090009002.html

    You may also remember that Nick Sandmann, the smart ass kid from Covington, Kentucky, filed a $250 million libel lawsuit against the Washington Post, CNN, and other news stories. Ultimately, the Post and Sandmann reached an agreement, but no details were provided.

    The settlement will allow the newspaper to avoid a lengthy and potentially unpredictable trial.

    The judge overseeing the case previously dismissed the lawsuit against The Post last summer. But he later reinstated the case, narrowing its scope significantly.

    https://www.cnn.com/2020/07/24/media/washington-post-sandmann-settlement-lawsuit/index.html

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    Sorry but this country is getting sicker by the day. In other words if you shoot and kill 2 and a half people, then you can sue Biden. Wow! My computer broke; can I now sue Biden?. I'll ask my attorney. I probably win ask Trump.
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    Yeah well, what do we call people who take the law into their own hands? Vigilante.

    And the local police departments of Kenosha are petting Trump, the militia groups and Rittenhouse. David Beth, Kenosha county sheriff endorsed Trump, I wonder if he himself is a white supremacist? I wonder if the Kenosha police chief Daniel G. Miskinis is a white supremacist too?

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    Hoping very very much that Mr. Biden is successful. I would love to see the new Attorney General take extra time and effort to follow and persuade all involved in the case ofhis punk kid and his enabling Mom.

    Then there's a special Tax Fraud case that requires a special investigation and firm applications of every law that was broken or even bent. I will send a nice donation to the party if that happens. Fingers crossed.

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    I hope that as well, but there is an "but". He will likely win, but not the "honest way " via the electoral college. He's working on it. Looking at the case with the "kid", it shows that this country under Trump has slid all the way into the S.American ravine of corruption and murder. All civil countries of the world look at amazement at this "corrupt" country without "norms"
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    I sent a email to the Kenosha county sheriff yesterday asking him if he was a white supremacist and saying I thought he was for endorsing Trump. I have not received a reply as yet.
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    Dock:

    Good for you!

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    Dockadams Wrote:

    Yeah well, what do we call people who take the law into their own hands? Vigilante.

    And the local police departments of Kenosha are petting Trump, the militia groups and Rittenhouse. David Beth, Kenosha county sheriff endorsed Trump, I wonder if he himself is a white supremacist? I wonder if the Kenosha police chief Daniel G. Miskinis is a white supremacist too?

    Dock:

    You were closer to the action than the rest of us, but the Washington Post this morning explained why the events in Kenosha were more complicated than we had previously know. For one thing, the individuals involved in the shooting were all very disturbed individuals:

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2020/10/03/kenosha-shooting-victims/?arc404=true

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    I have not heard back from the Kenosha sheriff, he's probably fearful to answer a direct question.

    I couldn't get into WAPO, I'm not a subscriber.

    I have many thoughts about what went awry here in this city.

    The #1 thing that sticks in my mind is why did both police departments sit on their hands after one of their own pumped 7 shots into the back of a black man? If I were the chief or the sheriff himself, I would have mobilized the entire force to keep watch over the city and act if riots were about to start, and I would have had my detectives watching social media outlets for possible activity concerning group gathering posts/texts/messages. The cops really dropped the ball on protecting city and privately owned assets. Prepare for the influx of out of towners. It was days after the most damage occurred that the state patrol and other agencies began closing exits to this city, and trying to identify people coming in. Too late.

    As a police department, you just don't shoot someone inexplicably and then sit idly by and wait for shit to happen, because it almost assuredly will. We have seen many other citizens in other cities react in the same way. Riots will happen. People will go to other cities where there's trouble. Some go to peacefully protest, some go to cause harm. or retribution.

    nytimes.com/interactive/2014/08/13/us/f...

    A recent article stated that not all the rioters who caused the damage to city property and private businesses were from local residents, it claimed that residents of this city were not that bad enough to want to cause catastrophic damage. I call bull on that remark made by local media. As an example, the DOC building was bombed, this could not have happened by an out of towner. Most people (locals) who have been to the DOC building know where it is located. Namely, people who have been in trouble with the law on previous occasions. I don't believe it was an out of towner who fire bombed the DOC building, I think it was a local who probably thought the corrections department/justice system treated him/her unfairly in the past as a reason to burn the place to the ground, that, and the shooting of Jacob Blake.

    The damage here is still apparent, many things have not been cleaned up yet.

    kenoshanews.com/news/local/owner-of-bur...

    Some businesses have taken the boards off of their store fronts too early IMHO. The DOJ still is deliberating the fate of 3 cops. Should no charges be filed against any, I would expect people to take to the streets again, seeking retribution. I don't believe this is over yet.

    I got a call from the professional police association, asking me to back the badge. My answer was no, not until cops stop violating people's civil rights.

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    Today, another hearing for Rittenhouse, the 17 y.o. who shot 3 and killed 2 in Kenosha. He's fighting extradition back to Wisconsin to face homicide charges, and again is delayed because hi lawyers are playing some kind of a game. The Lake County, Illinois judge presiding over the extradition hearing I believe is getting tired of the defendant's lawyers and their pleas. Read more about it in this link,

    kenoshanews.com/news/local/crime-and-co...

    " Defense attorney John Pierce argued Friday that Rittenhouse is being politically persecuted and compared the current political environment to the lead up to the Civil War. "

    Now, doesn't that sound absurd and ridiculous? Only from a lawyer's brain and lips.

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    Dockadams Wrote:

    Today, another hearing for Rittenhouse, the 17 y.o. who shot 3 and killed 2 in Kenosha. He's fighting extradition back to Wisconsin to face homicide charges, and again is delayed because hi lawyers are playing some kind of a game. The Lake County, Illinois judge presiding over the extradition hearing I believe is getting tired of the defendant's lawyers and their pleas. Read more about it in this link,

    kenoshanews.com/news/local/crime-and-co...

    " Defense attorney John Pierce argued Friday that Rittenhouse is being politically persecuted and compared the current political environment to the lead up to the Civil War. "

    Now, doesn't that sound absurd and ridiculous? Only from a lawyer's brain and lips.

    Bail for Kyle Rittenhouse, an Illinois teenager accused of killing two men during protests over a police shooting in Kenosha, Wisconsin, was set at $2 million on Monday as Rittenhouse made a first appearance in a Wisconsin court.

    The father of one of the men who died urged the court not to allow Rittenhouse’s release, warning that he is a flight risk. “Kyle Rittenhouse thinks he’s above the law and he’s been treated as such by law enforcement,” said John Huber, the father of Anthony M. Huber, who was killed in the shooting.

    The hearing on Monday afternoon came as Trump was scheduled to hold a rally at the Kenosha Regional Airport on the final day of campaigning before Tuesday’s election. A protest against Trump’s appearance was set for Monday evening outside the Kenosha County courthouse, where protesters had demonstrated in August.

    https://www.bostonglobe.com/2020/11/02/nation/bail-kyle-rittenhouse-set-2-million-kenosha-protest-shooting/

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    I know, I know, I've been keeping track of the case wherever I can get information from, reliable information that is...I expect the defendant will be sprung in a week or two, gun rights people are probably working on securing the $2M for his bail now.

    I'm bothered as to why the rifle/gun straw purchaser and the defendant's mother have not been charged yet? hmm.

    "Details of a Straw Sale

    Let’s take a minute and first review what a “straw” sale is. A straw purchase is any purchase in which a second person agrees to acquire a firearm for someone who is ineligible to purchase the firearm for himself. A straw purchaser can be identified as a person with a clean background who purchases firearms specifically on behalf of a person prohibited from purchasing a firearm because that prohibited person is a convicted felon, domestic violence misdemeanant, juvenile"

    nssf.org/beware-the-straw-purchase/