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The Republican Right will Smear Joe Biden as a Big Government Liberal


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  • Center Left
    2020-03-09 08:45:57 PM
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    Rejecting Bernie Sanders will not insulate Democrats from charges of being leftists or big government liberal elitists. They have already attacked Joe Biden, and it won't stop when he becomes the nominee. The right doesn't believe in moderate Democrats and they have proven effective in convincing voters of the same thing. DeRoy Murdoch made this point in a National Review Article in February before Biden emerged as the front runner. Murdoch declared Biden along with Senator Amy Klobuchar and Mayor Pete Buttigieg were " big government liberals. " He cited the Americans For Democratic Action Liberal Quotient with 100% being the highest. Bernie Sanders got 100% Klobuchar got 95% and Biden during his time in the Senate scored 80%. Murdoch wrote - but even if primary voters just say " nyet " to Bernie Sanders, Democrats will not choose a moderate because no such creature is currently running for President of the United States.

    More recently Sally Pipes wrote online for Fox News attacking Biden on healthcare. She went after his proposal for a public health insurance plan to compete with private insurers. Pipes called it " single payer in slow motion."

    She claims:

    1. A public option unlike private insurers can dictate what it will pay healthcare providers giving it a huge cost advantage.

    2. Consumers will flock to the cheaper government plan.

    3. Providers raise rates for private insurers who pass the costs on to customers in higher premiums

    All this will drive people into the government program and private insurers will soon go out of business. Pipes of course believes this will lead to a Democratic defeat in 2020.

    As usual the right will smear and distort Democrats image as "liberals " whether it's on healthcare, taxes, or climate change. Biden isn't a consistent debater or a compelling speaker. He's also prone to gaffes. He will have to do better in these areas while taking the fight to Trump that means confidently defining yourself and the issues.

    www.nationalreview.com /2020/02/democratic-presidential- candidates - no moderates

    www.foxnews.com/opinion/sally-pipes-biden-sanders-would-both-end-private-insurance

  • Dutch
    2020-03-10 09:08:34 AM
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    Neither Sanders or Biden are good choices; I saw an interview last night with Biden on MSNBC, where he barely did come out of his words and sounds a bit senile once in a while. Looks a bit like alzheimer. He stumbles with his words and gave incoherent answers on most of the things asked. No clear answer of what he wants to do with healthcare at all. "Whishy Washy", not impressed at all. The two "oldies" should retire. My opinion.
  • Chet Ruminski
    2020-03-10 12:37:58 PM
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    Center Left Wrote:

    Rejecting Bernie Sanders will not insulate Democrats from charges of being leftists or big government liberal elitists. They have already attacked Joe Biden, and it won't stop when he becomes the nominee. The right doesn't believe in moderate Democrats and they have proven effective in convincing voters of the same thing. DeRoy Murdoch made this point in a National Review Article in February before Biden emerged as the front runner. Murdoch declared Biden along with Senator Amy Klobuchar and Mayor Pete Buttigieg were " big government liberals. " He cited the Americans For Democratic Action Liberal Quotient with 100% being the highest. Bernie Sanders got 100% Klobuchar got 95% and Biden during his time in the Senate scored 80%. Murdoch wrote - but even if primary voters just say " nyet " to Bernie Sanders, Democrats will not choose a moderate because no such creature is currently running for President of the United States.

    More recently Sally Pipes wrote online for Fox News attacking Biden on healthcare. She went after his proposal for a public health insurance plan to compete with private insurers. Pipes called it " single payer in slow motion."

    She claims:

    1. A public option unlike private insurers can dictate what it will pay healthcare providers giving it a huge cost advantage.

    2. Consumers will flock to the cheaper government plan.

    3. Providers raise rates for private insurers who pass the costs on to customers in higher premiums

    All this will drive people into the government program and private insurers will soon go out of business. Pipes of course believes this will lead to a Democratic defeat in 2020.

    As usual the right will smear and distort Democrats image as "liberals " whether it's on healthcare, taxes, or climate change. Biden isn't a consistent debater or a compelling speaker. He's also prone to gaffes. He will have to do better in these areas while taking the fight to Trump that means confidently defining yourself and the issues.

    www.nationalreview.com /2020/02/democratic-presidential- candidates - no moderates

    www.foxnews.com/opinion/sally-pipes-biden-sanders-would-both-end-private-insurance

    Sanders gained popularity because of over 50 years of stagnant hourly workers wages, college costing more than a house, health care plans that poor people can’t use that actually subsidize upper income plans. That is what energized a left movement.

    If this election reaches a debate , Trump can very easily win a debate because Trump will promise Democratic solutions while Biden will have to counter with less spending and moderation. Trump will most likely lie and Biden will be left defending a campaign that lost in 2016.

  • jaredsxtn
    2020-03-10 03:58:38 PM
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    Republicans will smear whoever the Democratic nominee is. That's going to happen no matter what.

    Personally, I'd much rather them try to smear Biden as a "big government liberal" because that's what they always do to whoever the candidate is. Sometimes it works. Other times it doesn't. But one thing is for certain - Democrats at least know how to push back against that argument.

    However, if Bernie somehow gets the nomination then Democrats will have spend months trying to convince low-information voters in a handful of swing states that, contrary to the countless ads telling them otherwise, Bernie isn't a Communist who will take away their God, guns, and country.

    Which would you rather argue to the voter who gets all their political information from Facebook and Twitter?

  • Dutch
    2020-03-10 04:11:33 PM
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    Sorry these two candidates are not up to the task awaiting them. They both have no idea of any form of "reality" which is required to tackle the job. Biden is"floating" somewhere in "la la" land and Bernie wants to copy Norway, while he's never been there, and does not know that you can't start an socialistic structure without changing the whole system; especially without "lobbyists" and "corruption" on all levels including "elections". Biden does not even know what he wants. No plan or clear thinking about where to even start. If any of them gets elected, the Trump Party will in no time roll over them with the biggest steamroller there is.

    Please elect someone who's got determination and has an goal as well an "schedule", I guess we are not running an old age home and serving tea and cookies.

    I think it is time for Bloomberg to jump in again; because otherwise Trump will win again.

    Sorry people the truth hurts.


  • lonely bird
    2020-03-10 09:06:54 PM
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    Private insurance death panels already determine what will and won’t be paid for. That needs to be hammered on again and again. The number of bankruptcies due to medical bills needs to be hammered on again and again. Picture an ad showing a coffee can at a gas station asking for money for little Sally’s cancer treatment and the voiceover saying “what if Sally’s parents didn’t have to beg for money to pay for their daughter’s treatment?”
  • wwjd
    2020-03-11 05:36:05 AM
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    Trump's base loves his version of dirty politics, they love his insults and name calling, and loves when he tops himself by going lower than before. Fully expect Trump to break new ground in politics, don't be surprised if he starts dropping F-bombs at his campaign 2020 rallies, which his base will roar with support. He is likely to also make obscene sexist jokes directed at democratic women he does not like, such as HC.... None of which will get him any new voters, just keep his base interested in him for his entertainment value. They don't give a damn about his policies, they just love that he is a total train wreck.

    Republicans outside his base don't care for his methods, many vote for him because he has labelled himself a Republican... Like in the movie Blazing Saddles where the town of stupid white people believe things are true simply because it has a label on it. "He must be a great and wise man, he has a name tag that says 'I am a White Republican'"

  • Center Left
    2020-03-15 08:41:16 PM
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    Chet Ruminski Wrote:
    Center Left Wrote:

    Rejecting Bernie Sanders will not insulate Democrats from charges of being leftists or big government liberal elitists. They have already attacked Joe Biden, and it won't stop when he becomes the nominee. The right doesn't believe in moderate Democrats and they have proven effective in convincing voters of the same thing. DeRoy Murdoch made this point in a National Review Article in February before Biden emerged as the front runner. Murdoch declared Biden along with Senator Amy Klobuchar and Mayor Pete Buttigieg were " big government liberals. " He cited the Americans For Democratic Action Liberal Quotient with 100% being the highest. Bernie Sanders got 100% Klobuchar got 95% and Biden during his time in the Senate scored 80%. Murdoch wrote - but even if primary voters just say " nyet " to Bernie Sanders, Democrats will not choose a moderate because no such creature is currently running for President of the United States.

    More recently Sally Pipes wrote online for Fox News attacking Biden on healthcare. She went after his proposal for a public health insurance plan to compete with private insurers. Pipes called it " single payer in slow motion."

    She claims:

    1. A public option unlike private insurers can dictate what it will pay healthcare providers giving it a huge cost advantage.

    2. Consumers will flock to the cheaper government plan.

    3. Providers raise rates for private insurers who pass the costs on to customers in higher premiums

    All this will drive people into the government program and private insurers will soon go out of business. Pipes of course believes this will lead to a Democratic defeat in 2020.

    As usual the right will smear and distort Democrats image as "liberals " whether it's on healthcare, taxes, or climate change. Biden isn't a consistent debater or a compelling speaker. He's also prone to gaffes. He will have to do better in these areas while taking the fight to Trump that means confidently defining yourself and the issues.

    www.nationalreview.com /2020/02/democratic-presidential- candidates - no moderates

    www.foxnews.com/opinion/sally-pipes-biden-sanders-would-both-end-private-insurance

    Sanders gained popularity because of over 50 years of stagnant hourly workers wages, college costing more than a house, health care plans that poor people can’t use that actually subsidize upper income plans. That is what energized a left movement.

    If this election reaches a debate , Trump can very easily win a debate because Trump will promise Democratic solutions while Biden will have to counter with less spending and moderation. Trump will most likely lie and Biden will be left defending a campaign that lost in 2016.

    Biden has got to get out in front of this now. He's got to show that Trump will take away health insurance from millions of Americans. He's got to make this the signature issue and part of a different vision for America. I just hope he's up to the task cognitively.
  • that guy in AZ
    2020-04-30 02:25:29 PM
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    From GOPUSA this morning came this tidbit:

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    Could Biden Sex Assault Charges Force Him From Ticket?

    The sexual assault allegations against Joe Biden are forcing Democrats on the defensive and could even escalate to the point of dumping Biden from the ticket. Biden right now is lucky that the coronavirus is swamping all other media coverage and the Democrat-friendly media is giving a pass to the 77-year-old former vice president. But that could change quickly.

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    The truth, of course, is that Biden did nothing more than touch a woman on the shoulder .. if the Republicans are dumb enough to push this narrative, the Democrats are free to remind voters that more than 20 woman have filed allegations of sexual impropriety against Trump, he paid hush money to two women he was having affairs with just before the 2016 election, and he has cheated on all three of his wives ..

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    The editorial board of the New York Times feels that Tara Reade's allegations should be investigated. Even though I don't think that Biden is guilty, I agree with them AS LONG AS TRUMP IS INVESTIGATED AS WELL.

    It has been noted that President Trump has been accused of sexual harassment or assault by more than a dozen women. Those claims also should be investigated, and the Republicans concerned about Mr. Biden’s behavior now should be at least equally focused on the questions about Mr. Trump’s. For his part, Mr. Trump does not seriously address the claims against him; he simply denies them and attacks his accusers.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2020/05/01/opinion/biden-tara-reade.html?action=click&module=Opinion&pgtype=Homepage

  • Dutch
    2020-05-01 08:57:32 AM
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    Biden was on TV this morning; he was asked all these things. I found him kind of "wishy washy" not acting as an solid determined Presidential candidate. The question about what he would do with the "virus' thing and the huge unemployment it did create, he did not come out with an "solid" answer nor has an "plan". I think the Dem's again shot themselves in the foot. Sorry to say Bloomberg would have been an much better choice. It is again showing that the Dem's always have problems in electing Presidents, ask Hillary and Bill. Indeed he should get off the ticket.

    I guess he has no clue what to do in the situation of this country; unemployment will stay high, the "deficit" will be astronomical, the virus may come back, China may hit back because of what Trump did, the middle east remains an mess, the stock market will tank even more. I doubt if Biden is the person who can get this country back in shape.

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