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    Technical speaking, this thread is about the 2020 election. However, this "survey" is so outlandish, the only title I could think of was "still crazy after all these years".

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    Arizona -- Yes the list captures all the adjectives ascribed to Democratic candidates. It is so typical of what they do in appealing to a segment of the "dumbed down" American electorate. When I see this shit and other stuff like the fake census, I just cringe that a large segment of the populace can be so taken in -- fooled by it. As I have said many times, it feeds one's emotions, and emotions always trump critical thinking.

    Yes it is CRAZY...I cannot think of a better word. Maybe Dutch can.

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    The only Dutch thing I can think of is: Ze zijn allemaal door de molen wieken geraakt en knetter gek geworden
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    The title of this thread deserves attention. Paul Simon won album of the year in 1976 with “Still Crazy After All of These Years”. It beat out what I consider one of the greatest albums ever “Captain Fantastic and the Brown Dirt Cowboy”. I was on my way to Florida with a case of newly popular Cold Duck to celebrate a deal involving a new truck we bought. It started torrential raining and I was averaging 30 MPH instead of 80, then the radio announced Paul Simon won over my favorite. That news let me override normal thinking and broke out the Cold Duck and got my average MPH back to 80. (Might have been Blue Nun)
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    Dutch Wrote: The only Dutch thing I can think of is: Ze zijn allemaal door de molen wieken geraakt en knetter gek geworden

    "They've all fallen through the mill and gone crazy." That's what the online translator says.


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    The translation is actually "they've all been hit by the windmill and gone completely mad".

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    Being a lame duck president has made Trump even loonier.

    His interview with FOX on Sunday proves that he is one taco short of a combination plate.

    In a phone interview on Sunday with host Maria Bartiromo, the soon-to-be-former president used the opportunity to tote his usual baseless allegations of voter fraud. He went from suggesting that the FBI and Department of Justice (DOJ) are involved in a conspiracy against him to alleging that dead people applied for mail-in ballots and poll watchers were thrown out of counting rooms by “thugs” in Pennsylvania, Georgia, Michigan, Arizona, Wisconsin, and Nevada.

    If you listen to the three videos in the link below, it's obvious that he needs to be housed in a padded room so that he doesn't hurt himself.

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    The people surrounding Trump are just as crazy as he is.

    Rudy Giuliani has been in the news a lot lately, but Sidney Powell is just as crazy.

    Another one of Trump's lawyers who is not playing with a full deck is Joe di Genova, who said Monday that Christopher Krebs, the government’s former top election security official who rebutted Trump’s baseless claims about massive election fraud, should be “taken out at dawn and shot.”

    Krebs, during an appearance Tuesday on NBC’s “Today” show, suggested he might take legal action in response to such comments.

    “It’s certainly more dangerous language, more dangerous behavior,” he said. “We’re taking a look at all our available opportunities.”

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    Two more examples popped up this morning about how crazy Trump supporters are.

    1) Another effort to overturn Donald Trump’s election loss failed in a Michigan court early Monday morning, with U.S. District Judge Linda Parker not only rejecting the attempt—“The People have spoken,” she wrote—but seeing through to the lawsuit’s real goal. The suit by six Michigan Republicans, represented by Sidney “Kraken” Powell, was “more about the impact of their allegations on people’s faith in the democratic process and their trust in our government” than it was about actually winning.

    The Republicans were asking for, get this, a court order requiring Gov. Gretchen Whitmer to formally certify that Trump won the state despite having lost the state and for all voting equipment to be impounded. Parker wasn’t having it: “The closest plaintiffs get to alleging that election machines and software changed votes for President Trump to Vice President Biden in Wayne County is an amalgamation of theories, conjecture, and speculation that such alterations were possible.”

    And based on all those theories, conjecture, and speculation, Powell and her Republican plaintiffs were asking for a judgment that would be “stunning in its scope and breathtaking in its reach."

    "If granted, the relief would disenfranchise the votes of the more than 5.5 million Michigan citizens who, with dignity, hope, and a promise of a voice, participated in the 2020 general Election,” Parker wrote.

    In other words: No. Definitely not.

    On Friday, the Michigan Supreme Court rejected a Republican appeal of an earlier loss in the effort to block Wayne County’s votes from being certified. (The Trump campaign and allied Republicans took losses in six states on Friday.) But of course, as Judge Parker noted, at this point the plan is less to win in court than to spread distrust and, in too many susceptible people’s eyes, delegitimize Joe Biden’s entirely legitimate presidency.

    2) With the religious right’s otherworldly loyalty to Trump and outright endorsement of his coup attempt, it was only a matter of time before a Trumpvangelical crossed the line into calling for outright violence. Well, last week Rick Wiles of TruNews did exactly that. On the day before Thanksgiving, he called for Trump to have Democrats and journalists lined up and shot.

    The Christian pastor made the remarks during an episode of his TruNews program last Wednesday as he discussed Trump's baseless claims of widespread voter fraud. Wiles also pointed out that the Justice Department has created a new rule allowing for firing squads to be used in federal executions.


    "I'm not trying to be funny but [it's been fast-tracked] because they plan to shoot some people," Wiles said. "They're gonna have a bunch of traitors. They're gonna line 'em up against the wall and start shooting them. Because that's what they deserve."

    TruNews got low marks from mediabias/factcheck:

    • Overall, we rate TruNews an extreme right website that promotes hate, tinfoil hat conspiracies, and pseudoscience.

    The TruNews radio program is hosted by Rick Wiles a far-right Christian Fundamentalist. The associated website is Rick Wiles is a non-denominational senior pastor at Flowing Streams Church in Vero Beach, Florida, and a conspiracy theorist radio host and pundit. Rick Wiles claims to be the father of “citizen reporting.” According to their about page “TruNews into an internationally recognized source of credible news and information in a world where nothing seems to make sense anymore.”

    The website frequently promotes antisemitic and racist conspiracy theories and has been granted press credentials by the Trump administration. Finally in 2020, Wiles urged President Trump to use “billions of hollow-point bullets” against Black Lives Matter protestors in Portland, Oregon to put down the “insurrection”. He claimed the bullets were hoarded by President Obama “to round up Christians and constitutionalists under a President Hillary Clinton.”

    In February 2020, TruNews was permanently banned from YouTube

    Before becoming a radio host, Wiles worked as an advertising and marketing sales manager for CNN and ESPN in the early 1980s, and in 1984 joined the Christian Broadcasting Network as their first National Cable Marketing Manager. In 1995, he was hired as the Marketing Director for Trinity Broadcasting Network. He resigned from the network in September 1998.[

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    I have been robbed by voter fraud and cheating and...... That brilliant CON initially netted him 170 million in donations that will go into his pocket. A few days ago I heard it was over 220 million. He will drain his loyal following until they're struggling to buy groceries. By mid January it will probably be 400 million. Didn't they say he had massive debts of 421 million that would be due in the next year or two ? He is crooked and evil but as Con artists go he is Olympic grade. A fool and his money soon go separate ways. I think that's the line. What a pathetic page in American history.
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    T.J. I guess you are one of the few who got the picture. I just wonder who the idiots are who gave that "money" ? I think you may as well have given it to the "poor" instead, because giving it to Trump, what do you get in "return"? Nothing at all once he's out of the "office". The "rich" here are as "brainless" as just about "half" of this country who voted for him.

    If they gave that money they at least get an "tax" reduction; so the "rich" stay rich. The "gap" between "rich" and "poor" only has doubled during "clown" Trump's tenure. But yeah the one's who voted for this crook will stay "poor" and may get the "virus"as a bonus; that's life in the "wild west" of La la land.

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    The Arizona Republican Party has asked its followers if they are willing to die for the cause of overturning the presidential election results, eliciting alarm and criticism in response.

    The party's official Twitter account on Monday night shared a post from Ali Alexander, an activist with an organization called "Stop the Steal" that has protested election results.

    "I am willing to give my life for this fight," Alexander wrote. When sharing the post, the GOP asked followers: "He is. Are you?"

    The GOP then posted a clip from the movie "Rambo", highlighting the quote: “This is what we do, who we are. Live for nothing, or die for something.”

    A handful of users replied they were indeed willing to give their lives to the cause. But the majority of respondents — which included voters, lawmakers and pundits — decried the posts as "dangerous" and "insane."

    "You're asking people to die for this conspiracy theory?" Arizona Sen. Martín Quezada, D-Maryvale, wrote in a tweet. "What in the living hell is wrong with you people?"

    Right Wing Watch had some interesting commentary about Alexander on November 5:

    Yep. The guy on the right is Roger Stone.

    The original “Stop the Steal” campaign was led by Alexander in 2018, along with convicted felon and self-described “dirty trickster” Roger Stone, who Alexander said came up with the phrase, and his associates, including Posobiec. The campaign featured protests and misinformation against a ballot recount in Florida’s 2018 Senate race between Republican Rick Scott and Democrat Bill Nelson. In that campaign, pro-Trump activists from around the country descended on Florida to protest and spread misinformation, a seeming reboot of the so-called “Brooks Brothers riot,” which broke out following Florida’s contested presidential election results in 2000. Stone was behind that riot, which shut down recount efforts in Miami-Dade.

    For the 2018 “Stop the Steal” campaign, Alexander said that he had recruited QAnon followers as well as people experiencing homelessness to fill spots at the protest. Politico reported in 2016 that Alexander’s PAC had received a large donation from billionaire Robert Mercer; Ali claims to not be taking money from him for this campaign.

    (Mercer is the money behind Breitbart News).

    In a panicked Periscope broadcast Wednesday evening, Alexander said he was “busy organizing thousands and thousands and thousands of people” to join “voter integrity” rallies in Phoenix, Arizona, Harrisburg, Pennsylvania, Detroit, Michigan, Madison, Wisconsin, and Atlanta, Georgia, (and perhaps Nevada) to protest. Alexander said the first rally would feature “Pizzagate” booster Mike Cernovich at the capitol in Arizona at 7 p.m. Wednesday evening, claiming that they’d have hundreds there and 10,000 attendees there by Friday. A second rally took place Wednesday night in Las Vegas. Alexander encouraged viewers to go to a website where they could register with the campaign and explained how he hoped to draw attention to these rallies.

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    Now that Trump is less than 30 days from being forced from office, he is getting crazier by the day.

    President Trump lashed out at Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell on Monday night for acknowledging Joe Biden won the election, sending a slide to Republican lawmakers taking credit for saving McConnell's career with a tweet and robocall.

    While both the message and its delivery targeted McConnell, they also carried a subtle warning to other Republicans who may follow suit as the president grasps at the last straws of his election-fraud claim.

    President Trump, in his final days, is turning bitterly on virtually every person around him, griping about anyone who refuses to indulge conspiracy theories or hopeless bids to overturn the election, several top officials tell Axios.

    The latest: Targets of his outrage include Vice President Pence, chief of staff Mark Meadows, White House counsel Pat Cipollone, and Secretary of State Pompeo.

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    Americans would be smart to totally ignore the vile imbecile. He is literally crying for attention and any attention will do. We should all stop commenting on social media and in general ignore him because it's the polar opposite of what he desperately wants.
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    TJ Wrote: Americans would be smart to totally ignore the vile imbecile. He is literally crying for attention and any attention will do. We should all stop commenting on social media and in general ignore him because it's the polar opposite of what he desperately wants.

    In Bob Woodward's book Rage he quote Jerard Kershner's statement "Controversy elevates message" and the message could be anything, including "NASA faked the moon landing"; the Controversy (Donald Trump-The personality) that elevates the message will turn non-believers into believers not because the message is true, but because of entertainment value that comes from the Controversy. Think of this way, imagine going to a Las Vegas Magic show where you see amazing tricks that nobody in the audience can figure out. What if 30% believed what they saw was reality, not tricks. That 30% are the hardcore Trump supporters who simply believe what Donald Trump states is 100% real, everything he claims he has done has been accomplished. They don't see it as trick or even as regular politics, they see it as an AMAZING reality that only Donald Trump can do,nobody else. Donald Trump claims the election was full of massive fraud, etc, etc, etc, therefore it must be true; from their perspective it 100% real simply because he said it. If they were to see him walk on water, in their minds it would not be entertaining trick, it would be reality... Not talking about everyone who voted for him, just his hardcore supporter who have elevated him to God-like status, he is perfect.