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War With Iran Will Make the Iraq War Look Like Child's Play

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    New York Times: Missile Strike Damage Appears Limited, but Iran May Not Be Done

    "Iran said its bombings in Iraq had “concluded proportionate measures” against the United States, but officials around the region said that did not mean it was done maneuvering."

    The overall stated goal of the Iranians is forcing the US military out of Iraq. Until that goal is achieved, the US military may continue to be targeted.

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    Schmidt Wrote:

    New York Times: Missile Strike Damage Appears Limited, but Iran May Not Be Done

    "Iran said its bombings in Iraq had “concluded proportionate measures” against the United States, but officials around the region said that did not mean it was done maneuvering."

    The overall stated goal of the Iranians is forcing the US military out of Iraq. Until that goal is achieved, the US military may continue to be targeted.

    It is an clear message to Trump not to play with Iran and shows that they have the rockets to defend themselves. On the news they said likely they've done this on purpose not to kill US military troops. I guess they are an lot smarter than Trump or Pompeo. Iran's/Iraq's objective remains to get the US out of the middle east.
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    Schmidt Wrote:

    New York Times: Missile Strike Damage Appears Limited, but Iran May Not Be Done

    "Iran said its bombings in Iraq had “concluded proportionate measures” against the United States, but officials around the region said that did not mean it was done maneuvering."

    The overall stated goal of the Iranians is forcing the US military out of Iraq. Until that goal is achieved, the US military may continue to be targeted.

    It's difficult to predict exactly what Iran intended with their (apparent) deliberate miss of any US soldiers in their bombing of the two American bases in Iraq. Did Ayatollah Khamenei go this route as a warning to the US that their missiles can hit them wherever they are in Iraq or was this really Iran's only "response" to the assassination of Qassem Soleimani? I have to believe that it's the former and not the latter.

    My guess is that Khamenei is playing chess while Donald (and his Republican lapdogs) are playing schoolyard checkers. Khamenei is well aware that the American military is already stretched woefully thin *and* that there is zero appetite in the US for yet another hot war in yet another Middle-Eastern country. What better way to taunt Donald than hit a couple bases to show your reach, but deliberately make it so there's no causalities to at least have an appearance of moderation? That way the international community will have little appetite to rally behind Donald if he makes the decision to escalate this pointless conflict even further.

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    I just listened to Trump's statement on the attack yesterday. I just wanted to barf. Same ole threatening rhetoric on Iran. Bragging on himself again...me, me, me. Another version of a Trump rally speech wandering all over the place. He is pathetic.
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    Schmidt Wrote: I just listened to Trump's statement on the attack yesterday. I just wanted to barf. Same ole threatening rhetoric on Iran. Bragging on himself again...me, me, me. Another version of a Trump rally speech wandering all over the place. He is pathetic.
    It's so terrifying that this man is in charge of our armed forces.
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    Dockadams Wrote: IDK Jared, they just yesterday dispatched 6 B52 bombers to that area, and those can be very destructive, they were used in the Viet Nam war primarily carpet bombing. If the US is planning on carpet bombing Iran, they'd better be really careful not to kill innocent Iranians.

    I have no doubt how destructive American bombs can be, but I also have no doubt that Americans have zero appetite for a hot war with Iran. I also have little to zero faith that the US would be able to "win" a hot war with Iran.

    Iran is huge. Our elementary school geography books and mapmakers have given us a distorted vision of its size. Iran also has a big, modern, and loyal military that is far more capable than the Iraqi military in 2003 (and look how that turned out for us). Add those two things together and war with Iran could very well be catastrophic.

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    Iran now admitted that by accident they shot the 737-800 down. So now Trump has an excuse that Irani's are the bad guy. However, who started all this? If Trump would have continued with the Nuke deal done by Kerry that would have saved all these lives. Thus who is actually the guilty one?
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    Dutch -- Yes if you consider timeline of events, one could go back several iterations on trump actions. Probably the start would be Trump's withdrawal from the Paris Accord and his new sanctions on Iran. If he had left things alone, none of this would have happened.

    However, I suppose the real catalyst was Barack Obama. If Trump wasn't so hell bent on undoing everything Obama did, then none of this would have happened. So blame Obama.

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    Yes, I just wonder what Obama is thinking now; it could be so peaceful in the world if we would have elected someone with "qualifications" and "brains" instead of an mafia trained spoiled brat. But yeah this country refuses to get rid of the electoral college and just let "votes" count, as well change the election laws by taking the "money" out of it . Other civilized countries have such already for ages, but yeah on this island they prefer to live as they did in 1800. The more "corrupt" the better.