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  • Dutch
    11-01-2020 01:23:53 PM
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    I've got the feeling that people here are too dumb to realize what these Trumpers are doing. Not only does he spread the "virus" but also we may not have the Obama Care anymore and neither perhaps a decent pension or benefits etc. He has to "steal" at least 400 million to pay his debts. He knows nothing of the world, but only knows how to ruin an country. And the stupid ignorant people here still may elect him regardless of all his lying and cheating.

    Especially here inFL, I'm totally amazed that they still may help him in the saddle again, due to pure ignorance and stupidity.

    If he "wins" it will certainly not be honest; and if so, then this country deserves this "criminal" as well an "bankrupt country".

  • that guy in AZ
    11-03-2020 02:46:38 PM
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    Oops, he did it again. In his rush to garner votes across the U.S. before Election Day, Donald Trump has been showing his backers his true colors. He left supporters stranded for hours outside in cold weather following a campaign rally yet again, due to transportation issues. Shuttle buses intended to transport individuals from a rally location in Georgia to distant parking lots AGAIN were delayed, resulting in supporters being left high and dry while Trump conveniently left on Air Force One.

    “Some of the folks left stranded were older and disabled. Multiple people tried to hitch rides from strangers amid the pandemic,” tweeted Julie Tsirkin from NBC News, who was at the scene. She added that the only route in and out of the event location was a single, narrow road.

    Not only did Trump leave these people out in the cold as he boarded Air Force One, but he again failed to enforce COVID-19 safety measures (do these people know what social distancing is?). Not to mention, the lack of masks present. Trump’s events are proving to be superspreader events nationwide, with cases increasing significantly after each of his visits.

    On another note, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention are based in Georgia, the location for Trump’s latest maskless rally on Sunday.

    https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2020/11/2/1991841/-New-state-old-story-Trump-campaign-left-supporters-stranded-miles-from-their-cars-again?detail=emaildkre

  • Schmidt
    11-03-2020 05:34:01 PM
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    As we've discussed many times in this website, Trump has no empathy for anyone but himself. He is incapable of reciprocal feeling for his supporters the way they feel about him.

    We likewise have discussed the Trump supporter. Why would some of them endure such cold and windy conditions out on a tarmac to be able to shout, "lock him up" or "Fire Fauci, Fire Fauci"...or all the other stuff that stimulates their dark sides. Here's another article in Psychology Today:

    Davd Barash, PhD, Psychology Today: Social Psychology Sheds Light on the Troubles of Trump Supporters

    Barash cites cognitive dissonance. We discussed it many times here, but Barash goes so far as to compare some Trump supporters to members of the doomsday cult Heaven’s Gate who believed that the Hale Bopp comet would be followed by an alien spaceship that would rescue true believers such as themselves from imminent catastrophe.

    And the Marshmallow Test -- the ability and patience to not give into one's immediate "cravings". Kids at a young age that flunk the marshmallow test also become adults who exhibit the same lack of emotional control.

    Some Trump supporters are victims of obedience to authority. They may be predisposed but are happy to do whatever Trump asks them to do because they see Trump as their "authority". We've discussed that norm as well.

    Finally there is the The Frustration-Aggression Connection -- a deep connection between frustration and aggression. The most potent political appeals of candidate and now President Trump has been to the frustration of his followers: frustration that “their country” is being taken over by others who are ethnically, religiously, socially, and in various other ways different from themselves..

    I'll leave it at that.

  • Dutch
    11-04-2020 09:17:06 AM
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    Yes your "thread" says it all. But it does not help in this country, because most people here are uneducated and gullible as hell. Mary Trump has warned about all of this. However all of this does not help in an country with the blinders on and their love for FOX News and others who spew there dirt into the airwaves.

    Forget that this country ever will become "normal" again. Amen

  • that guy in AZ
    11-13-2020 01:30:06 PM
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    More than 130 Secret Service officers who help protect the White House and the president when he travels have recently been ordered to isolate or quarantine because they tested positive for the coronavirus or had close contact with infected co-workers, according to three people familiar with agency staffing.

    The spread of the coronavirus — which has sidelined roughly 10 percent of the agency’s core security team — is believed to be partly linked to a series of campaign rallies that President Trump held in the weeks before the Nov. 3 election, according to the people, who, like others interviewed for this report, spoke on the condition of anonymity to describe the situation.

    Trump went on a travel blitz in the final stretch of the campaign, making five campaign stops on each of the last two days. On Nov. 2, Trump’s campaign schedule required five separate groups of Secret Service officers — each numbering 20 to several dozen — to travel to Fayetteville, N.C.; Scranton, Pa.; Traverse City and Grand Rapids, Mich.; and Kenosha, Wis.; to screen spectators and secure the perimeter around the president’s events. President-elect Joe Biden made two campaign stops that day that also required Secret Service protection, but in smaller numbers.

    It’s not the first time the Secret Service has been hit hard by the decisions of Trump and Vice President Pence to travel during the pandemic. This summer, dozens of Secret Service agents fell ill or were sidelined and forced to quarantine in the wake of the president’s massive indoor stadium rally in Tulsa in June and the vice president’s subsequent trip to Arizona.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/secret-service-coronavirus-outbreak/2020/11/13/610eebcc-2539-11eb-8672-c281c7a2c96e_story.html

  • Dockadams
    11-13-2020 05:41:49 PM
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    Stanford study finds Trump rallies caused over 30,000 COVID cases, led to over 700 deaths

    ktvu.com/news/stanford-study-finds-trum...

    He and Pence don't care, neither one ever did.

  • that guy in AZ
    11-28-2020 07:37:20 AM
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    Once a deadbeat, always a deadbeat ..

    With just weeks until his presidency ends, several cities across the U.S. are still owed payments from Donald Trump's campaign for rallies he held, totaling hundreds of thousands of dollars.

    The Texas city of El Paso said this week that they will be hiring outside legal counsel as part of their fight to obtain more than $500,000 from Trump's team to cover the security and other costs from a rally held there in February 2019.

    The outstanding debt includes $470,000 in additional services provided by the local police and fire departments, as well as an additional $99,000 in late fees.

    Altogether, the unpaid bills total $850,000.

    This is not just an issue with Trump either. Several presidential candidates' campaign teams, including Barack Obama and Hilary Clinton's, have also not paid local governments for providing additional police down the years.

    The Arizona city of Tucson, who are owned $81,837 from a May 2016 Trump rally, confirmed the legal costs to sue Trump's team for the money would outspend what they are owed and instead plan to learn from their past going forward.

    "The City of Tucson was informed by the Trump campaign that it will not pay the 2016 bill. Our City Attorney determined that pursuing recovery through legal action would consume more taxpayer-funded resources than any likely recovery," Lane Mandle, Chief of Staff to the City Manager, told Newsweek.

    https://www.newsweek.com/trump-campaign-rally-debt-elpaso-albuquerque-1550737

  • Schmidt
    11-28-2020 08:52:52 AM
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    Yes this is typical of what Trump did as a "businessman" -- refusing to pays bills inviting lawsuits that were ultimately settled for considerably less than the face amount. He did it to everyone. From my blog article on Trump as a bad businessman: "He stiffed the workers and small companies who worked for him on those projects -- a dishwasher, a plumber, numerous waiters and bartenders, painters, a glass company and a carpet company, real estate brokers who sold his properties, and ironically, several law firms that once represented him in lawsuits."

    And now he is suing the state election boards for "election fraud" while he himself is the biggest fraud of the election year. His last gasp in clinging to the presidency is to claim Biden must "prove" that his 80 million votes were not illegally obtained...putting the onus on Biden to prove his made up bullshit conspiracy theories wrong. He wants to take his various debunked cases to the Supreme Court but they might not even hear them.

    Donald J. Trump

    @realDonaldTrump

    Biden can only enter the White House as President if he can prove that his ridiculous “80,000,000 votes” were not fraudulently or illegally obtained. When you see what happened in Detroit, Atlanta, Philadelphia & Milwaukee, massive voter fraud, he’s got a big unsolvable problem!

    This claim about election fraud is disputed

    8:56 AM · Nov 27, 2020·Twitter for iPhone

    In any case, though, the longer he fights in Twitter and public, the more money pours in from his supporters. That's what it always really is about for Trump -- follow the money. Those campaign contributions serve him well. I expect more rallies to keep the Trump cult energized and ready with their pocket books.

  • Dutch
    11-28-2020 12:58:33 PM
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    Even the recount in Wisconsin showed that actually Biden did get more votes than in the previous count. I guess Trump must have had another tantrum. Talking about "supporters" don't forget an lot of the "rich" are sticking with him because of the "tax cuts" so they keep sending him money, which then disappears in an huge "sinkhole" named Trump.

    And you still think this is an well run smart country? I have to run to get the barf bucket. bwwwwwwwrf

  • wwjd
    11-29-2020 12:02:42 AM
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    Schmidt Wrote:

    And now he is suing the state election boards for "election fraud" while he himself is the biggest fraud of the election year. His last gasp in clinging to the presidency is to claim Biden must "prove" that his 80 million votes were not illegally obtained...putting the onus on Biden to prove his made up bullshit conspiracy theories wrong. He wants to take his various debunked cases to the Supreme Court but they might not even hear them.

    Donald J. Trump

    @realDonaldTrump

    Biden can only enter the White House as President if he can prove that his ridiculous “80,000,000 votes” were not fraudulently or illegally obtained. When you see what happened in Detroit, Atlanta, Philadelphia & Milwaukee, massive voter fraud, he’s got a big unsolvable problem!

    This claim about election fraud is disputed

    8:56 AM · Nov 27, 2020·Twitter for iPhone

    In any case, though, the longer he fights in Twitter and public, the more money pours in from his supporters. That's what it always really is about for Trump -- follow the money. Those campaign contributions serve him well. I expect more rallies to keep the Trump cult energized and ready with their pocket books.

    What will be far far more interesting is which of the nine SC justices actually rule in Trumps favor..... Think about it, he brings a case before the SC claiming that millions upon millions of votes should be tossed out, maybe even claim entire state electoral votes should be switched to him,etc, etc. Then have one or more SC justices agree with him! Extremely unlikely that enough of them would agree to somehow invalidate the entire election, but there is high probability that 2-3 three of them would vote in favor of Trump, and somehow say they agree that there was overwhelming election fraud.

    Or.... Just as crazy. Trump's legal team argues: "as president Donald Trump is entitled to the benefit of the doubt", and by simply "Claiming" there was election fraud, as president, Donald Trump does not need to provide any evidence of fraud, it is "Assumed to be true" because he is president, thus the burden of proof is on Joe Biden to prove that Donald Trump's claims of fraud are invalid.

    Yeah its all a bit too crazy to consider, but this is Trump World, where the Earth happens to be flat, the moon landing was faked, Barack Obama wasn't born in the US, Hillary Clinton runs a pedo ring out of a Pizza Shop, Nazis were the real victims during WWII, and facts are just a figment of your imagination.

  • that guy in AZ
    01-22-2021 09:17:20 AM
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    Some of Trump's supporters planned to demonstrate at their state capitols to protest Biden's election.

    They were not very well attended, as evident by the picture below, which was taken in Albany, New York:

    Trump supporter Mark Leggiero, of Florida, N.Y., holds a banner outside the New York state Capitol objecting to the inaugurat

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