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    Although we have covered Trump's tweets in a variety of threads, an article in this morning's Al Jazeera points out how deranged Trump actually is.

    https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2019/11/navy-secretary-trump-tweet-formal-order-191124091027410.html

    Trump recently tweeted out his support for Navy Seal Edward Gallagher, who had been accused of a variety of war crimes. To his credit, Navy Secretary Richard Spencer said he does not consider a Twitter post by President Donald Trump an order and would need a formal order to stop a review of a sailor who could lose his status as a member of its elite SEAL commando unit.

    What I did not realize, before reading this article, is that the Navy had removed 154 Trident pins since 2011, which means the people involved could still be in the Navy, but would no longer be able to be called SEALS.

    Although JFK created the formal SEALS program in 1962, the origins of the unit actually goes back to 1942, when the United States Navy recognized the need for the covert reconnaissance of landing beaches and coastal defenses. As a result, the joint Army and Navy Amphibious Scout and Raider School was established in 1942 at Fort Pierce, Florida.

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    As a follow up to the AL Jazeera story, this morning's Washington Post indicates that Spencer WOULD follow Trump's order if he got one, but he does not consider a tweet to be an order. The Washington Post also said that Navy Secretary Richard V. Spencer denied reports that he threatened to resign after the president said he would reinstate the rank of an officer convicted of posing with the corpse of an Islamic State prisoner - but the Al Jazeera article said that he did.

    Both Al Jazeera and the Washington Post are rated as "left-center" bias by Media Bias/Fact Check, and I trust both sources.

    In my opinion, the best way to keep yourself from going crazy is to recognize that many articles (even ones by crazy right wingers) contain an element of truth, so don't lost a lot of sleep over contradictory "facts".

    If you're not already confused, the New York Times JUST REPORTED that Navy Secretary Richard V. Spencer, and the commander of the SEALs, Rear Adm. Collin Green, have said they will resign if Donald Trump follows through on his plan to reverse the Navy’s removal of a member of the elite team of commandos accused of war crimes, including killing an ISIS captive and threatening to kill other SEALs if they passed information about this to their superiors

    https://www.alternet.org/2019/11/new-york-times-reporters-stand-by-story-revealing-navy-secretary-spencer-threatened-to-resign-over-trump-plan-to-reverse-seals-punishment/?utm_source=push_notifications

    Here's this morning's commentary from the Washington Post:

    With Spencer’s firing, Trump has recklessly crossed a line he had generally observed before, which had exempted the military from his belligerent, government-by-tweet interference. But the Gallagher case illustrates how an irascible, vengeful commander in chief is ready to override traditional limits to aid political allies in foreign policy, law enforcement and now military matters.

    For Pentagon officials who have wondered whether Esper would have the backbone to resist Trump, Sunday’s events were troubling. The Pentagon, like the State Department under Mike Pompeo, is now overseen by an official whose overriding priority seems to be accommodating an impetuous boss in the White House.

    Trump began lobbying Spencer to exempt Gallagher from Navy discipline back in March, when he ordered the Navy secretary in an early-morning phone call to release Gallagher from the brig and give him more comfortable quarters. Presidential pressure has been relentless, ever since.

    While Gallagher is celebrated on Fox, current and former senior officers of the SEALs and other elite units told me this weekend that his case has little support within the community of Special Operations forces

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2019/11/24/firing-richard-spencer-trump-recklessly-crosses-another-line/

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    No other President ever interfered with the members of the armed forces. Trump again goes beyond his task as President.

    The Navy has got its own rules and counsel; again it shows abuse of power and should be made part of the "impeachment"

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    From the Arizona Daily Star:

    Defense Secretary Mark Esper on Sunday fired the Navy’s top official for allegedly proposing a deal with the White House behind Esper’s back to resolve the matter of a Navy SEAL whose case has been championed by President Donald Trump.

    On Wednesday the Navy had notified Gallagher that he would face a Navy SEAL review board to determine if he should be allowed to remain in the elite force.

    He was demoted from chief petty officer to a 1st class petty officer. Trump this month restored Gallagher’s rank.

    Esper on Sunday directed that Gallagher be allowed to retire at the end of this month, and that the Navy review board that was scheduled to hear his case starting Dec. 2 be cancelled, Hoffman said. At Esper’s direction, Gallagher will be allowed to retire as a SEAL at his current rank, Hoffman said. He said Esper had concluded that Gallagher could not, under the circumstances, receive a fair shake from the Navy, and thus should be allowed to retire.

    https://azdailysun.com/news/national/govt-and-politics/pentagon-chief-fires-navy-secretary-over-secret-deal-involving-seal/article_8e4777ff-b179-5b3f-bd70-f36c1e96e96d.html#utm_source=azdailysun.com&utm_campaign=%2Fnewsletter-templates%2Fbreaking&utm_medium=PostUp&utm_content=45a94b82f74e4877b12ff5f0b84f4d821d8882aa

    From the New York Times:

    Defense Secretary Mark T. Esper demanded the resignation of the Navy’s top civilian leader on Sunday, an abrupt move aimed at ending an extraordinary dispute between President Trump and his own senior military leadership over the fate of a SEAL commando in a war crimes case.

    Mr. Spencer had also provoked Mr. Trump’s ire by threatening to resign over the case and by publicly saying he disagreed with the president’s decision to intervene in favor of the commando, Chief Petty Officer Edward Gallagher, Defense Department officials said.

    Spencer’s resignation letter said this:

    “Unfortunately, it has become apparent that in this respect, I no longer share the same understanding with the commander in chief who appointed me, in regards to the key principle of good order and discipline. I cannot in good conscience obey an order that I believe violates the sacred oath I took.”

    https://www.nytimes.com/2019/11/24/us/politics/navy-secretary-richard-spencer-resign.html?auth=login-facebook&login=facebook&smid=nytcore-ios-share

    Mr. Trump was having none of it. On Thursday, he wrote on Twitter that “the Navy will NOT be taking away Warfighter and Navy Seal Eddie Gallagher’s Trident Pin.” He added: “This case was handled very badly from the beginning. Get back to business!”

    The president’s tweet further infuriated top Navy and SEALs leaders, and Mr. Spencer threatened to resign, Defense Department officials said. He told a number of Pentagon officials that he was willing to go to the mat over this, and it was under that belief that Mr. Esper and Gen. Mark A. Milley, the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, then went to Mr. Trump to ask him to allow the disciplinary process to go through.

    If you cut through all the bullshit, the bottom line is that Trump feels that he can do whatever he wants, and he becomes vindictive against public servants who feel that “good order and discipline” should be followed.

    From the Washington Post this morning:

    With Spencer’s firing, Trump has recklessly crossed a line he had generally observed before, which had exempted the military from his belligerent, government-by-tweet interference. But the Gallagher case illustrates how an irascible, vengeful commander in chief is ready to override traditional limits to aid political allies in foreign policy, law enforcement and now military matters.

    For Pentagon officials who have wondered whether Esper would have the backbone to resist Trump, Sunday’s events were troubling. The Pentagon, like the State Department under Mike Pompeo, is now overseen by an official whose overriding priority seems to be accommodating an impetuous boss in the White House.

    Trump began lobbying Spencer to exempt Gallagher from Navy discipline back in March, when he ordered the Navy secretary in an early-morning phone call to release Gallagher from the brig and give him more comfortable quarters. Presidential pressure has been relentless, ever since.

    Gallagher has become a hero in the Trump echo chamber of Fox News commentary, where he’s seen as a victim of vengeful SEAL commanders. While Gallagher is celebrated on Fox, current and former senior officers of the SEALs and other elite units told me this weekend that his case has little support within the community of Special Operations forces.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2019/11/24/firing-richard-spencer-trump-recklessly-crosses-another-line/

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    Everything Trump touches "dies"; again as I've said so many times, make an "operational" document (being part of the oath) for the present and future Presidents, which clearly describes the "limits" of what an President is allowed to do. By not doing so then this country is still living in the "wild west" days and super naive and surely will end up as an "dictatorship" a la Putin. Amen
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    It's probably just a coincidence, but the attorney representing Edward Gallagher also works for the Trump organization.

    Trump Organization lawyer Marc Mukasey started working on the case in recent months, according to sources familiar with the situation.

    Former NYPD Commissioner Bernard Kerik, a former business partner of Trump ally and former New York Mayor Rudy Giuliani, also is helping with Gallagher's case. Kerik, who once served three years in federal prison for charges including tax fraud and lying to officials, was nominated as homeland security secretary by President George W. Bush but withdrew from consideration due to potential tax violations.

    https://www.cnn.com/2019/05/24/politics/navy-seal-chief-eddie-gallagher-defense-team-trump/index.html?fbclid=IwAR0Vl8ASZ93MRDY5WS8Yv0GLghzLTEPel9OVZZFY74CIG_QON2O6I19IJD0

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    Everything Trump touches dies. Show some respect for our president...

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    Trump just retweeted a QAnon conspiracy theory to his 68,000,000 followers. According to the New York Times, Trump has retweeted at least 145 unverified accounts that have promoted conspiracy theories. More than two dozen of the accounts have been suspended by Twitter for violating the platform's rules.

    The QAnon theory centers around the belief that there is a covert plan to overthrow Trump, supposedly led by Hillary Clinton and the "deep state".

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/trump-retweeted-a-qanon-conspiracy-theory-hashtag-to-his-68-million-followers/ar-BBYoGbS?ocid=spartandhp

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    According to news on the web, Trump tweeted the name of the alleged whistleblower, took it down and then retweeted it again. Trump is dangerous and a menace to people because if anyone does something, assaults or kills the person/s he named, he (Trump) could be blamed for facilitating an assault or a homicide, why doesn't someone rein in this out of control idiot?
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    that guy in AZ Wrote:

    Trump just retweeted a QAnon conspiracy theory to his 68,000,000 followers. According to the New York Times, Trump has retweeted at least 145 unverified accounts that have promoted conspiracy theories. More than two dozen of the accounts have been suspended by Twitter for violating the platform's rules.

    The QAnon theory centers around the belief that there is a covert plan to overthrow Trump, supposedly led by Hillary Clinton and the "deep state".

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/trump-retweeted-a-qanon-conspiracy-theory-hashtag-to-his-68-million-followers/ar-BBYoGbS?ocid=spartandhp

    68,000,000 followers who vote 100% of the time. Time for plan B, C, or D. January of 2025 is a long time away.
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    TJ Wrote:
    that guy in AZ Wrote:

    Trump just retweeted a QAnon conspiracy theory to his 68,000,000 followers. According to the New York Times, Trump has retweeted at least 145 unverified accounts that have promoted conspiracy theories. More than two dozen of the accounts have been suspended by Twitter for violating the platform's rules.

    The QAnon theory centers around the belief that there is a covert plan to overthrow Trump, supposedly led by Hillary Clinton and the "deep state".

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/trump-retweeted-a-qanon-conspiracy-theory-hashtag-to-his-68-million-followers/ar-BBYoGbS?ocid=spartandhp

    68,000,000 followers who vote 100% of the time. Time for plan B, C, or D. January of 2025 is a long time away.
    TJ, I guess there is no "plan" B, C, D, at least the Dem's have no clue yet, what to do. Pelosi may have, but not the candidates.
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    Governing by tweet.

    Trump tweet to Iran: I'm letting you know Iran that I'm ordering a big bomb on your country, if you get this tweet after it's been dropped or fired, too bad.

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    Trump tweeted:

    "These Media Posts will serve as notification to the United States Congress that should Iran strike any U.S. person or target, the United States will quickly & fully strike back, & perhaps in a disproportionate manner. Such legal notice is not required, but is given nevertheless!"

    This is the way Trump conducts official business -- by public tweets. There has not been an official daily press briefing in some 300 days. Just a few impromptu Q/A sessions before his departures on the White House lawn. That and his speeches at his rallies, or clips of his conversations with Fox News media figures. But keeping the despised Congress informed? No way.

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    I absolutely don't understand that the GOP goes along with all of this; all the "rules" are broken; no more official briefings by the appropriate departments, let alone any planning or strategy sessions. He knows it all Mr Windmill.

    Make this also one of the "impeachable" offences.

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    If you've got them by the balls, their hearts and minds will follow -- Theodore Roosevelt was asked by an aide, Lt. Douglas MacArthur, in 1906 "to what he attributed his popularity." Roosevelt said, "To put into words what is in their hearts and minds but not in their mouths.

    After Twitter started labeling some of Trump's tweets, Facebook came under pressure to do the same.

    Shares of Facebook and Twitter both fell more than seven percent on Friday after Unilever PLC said it would stop US ads on Facebook, Instagram and Twitter for the rest of the year, citing "divisiveness and hate speech during this polarized election period in the US."

    Unilever, which owns brands like Dove soap and Lipton tea, and Japanese carmaker Honda Motor Co Ltd's US subsidiary both joined the growing ad boycott against Facebook as part of the "Stop Hate for Profit" campaign started after the death of George Floyd.

    In one day, Mark Zuckerberg's net worth fell by $7 billion, meaning he was no longer the third richest person on the planet.

    Facebook Inc said on Friday that it will start labeling newsworthy content that violates the social media company's policies, and label all posts and ads about voting with links to authoritative information, including those from politicians.

    A Facebook spokeswoman confirmed the company's new policy would have covered a link on United States President Donald Trump's post about mail-in ballots last month, to which Facebook's smaller rival Twitter affixed a fact-checking label.

    Chief Executive Mark Zuckerberg said in a live-streamed company town hall that Facebook would ban ads that claim people from groups based on race, religion, sexual orientation or immigration status are a threat to physical safety or health.

    https://www.aljazeera.com/ajimpact/pressured-growing-ad-boycott-facebook-label-posts-200626201324020.html

    More than 90 advertisers including Unilever's Ben & Jerry's, Verizon Communications Inc and The North Face, a unit of VF Corp, have joined the campaign, according to a list by ad activism group Sleeping Giants, a partner in the campaign.

    In a statement, a Facebook spokeswoman pointed to its civil rights audit and investments in Artificial Intelligence that allow it to find and take action on hate speech.

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    Over about 5 years, then I guess no one cares anymore what did happen in 2020; we will all be ready for the nut house and in the "nut" house.

    The rich will have no problems and did buy their private island a long time before. But yeah the poor uneducated masses will still live in tents on the sidewalks and the "kids" at the "border will by then be old enough to pluck fruits in FL/CA.

    Sure it will be "paradise" on earth for sure, the way things are going; by that time the rest of the world sees the US as any S. American country without any direction or planning as well an "dollar" which is then as much worth as an Deutsche Mark just after WWII. Forget "bridges" and other "infrastructure" it won't be there. This "island" will have only rusted "tanks", "ships", "fighter planes", and a "wall" with an "plaque" to show for sitting in the desert. Amen