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Donald Trump: From Bad Businessman to Worst President

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    Schmidt posted an excellent thread, using the title shown above, about emoluments a couple of years ago, but a news item popped up today that requires a broader response.

    In order to celebrate Labor Day, Trump is offering discounts on all the cheap Chinese-made shit he sells at the Trump Store. To me, this is simply WAY beyond tacky.

    Here's Trump's letter:



    Today is Labor Day!

    It’s a day when we recognize the contributions American Workers have made to the strength, prosperity, and well-being of our Nation.

    To celebrate these hardworking, American Patriots, President Trump has activated a HUGE sale on ALL merchandise from the Official Trump Store.

    There’s never been a better time to make your FIRST EVER purchase from the Official Trump Store. This could be your chance to get a beautiful Keep America Great Hat, our recyclable Trump Straws, or any of our BRAND NEW 2020 GEAR.

    For a limited-time-only, he’s activated a 10% OFF DISCOUNT on all of our merchandise in the Official Trump Store.

    Huge Labor Day Weekend Sale

    Just use coupon code: “JOBS10” to get 10% OFF your ENTIRE order.

    Remember, this discount is ONLY for top supporters like you, Thomas.

    This offer is only available to you for a limited time. Don’t wait. Place your order now. >>


    Team Trump 2020

    P.S. As always, everything is Made in America.

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    Arizona -- Thanks for the compliments on my 2017 article. I wrote it over two years ago and it is still valid today.

    Trump's open and repeated violations of the emoluments clause is especially dumb founding to many of us. He does it so brazenly in broad daylight daring anyone to call him out. If he manages to hold the G7 next year at his failing bed bug infested Florida Doral golf resort, then we can kiss the emoluments clause good-bye. It is useless to use against a president who knows he cannot be indicted while he is sitting as president.

    Here's a couple very recent Trip Advisor reviews on his Doral report hotel:

    "I’ve attended numerous conferences and it used to be a decent hotel. Lately, it’s seems rough around edges; dirty windows, worn carpets, beat-up wallpaper, staff slightly demoralized. It needs love. Employees are fabulous."

    "This was probably once a great property, but it starting to look pretty dated and basic and is not really keeping up with other properties. Apparently the revenues are down quite a bit which probably makes it difficult to invest in updates.
    Be aware that they tack on a lot of extra costs. Due to location, it's hard not to have their simple but still very expensive breakfast. Parking was expensive and the self-park is so far out a shuttle is needed. The property is only about 4 miles from the end of the MIA runways so expect noise as this is a very busy airport. Not the resort's fault, just a fact of the location.

    Feel bad for some of the staff who were nice but seemed overworked."

    Oh and all those products that he is selling above. Don't believe him when he said they are made in the USA. I suspect most are made in China. Another of his cons...

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    Trump's Turnberry resort in Scotland lost $4.5 million in 2017, but revenue went up by $3 million in 2018. That's because our military planes are now refueling at a commercial airport (Prestwick) close to the resort rather than at a military base, where fuel would be cheaper. In addition, the airport provided cut-rate rooms and free rounds of golf at Turnberry for U.S. military members.

    In early Spring of this year, an Air National Guard crew made a routine trip from the U.S. to Kuwait to deliver supplies.

    What wasn’t routine was where the crew stopped along the way: President Donald Trump’s Turnberry resort, about 50 miles outside Glasgow, Scotland.

    Since April, the House Oversight Committee has been investigating why the crew on the C-17 military transport plane made the unusual stay — both en route to the Middle East and on the way back — at the luxury waterside resort, according to several people familiar with the incident. But they have yet to receive any answers from the Pentagon.

    On previous trips to the Middle East, the C-17 had landed at U.S. air bases such as Ramstein Air Base in Germany or Naval Station Rota in Spain to refuel, according to one person familiar with the trips. Occasionally the plane stopped in the Azores and once in Sigonella, Italy, both of which have U.S. military sites, the person added.

    The revelation that an Air Force mission may have helped line the president’s pockets comes days after Vice President Mike Pence was pressed about his decision to stay at Trump’s property in Doonbeg, Ireland, despite its location hundreds of miles away from his meetings in Dublin. The Oversight Committee is also investigating Pence’s stay at the resort.

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    Mother Jones also provided a few additional details on the Turnberry resort:

    1) According to, the cheapest room at the resort can be booked next weekend for $286.

    2) The broader Congressional investigation into spending at Turnberry also includes an examination of an increase in military spending on fuel at the Glasgow Prestwick Airport, which is the airport most convenient to Turnberry. The airport, which is much smaller than Glasgow’s main airport, was purchased by the Scottish government in 2013 to keep it from closing, but Scottish newspaper the Daily Scotsman reports that it has continued to lose money. The US military has become the largest source of revenue for the airport. According to the Scotsman, sales of aviation fuel to the US military have dramatically increased since the start of the Trump administration, with US taxpayers shelling out more than $11 million dollars between October 2017 and March of this year. The paper revealed on Saturday that in the past six months an additional $5.9 million has been spent.

    The lodging looks a lot nicer than my Army barracks at Ft. Bragg, North Carolina

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    This seems to be the new norm...outrageous as it looks. Trump can do what he wants because he knows a sitting president cannot be indicted. And he knows that the Republicans will protect him from impeachment/removal from office. Oh and he has the pardon power for anyone found guilty of aiding and abetting this "unindicted criminal".

    I wonder how precarious his financial situation is. For someone ostensibly worth billions, he seems to be always looking for ways to pad his account, sometimes in petty ways. I'll bet he is in debt to his eye brows, and the only thing keeping creditors at bay is his holding the office of the presidency. Those creditors include Russian oligarchs. Once he leaves office he does not have the protection afforded a sitting president, although all former presidents do have limited secret service protection for life, except if they are removed from office.

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    Schmidt, shaking my old head. How many times I've said; don't blame Trump, but blame the antiques outdated system here which elected him. The system has been tested by him and shows how easy it is to become an "dictator". Checks and balances are long gone; Barr is now his own lawyer and not independent as the Constitution requires it to be. etc etc.

    As long as this country refuses to educate their citizens as well refuses to "vet" government top people as it should be, then it will continue as it is and will get only worse over time because of not having proper laws; neither laws about the "limits" of any President. Sorry the ship will sink for sure, if nothing is done about running an country the proper way.

    About his "money" don't worry he still gets the kickbacks from the "wall" which will be billions; why do you think he's fighting so hard to get the money for it? What about the slush funds he runs? Where is the money from the inauguration? He's got plenty of money coming from favors to certain people as well billionaires who pay back part of their gain on his fantastic "tax cut" to them. etc etc.

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    The History Channel (This Day in History) posted an article this morning that had some interesting parallels to today's society.

    It was on this day in 1974 that Gerald Ford pardoned Nixon in order to end the national divisions over Watergate. Widely condemned at the time, the John F. Kennedy Library Foundation in 2001 presented its 2001 Profiles in Courage Award to Ford for the 1974 pardon, citing his love of country over his political career.

    Ford, the first president who came to the office through appointment rather than election, had replaced Spiro Agnew as vice president only eight months before. In a political scandal independent of the Nixon administration’s wrongdoings in the Watergate affair, Agnew had been forced to resign in disgrace after he was charged with income tax evasion and political corruption.

    Once Trump is out of office, he is going to facing a whole litany of charges on both the state and federal level. It's POSSIBLE a future president could pardon him for some of those charges, but I think it's highly unlikely. It would please the MAGA crowd, but they are in a distinct minority in the country.

    The other link to today is Spiro T. Agnew, who was forced to resign due to exactly the same crimes that Trump is committing.

    During the 1968 presidential campaign, Agnew initially played the centrist, pointing to his civil rights record in Maryland. As the campaign developed, he quickly adopted a more belligerent approach (just like Trump) with strong law-and-order rhetoric, a style which alarmed the party's Northern liberals but played well in the South. John Mitchell, Nixon's campaign manager, was impressed, some other party leaders less so. Senator Thruston Morton described Agnew as an "asshole. Agnew's comments outraged many, but Nixon did not rein him in, since right-wing populism had a strong appeal in the Southern states.

    Starting in 1969, Agnew started attacking intellectuals, whom he called the effete snobs. Agnew thus put into words feelings that many Republicans and conservatives had long felt about the news media. Television network executives and commentators responded with outrage. Julian Goodman, president of NBC, stated that Agnew had made an "appeal to prejudice ... it is regrettable that the Vice President of the United States should deny to TV freedom of the press". Frank Stanton, head of CBS, accused Agnew of trying to intimidate the news media, and his news anchor, Walter Cronkite, agreed. The speech was praised by conservatives from both parties, and gave Agnew a following among the right.

    So if you are wondering where Trump got his ideas about "fake news", you'll need to go back about 50 years.

    (Eventually, the conservatives got their very own network. The Fox News Channel (FNC) is an American basic cable and satellite news television channel that was founded by media mogul Rupert Murdoch in 1996. Roger Ailes appointed himself as permanent CEO of the news operation in 2001. FNC (along with MSNBC) was created as a Republican-centered alternative to CNN. In January 2002, the ratings of the channel surpassed top-rated CNN to become the #1 news cable channel. The network has since maintained its #1 cable rating as of 2019 with increasing viewership and international access helping it became a subject of controversy.)

    In early 1973, when news of Agnew's bribes became public, he initially took the position that sitting vice presidents could not be indicted, * citing as precedent an 1826 investigation of vice president John Calhoun. Eventually, Agnew entered into negotiations for a plea bargain, but eventually resigned because he felt that he could not get a fair trial.

    * (The Justice Department today applies the same logic to presidents, which is why Robert Mueller did not indict Trump on 10 obstruction charges).

    Agnew submitted a formal letter of resignation to the Secretary of State, Henry Kissinger, and sent a letter to Nixon stating he was resigning in the best interest of the nation. Nixon responded with a letter concurring that the resignation was necessary to avoid a lengthy period of division and uncertainty, and applauding Agnew for his patriotism and dedication to the welfare of the United States

    A month or so, "the Mooch" predicted that Trump would resign in March of 2020. By that time, the House of Representatives will have completed their multitude of investigations, and Trump may feel compelled to resign in the best interest of the nation.

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    I'm not sure if this news is chutzpah, or just plain stupidity, but here it is:

    The House Oversight and Reform Committee is ALREADY investigating refueling stops at the remote Glasgow Prestwick Airport just 23 miles from Trump’s Turnberry resort in Scotland. Military personnel stayed nights at Turnberry, spending federal funds for lodging and food that went to the president’s company. In addition, the Oversight and Reform Committee is also looking at all other international refueling stops.

    As hard as this is to believe, a Defense Department agency is finalizing a new contract for continued stops at the airport into 2024.

    Prestwick’s refueling contract with the U.S. Defense Logistics Agency (DLA) is about to expire. Total payments to the airport since 2017 could total as much as $21 million by the time the contract ends, but the airport has a new, longer contract beginning Oct. 1 and running through the end of September 2024. The value is yet to be determined, but the new deal would involve supplying some 12.4 million gallons of aviation fuel — about 3 million more than the current deal.

    The Pentagon has so far refused to cooperate with chairman Elijah Cummings’ request for documents,


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    Is The Velveeta Vulgarian (props to TheFerret over at Democratic Underground) to blame? Of course he is. These are his actions, orders, suggestions and visions. Is he solely to blame? Not by a long shot. The frigging, lazy, bright shiny object electorate is to blame.

    Yes, I know...Russian interference, Hillary ran a lousy campaign, Comey, blah, blah, blah.

    40% of the electorate couldn’t be bothered to show up. Half of those that did were too phucquing lazy or racist or just blame too stupid to do the work that citizenship requires.a minimal amount of research would have shown how ridiculous the social disease known as Donald trump was.

    But, no, too busy with fake reality TV and D-list stars doing something stupid that had to be tweeted about.

    I give the country 50 years, max.

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    I'll give it less than that; 2020 will be the "last" chance to return to normal. If not then this country is doomed for sure.
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    When Pence was in Ireland, he and his entourage spent $600,000 on limos to go between Trump's resort on the west coast and Dublin:

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    that guy in AZ Wrote:

    When Pence was in Ireland, he and his entourage spent $600,000 on limos to go between Trump's resort on the west coast and Dublin:

    If you add up all the wasted expenses of Trump and his cronies then the "bill" is about 800 million by now and probably higher than that. But yeah if this country refuses to put limits on the expenses of the Romanov's then the sky is the limit.

    That is what you get if you install "dictators" instead of normal law abiding Presidents.

    The "deficit" only grows, but none of that wasted money ended up for the good of the country, let alone was spent on the "poor kids" in cages at the border, let alone for better education in this country.

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    To be honest, I would NEVER buy anything from the official Trump Store. However, as I mentioned in my latest post on the Hurricane Dorian thread, a LOT of people have done exactly that.

    Out of curiosity, I pulled up the official website to see what kind of merchandise this guy is peddling.

    A few of the items fall into the "are you kidding me?" category:

    $30 for a t-shirt

    $40 for a baseball hat

    $35 for 2 beer glasses

    $15 for a 10 pack of plastic straws

    $30 for a coffee mug

    $20 for a set of 4 PLASTIC CUPS*

    * If you Google "plastic cups", you'll find that they range in price from .21 to $1 per cup.

    I'm speechless.

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    Don't forget the Trump wine and golfballs etc. That is what you get if you have only an "emolument clause" but not an "emolument law" which exactly details the "limits" of any Presidential family while in office. But yeah they are too stupid to implement such. An brainless country for sure!!
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    Although all us criticize the current occupant of the White House, it IS true that he has set a number of records since he took office:

    Image may contain: 1 person, text that says 'Here are a few of the ACTUAL records Trump set for his first year in office: Most days vacationing. Most games of golf played. Least amount of bills signed. Lowest approval rating. Most provable lies told. Most cabinet resignations. Most criminal indictments. BLUE WAVE VOTERS'