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    In view of the fact that some of the right wing nut cases are saying that Jeffrey Epstein was actually murdered by associates of Bill Clinton due to the fact that Clinton allegedly had connections to him in the past, it's worth remembering that Trump, in 2016, said that Foster's suicide in 1993 was 'suspicious".

    Trump also said that Obama was born in Kenya, and that global warming is a hoax invented by the Chinese, so if you believe ANYTHING that he says, you just are not very smart.

    At any rate, the article below explains why conspiracy theories about Foster are absolute nonsense:

    vox.com/2016/5/25/11761128/vince-foster

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    Arizona, I already bet that the whole thing will be swiped under the carpet. Barr/Trump will make sure of that. I also wonder who got all the "data" out of his $ 5.5 million "living quarters" But yeah may be over 10 years we will maybe know the truth.
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    New York Daily News, August 12, 2019:

    FBI raids Jeffrey Epstein's private island in ongoing probe after his death

    Over a dozen FBI agents raided Jeffrey Epstein’s private island in the Caribbean on Monday. Who knows what they will find? However, Epstein also owns "a $77 million mansion on New York’s Upper East Side where he allegedly abused girls between 2002 and 2005, many of them in a massage room. Federal officials said as they sought to seize the posh pad following his arrest.

    "He also owned Little St. James in the U.S. Virgin Islands, complete with a deluxe compound, and recently acquired an adjacent island known as Greater St. James. And Epstein reportedly controlled a New Mexico property named Zorro Ranch previously valued at $12 million, a plush pad in Paris just steps from the Arc de Triomphe and a gated mansion in Palm Beach, Fla."

    I would guess that all of these properties will become targets of FBI probes if they haven't already. So the Epstein story will captivate audiences for years to come as bits and pieces of the FBI probes are leaked to the media. And where there are no leaks, the conspiracy theorists will take over and concoct and/or embellish the involvement of everyone from Trump to Prince Andrew to Bill Clinton and just about anyone else who ever came in contact with him.

    The story is just beginning...chapter 1. Stay tuned (glued) for the longest soap opera yet be unfolded. Where sex and slease is involved with powerful figures, Americans pay attention.

    My opinion...

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    I still bet that Trump is very much involved; thus Barr got the task to "hide" that involvement. Also I'm convinced that trump "ordered" Epstein's death, since the autopsy still did not give answers about how he got killed. Like you said it will be another "cover up" of the Trump "mob". Trump blames Clinton; which means, if he does that, it mostly means he himself did it.

    My opinion.

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    I certainly agree that there is a high likelihood that Trump is involved with Epstein in someway, but would not go so far as to say it included underage women. But whatever his involvement, he and Barr will work to suppress it while at the same time hammering away at Clinton for whatever innuendo the conspiracy theorists can push, perhaps with Russian help. Repetition of his false claims have a way of becoming mainstream. That's what Trump does.

    However, the investigations will be too widespread for Barr to effectively control the narrative. He will not have enough fingers and toes to stop all the leaks in the dike. The soap opera is just beginning.

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    New York just completed an autopsy on Epstein. Although a broken hyoid bone happens in suicide, it is more typical of death by strangulation.

    Epstein left an estate valued at $559 million, and there is already a rush to tap into that windfall.

    In view of his mysterious death, and the vast amounts of money in his estate, conspiracy theories on his death will continue for a long, long time.

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    that guy in AZ Wrote:

    New York just completed an autopsy on Epstein. Although a broken hyoid bone happens in suicide, it is more typical of death by strangulation.

    Epstein left an estate valued at $559 million, and there is already a rush to tap into that windfall.

    In view of his mysterious death, and the vast amounts of money in his estate, conspiracy theories on his death will continue for a long, long time.

    The "strangulation" says it all; I don't think any person can do that by himself if there is no "hook" or something to hang on with your feet of the ground. The only thing could be that he had some "help", guess who arranged that.
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    Most of us feel that it was very convenient that Epstein would commit suicide before he could implicate a number of highly influential people - Trump included.

    It's also an amazing coincidence that doctors in the U.K want to move Julian Assange to a hospital because they fear that he might die in prison. The 48-year-old, who spent seven years holed up in Ecuador's embassy in London before he was dragged out in April, is wanted in the United States to face 18 counts including conspiring to hack government computers and violating an espionage law. He could spend decades in prison if convicted.

    Assange is fighting a US bid to extradite him from the UK on charges filed under the Espionage Act that could see him given a sentence of up to 175 years in a US prison.

    https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2019/11/doctors-uk-authorities-julian-assange-die-jail-191125060147656.html

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    They arrested Ghislaine Maxwell today in New Hampshire; she was the "friend" of Epstein who arranged the under age girls for him etc. as well was assistant for other things. I just wonder, she's now only accused for "sex travelling" . The news says nothing about Epstein's activity's with Trump or Prince Andrew etc., nor anything about the murder"arranged" on Epstein. Let's hope she writes an book before she gets "wasted".

    I just wonder when Barr gets involved; if so then the people here should get suspicious for sure. Trump will make sure nothing of his "affairs" will see the light of day. Anyway, everything Trump touches "dies"

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    According to the Daily Mail,

    "Ghislaine Maxwell will be 'naming names' and 'fully co-operating' with the FBI, and Prince Andrew is among those 'very worried' about what she might reveal, a former associate of Jeffrey Epstein has claimed.

    "Maxwell's dramatic arrest on sex-trafficking charges yesterday has raised hopes among Epstein victims that prosecutors will untangle a 'spider web' of rich and powerful associates of the pair.

    "She is now awaiting transfer to New York to face charges of procuring girls as young as 14 for Epstein to sexually abuse - and could even be held in the same Manhattan jail where Epstein died last year. "

    Wow if she is going to cooperate with the FBI and start naming names, watch out for a "suicide" before she can spill the beans.

    In reading Sarah Kendzior's book, "Hiding in Plain Sight" Kendzior implicates Prince Andrew, Donald Trump and Alan Dershowitz as participants in Epstein's teen sex rings. She lists a court filing from 1994 of "Jane Doe versus Donald J. Trump and Jeffrey Epstein" from the United States District Court of the Southern District of New York. Jane Doe was listed as 14 years old at the time of the allegations. Here's an excerpt:

    "7. Plantiff [Jane Doe] was subject to acts of rape, sexual misconduct, criminal sexual acts, sexual abuse, forcible touching, battery, intentional infliction of emotional distress, duress, false imprisonment, and threats of death and/or serious bodily injury by the Defendants that took place at several parties during the summer months of 1994."

    "10. Defendant Trump initiated sexual contact with Plaintiff at four different parties. On the fourth and final sexual encounter with Defendant Trump, Defendant Trump tied Plaintiff to bed, exposed himself to Plaintiff, and then proceeded to forcibly rape Plaintiff."

    The lawsuit was dropped fours days before the election as the plaintiff was threatened and "terrified into silence".

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    I'm afraid if Barr gets involved, pushed by Trump, then it shows that there is lots to hide; therefore the Dem's should make sure she is protected, otherwise Trump will make sure she will be killed (or silenced) the same as he did with Epstein via, via. She should be put in front of an Congress inquiry group and should answer all the pertinent questions about Trump's involvement. If the FBI does it, I'm convinced they will do nothing because Barr (loyalist) and Trump will stop all info and stuff it under the carpet.

    She must know a lot for sure about Trump and others like Dershowitz etc. But I get the strong feeling that we hear nothing at all in the future, because of the criminal in the W.H.

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    She seems to have lots of recordings and tapes of what went on; I bet there must be some nice pictures of Trump doing his "Moscow thing" with underage girls at Epstein's place. Where are the tapes Putin doing it at your place? Why do we have to wait until 2021 to see those Epstein tapes as well?. Wake up America everything is swiped under the very expensive carpet in the W.H.
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    She's going to be transferred to an N.Y. Brooklyn jail with an bad reputation; they also had an"virus" patient there and lots of turmoil in that jail. It looks a bit like the Epstein saga all over again; like another "golden" opportunity to get "rid" of her or silence her.

    Likely "Trump/Barr will find another excuse how it happened. Shaking my old head; are people here really that "dumb" that they don't see what is happening here?

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    MSN: Fox News Edits Trump Out of Photo With Jeffrey Epstein and Ghislaine Maxwell at Mar-a-Lago

    Fox News, or rather the Trump Propaganda Network, ran a segment on Ghislane Maxwell with a photo of here, Epstein and Melania (before she was married to Trump). For some reason they edited Trump out of the photo, lest viewers might make an association of Trump with the pedophile. They left Melania in the photo.

    "The original photo, which is available online from Getty Images, shows Donald Trump, his then-girlfriend Melania (now the First Lady), Jeffrey Epstein, and Ghislane Maxwell. The photo was taken at Trump’s Mar-a-Lago club in Palm Beach, Florida on February 12, 2000. Twitter users were the first to spot the strange edit by Fox News."

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    Schmidt, what do you expect, it will be all lies and corruption until the election. Things will become as they do in any S.American country ; I'm not surprised.

    On the news; indeed Barr is going to visit Chislaine in her cell; just as I indicated, to threaten her if she discloses anything.

    Things are so predictable, but the Dem's are sound asleep.