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Now is not the time for bickering among the Democrats. We cannot afford to loose this election over something that happened over 40 years ago. There are enough issues of today to debate on. Representative Harris says V.P. Joe Biden voted for busing when she was a kid over 40 years ago, however after receiving her education, she chose to be a Prosecutor. She sent numerous black and brown men and boys to prison, instead of pushing for prison reform and rehabilitation. She had a platform in the Congress for years to also help get prison reform. We need to stick to the matter at hand and try to win this election, instead of tearing each other down. If all of the Democratic candidates are wounded and limping going into this election over pass history, Trump gets 4 more years in office. We are giving the Republican all kinds of ideas and talking points by beating up on our own.

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2019-06-29 12:39:44 AM

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Biden has a huge lead on all of them, including leads in ALL democraphic, men, women, afro-american, hispanics, asains, etc.

If they don't go after little cracks in Biden past, he will coast to the nomination without making an effort. IMO, he needs to be tested because Trump loves attacking people, and he has 50+ years of experience of breaking the back of others who can't handle his endless attacks, personal insults, and lying. If bidden is handed the democratic nomination without having to deal with friendly attacks, he won't be able to handle Trump's 24\7 meet grinder attacks by Trump's falsifying's Biden's record, such as

"Biden is a racist, look at his record, and the fact he has called black's 'n*ggers' his whole life. He said the word 'N*iggers', not me".....

Trump will not stop, and will use it an excuse use racist terms himself. His base would love to hear Trump use racist terms couched as examples from Biden's past. "I didn't call them N*iggers, It was Biden who call them N*ggers. I would never use the term N*iggers".... His base would rejoice in hearing him speak one of their favorite labels, and give him the thumbs up in finding ways to use so that it looks like he is blaming Biden for making him use it.... That is the daily attacks Biden has to be prepared for.

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2019-06-29 02:03:20 AM

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WWJD, I understand what you are saying but we don't need to give Trump the ammunition. Let his campaign dig it up but we should never feed them negative information to use against us.

wwjd

2019-06-29 03:07:40 AM

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Yes, what is going on is that the other candidates are nick-picking, and blowing up something extremely trivial in an effort to cause his popularity to drop. His so-called controversial comment was about having to politically work with racists that were elected congressmen because he had have no other option at that time in history; that was his point of his comment. The other candidates are attempting to make him look flawed so that he becomes less popular. They know Biden is not racist, ALL of them have publicly stated he has been a good leader in the civil rights movement, but he lacks the sensitively that comes from being minority who has lived with racism on a regular basis. In other words, they are suggesting he is an older white man who fully believes that racism is bad for the country, but he does not fully under the pain of racism because he never experienced it... that is their criticism.

Given that Biden has been in public service since the 1970, there is an endless supply to official records that can used against Biden by Trump. Biden is simply guilty for doing the best he could at any given time throughout his career. In politics, people are never forgiven for making a poor decision based on hindsight. Bidden could have 95% great record, and Trump will turn the tables making that imperfect 5% appear to be as if Biden spent his entire political career screwing up. If Biden made common error of calling a adult women a "girl", Trump could make it seem that Biden has an sexual obsession with underage girls... It really doesn't matter how trivial an error, Trump will taken it an turn it into a huge story that 99.999% false. Trump just needs a microscopic grain of something, and he will turn it into the biggest pile of scrap anybody has ever seen. Example:

Press to Trump: "Biden said he loves going to baseball games and having a good, American made, hot dog."

Trump: "The truth is Biden is gay, and what he is saying is a coded message to the gay men that he wants to meet them in the men's rest room at the next baseball game so he can give them blow jobs. He is not talking about hot dogs, he is talking about hot you-know-what. That is what he is really saying, he is sending coded messages to gays all the time because he is secretly gay. Look at his tweets and public statements, they're all coded messages. There all about sex, he is obsessed with gay sex. Read them yourself, their all sick coded messages about gay sex!"

It does not matter what the topic, Trump can turn anything into garbage instantly without even thinking about it.

Sorry... I digress.

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2019-06-29 09:01:39 AM

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wwjd, yes I agree with you. Biden is not yet used to getting attacked by an "woman", let alone by an "mobster" like Trump. I'm afraid that he can't handle that. Sorry to say that very few candidates (actually none) have had "mob" training and knows how it works in the Trump "mafia"

May we should start an school on how to learn to "bully" and learn to counteract "bullying". As well how to treat an "baby" like Trump, who only has been "spoiled" all his life and never had to "work" for a living, let alone knows how to buy groceries. Daddy give me please another $400 million, otherwise I'll get an "tantrum"

Yes you need "training" for that, because he's not "normal"

Tippy

2019-06-29 03:54:46 PM

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I have said all along that Trump is a mobster (Russian mobster). If you notice everyone who starts out opposed to him ends up following him around like a sick puppy. Lindsey Graham turned on his best friend John McCain for Trump. The entire Senate is afraid of him. He goes into a room with them and they come out possessed. Either he has something on them or he's the devil.....lol. Although Mrs. Harris is a tough cookie we need to be realistic. Even if she wounds Biden and gets the nomination she will never win the election. With all of the racial issues Trump has stirred up in this nation, she will not get the votes she needs to win the election. What she may do is cripple the one person who can get the votes and get Trump out of the White House, so this nation can return to some kind of sanity. My biggest fear is that we will nominate someone who will not get the votes. When her background starts coming up about her time as a prosecutor and AG, she is going to loose some of the African American votes she so desperately needs. She was not a saint when it comes to civil rights as a prosecutor. She put away a lot of the people she is now expecting to support her. Like I said previously, she was never concerned about civil rights until she started running for president. I will support whomever the democratic nominee is but race should have been left out of this equation.

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2019-06-30 06:35:42 AM

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Like her or hate her, there is a high probably that Harris is going to be one of few remaining this time next year. And if Biden wins the nomination, there is a reasonable chance he will select her as a running mate, but I don't think she would be his first choice, but might chose her as VP because politically together they would have a lock on black and minororty vote and a large percentage of the women vote.

....It's a very long time before the DNC, and Trump is likely to do whever he can to screw with democratic using as many dirty trick he can to undermine the candidates that scare him the most. I think Trump is more scared of Harris than Biden because she is a person he can't intimidate.

Tippy

2019-06-30 04:26:19 PM

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WWJD, I agree with you 100%.

Schmidt

2019-07-01 01:02:20 AM

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I agree that we should focus on the issues, although the separation between the candidates is less than the chasm between them and Trump. Nevertheless, the lead up to the primary elections is a time for vetting, and if some past issues will be fodder for Trump then it is best to get them out of the way now. Bernie Sanders for one has a lot of past baggage that has yet to be brought out, and I'm sure Trump and Republicans are just waiting and hoping he is the nominee.

I'm still of the view that the ultimate candidate must appeal to independents and moderate Republicans. Too far left and we could lose.

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2019-07-01 07:55:53 AM

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Schmidt Wrote:
I agree that we should focus on the issues, although the separation between the candidates is less than the chasm between them and Trump. Nevertheless, the lead up to the primary elections is a time for vetting, and if some past issues will be fodder for Trump then it is best to get them out of the way now. Bernie Sanders for one has a lot of past baggage that has yet to be brought out, and I'm sure Trump and Republicans are just waiting and hoping he is the nominee.
I'm still of the view that the ultimate candidate must appeal to independents and moderate Republicans. Too far left and we could lose.

While I like Sanders to some degree because he truly wants to help those who need help, but he is too far to the left to ever become president. There is a good chance he will be offered a high level appointment in a democratic administration to help push through some progressive programs. He is a very determined person, and likely could get a good things done.

Sorry to those who love Bernie, it is extremely unlikely he will ever become president.... But, then again, I would have bet everything I owned that Donald Trump would never have become president. From my perspective, voting for trump was like voting for the sleazy car salesman that appears on TV saying "Come on in, I have a sweet deal for you, for just $1 down, you can have any car on the lot. That's it, just $1 and any car is yours today!!!".... Who believes that BS? Most don't, but enough people do that they sign contracts for 18% interest loans that is compounded daily for inflated values on cars that practically are falling apart as the buyer drives off the lot. Trump loves those kind of deals, and most importantly, he understands how to sucker those people into voting for him, even if they have been ripped off by him before; they come back for more, and he rips them off again and again, and they still keep coming back.

Dutch

2019-07-01 09:08:04 AM

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wwjd, Trump follows the Hitler doctrine nothing else; he loves "dictators" and want to be the same and mingles with them.

The same as happened in Germany; the opposition did not have an chance of winning. He's got the same message and big mouth as Hitler. So the only thing I can say : Watch out America you are being taken to the "cleaners"

Tippy

2019-07-01 09:16:24 PM

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I must agree with Dutch, we are being taken to the cleaners. The only reason I am worried about Harris becoming the nominee is that she has so much negative baggage that hasn't been brought out yet. I can see Trump lurking in the background hoping that the nominee is her. I can see him bringing up her prosecutor days where she was not very fair to minorities who came before her, as well as her having an affair with her married colleague. She may have a harder time than she thinks getting the African American votes because of how she tried blacks in the past. I don't know much about Bernie Sanders so I can't speak on him. Elizabeth Warren seems to be a very good candidate however I am not sure that America will elect a woman. You can bet your bottom dollar that Trump has gathered negative information on them all because that is how he controls his opponents through fear. Look at our U.S. Senate, they are deathly afraid of him. I don't know what hold he has on them but they are literally afraid of this man. I am just worried that we will have 4 more years of Trump. That is why I said each time the dems attack each other they are giving Trump fuel and research information to defeat them. They are making his job so easy by destroying each other from the inside.

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Tippy -- You make a very good point about Trump having "negative information" on many of the Republican members of Congress as well as Democrats. I cannot understand the 180 degree change in Lindsay Graham, for example...once a Trump critic and now seemingly his No. 1 supporter. I also wonder how much he has been helped by Russian spying on members of Congress...part of his Putin Pact if one wants to delve into conspiracy theories. One thing is sure, Trump and Republicans will make this election about smut, real and fake. They cannot win if the election is about issues.

The only other explanation for unwavering Republican support for Trump gets into the psychological behavior of our minds.

Psychology Today: A Complete Psychological Analysis of Trump's Support

The author lists 14 traits of Trump supporters, and it only takes one to become one. So stereotyping the Trump supporter is difficult. Many Republican members of Congress could be categorized by one or more of the traits.

wwjd

2019-07-02 02:47:56 AM

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