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    Looking at the total picture and the "weakness " with the Democrats ( the interview with the campaign manager of Trump ("dowsky") showed that they are an bunch of amateurs. Let alone of course the interference of the GOP idiots who attended.

    Sorry people "chaos" is the word; the Dem's are not advancing in any of their investigations, because Trump is an "master" in obstruction. So the only way things can improve is getting the "votes" in 2020. However since I've still not seen an real plan for the future which covers and corrects all the stupidity in governing as well bringing our laws up to date into the 20th century, then the chaos will continue.

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    The October debate will be on October 15, but it may run on 2 nights.

    This time, 11 candidates have qualified, and one of them is Tom Steyer, who had not qualified previously.

    https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2019/9/12/20859539/democratic-debate-october-2019

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    that guy in AZ Wrote:

    The October debate will be on October 15, but it may run on 2 nights.

    This time, 11 candidates have qualified, and one of them is Tom Steyer, who had not qualified previously.

    https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2019/9/12/20859539/democratic-debate-october-2019

    I'd almost prefer it broken into two nights and having 5-6 debaters on stage each night. And instead of a random drawing, it should be the top five one night and the bottom 5-6 the other. I want to see more substantive discussions/debates that are longer than 30 second soundbites.
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    If I didn't get free daily updates from the Boston Globe, my knowledge about Rhode Island would be non-existent.

    What I did not know was that Democratic Governor Gina Raimondo, who was in Chicago this past week for a taping of "The Axe Files" with Obama's chief strategist David Axelrod, is the chair of the Democratic Governor's Association.

    Raimondo and Axelrod agreed that US Senator Elizabeth Warren is now the front runner to be the Democratic nominee for president, but she repeated her concern that some of Warren’s views may not play well in a general election nationally.

    “I worry about free this, free that, Medicare for all,” Raimondo said.

    Even though she'll still have trouble attracting voters in the "Cracker Barrel" counties, I still think that Warren will be our next president. As we get closer to election day, she will tone down her message a bit to make it more palatable to more voters. More importantly, the GOP is going to continue to implode, which will finally wake up enough people to the fact that the only sane vote is one that is not for a Republican.

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    Forget Warren; it is going to be Hillary "2". This country is not "ripe" for an woman as President; all the "evangelicals" will be against it; women should be raising their breed and stick to the "cooking" and "house cleaning" according to them.

    Her "medicare" for all does not work; an total government run program will end up in "corruption/inefficiency" all over the place. Private insurance should have an place especially for the "well to do" people. It is doomed to fail, if there is no competition.

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    that guy in AZ Wrote:

    If I didn't get free daily updates from the Boston Globe, my knowledge about Rhode Island would be non-existent.

    What I did not know was that Democratic Governor Gina Raimondo, who was in Chicago this past week for a taping of "The Axe Files" with Obama's chief strategist David Axelrod, is the chair of the Democratic Governor's Association.

    Raimondo and Axelrod agreed that US Senator Elizabeth Warren is now the front runner to be the Democratic nominee for president, but she repeated her concern that some of Warren’s views may not play well in a general election nationally.

    “I worry about free this, free that, Medicare for all,” Raimondo said.

    Even though she'll still have trouble attracting voters in the "Cracker Barrel" counties, I still think that Warren will be our next president. As we get closer to election day, she will tone down her message a bit to make it more palatable to more voters. More importantly, the GOP is going to continue to implode, which will finally wake up enough people to the fact that the only sane vote is one that is not for a Republican.

    More hopes and prayers I see.

    Cracker Barrel counties? It wasn't the number of votes that doomed Mrs. Clinton, it was the electoral college. Besides, I've never lived predominantly in the south, I was stationed at a air force base in southern Illinois for 2 years and lived in KCMO for 4 years, yes, I like biscuits and gravy, chicken fried steak, and bourbon whiskey, but I think we shouldn't be bad rappin' the south except where it matters. Dinging Cracker Barrel isn't fair here, they do have not bad foods, compared to some greasy spoon diners in Chicago and Milwaukee. If you want to ding southern hillbillies, for their ignorance and lack of educated voters, by all means, be my guest.

    Trump could kill 15 whistleblowers and the uneducated trump voters would say they had it coming, and still vote for him.

    I don't see a clear frontrunner on the democrat side yet. People are holding their noses because our candidates stink. Besides that, with Sanders' heart attack, Chuck Todd reminded us that 4 of our candidates are aged. We need a democrat silver bullet tonto.

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    Dockadams Wrote:
    that guy in AZ Wrote:

    If I didn't get free daily updates from the Boston Globe, my knowledge about Rhode Island would be non-existent.

    What I did not know was that Democratic Governor Gina Raimondo, who was in Chicago this past week for a taping of "The Axe Files" with Obama's chief strategist David Axelrod, is the chair of the Democratic Governor's Association.

    Raimondo and Axelrod agreed that US Senator Elizabeth Warren is now the front runner to be the Democratic nominee for president, but she repeated her concern that some of Warren’s views may not play well in a general election nationally.

    “I worry about free this, free that, Medicare for all,” Raimondo said.

    Even though she'll still have trouble attracting voters in the "Cracker Barrel" counties, I still think that Warren will be our next president. As we get closer to election day, she will tone down her message a bit to make it more palatable to more voters. More importantly, the GOP is going to continue to implode, which will finally wake up enough people to the fact that the only sane vote is one that is not for a Republican.

    More hopes and prayers I see.

    Cracker Barrel counties? It wasn't the number of votes that doomed Mrs. Clinton, it was the electoral college. Besides, I've never lived predominantly in the south, I was stationed at a air force base in southern Illinois for 2 years and lived in KCMO for 4 years, yes, I like biscuits and gravy, chicken fried steak, and bourbon whiskey, but I think we shouldn't be bad rappin' the south except where it matters. Dinging Cracker Barrel isn't fair here, they do have not bad foods, compared to some greasy spoon diners in Chicago and Milwaukee. If you want to ding southern hillbillies, for their ignorance and lack of educated voters, by all means, be my guest.

    Trump could kill 15 whistleblowers and the uneducated trump voters would say they had it coming, and still vote for him.

    I don't see a clear frontrunner on the democrat side yet. People are holding their noses because our candidates stink. Besides that, with Sanders' heart attack, Chuck Todd reminded us that 4 of our candidates are aged. We need a democrat silver bullet tonto.

    I still think Tom Steyer will have a chance he at least got the right idea's and is not living in fantasy land and has the money to beat Trump. Trump raised at least 125 million; the highest candidate at the Dem's raised about 25 million, so think about that people.
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    Dock, This just in.... The electoral college is still in effect. We can get 9 million more votes but if we don't get enough states, we are screwed. It astounds me that the Democratic party won't try to communicate with all of the states that voted Red in 2016. I understand it's deeply ingrained in them to think and vote in predictable patterns but if we're going to lead all citizens why not try to find some common ground on some topics ? We should try to reach out and try to flip 4 or 5 to our side. Our strategy last time was a loss. It's not a popularity contest.

    I like Elizabeth Warren a lot. Sadly too much of this country is misogynist minded. She isn't a bad candidate at all but you need to win voters over. Too soon perhaps. The tax plan hits the wealthy as it should. She would have dozens of Billionaires contributing to her competitor.

    The only chance is a massive grassroots effort. To get huge numbers of new voters and massive numbers of existing voters to actually show up and vote.

    It's vital that Democrats don't lose again.

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    TJ Wrote:

    Dock, This just in.... The electoral college is still in effect. We can get 9 million more votes but if we don't get enough states, we are screwed. It astounds me that the Democratic party won't try to communicate with all of the states that voted Red in 2016. I understand it's deeply ingrained in them to think and vote in predictable patterns but if we're going to lead all citizens why not try to find some common ground on some topics ? We should try to reach out and try to flip 4 or 5 to our side. Our strategy last time was a loss. It's not a popularity contest.

    I like Elizabeth Warren a lot. Sadly too much of this country is misogynist minded. She isn't a bad candidate at all but you need to win voters over. Too soon perhaps. The tax plan hits the wealthy as it should. She would have dozens of Billionaires contributing to her competitor.

    The only chance is a massive grassroots effort. To get huge numbers of new voters and massive numbers of existing voters to actually show up and vote.

    It's vital that Democrats don't lose again.

    And as Dutch pointed out either in this thread or another, Trump raised $125M while democrat candidates all together probably didn't even raise that amount of money. Democrats need some heavy donors, and billionaires are not on their side when the candidates start talking about free everything, because that means democrats will be taxing the wealthy to pay for all that free stuff.

    I like Warren too, she has some good ideas on some things. But, this country is still living in the past, they think women should spend their time at home raising kids and slaving over a hot stove. The more we think we have progressed, we end up with a turd running our country.

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    Dock:

    You're correct. Not counting the candidates who have dropped out, the TOTAL raised by ALL of the remaining candidates is $75 million - and Trump has raised $125 million.

    Ugh.

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    TJ said:”It astounds me that the Democratic party won't try to communicate with all of the states that voted Red in 2016.”

    I wonder how much DNC planning is effected by people planning and waiting on spending those campaign funds. There are people, talented, greedy, and opportunistic people that take advantage of campaign spending to benefit their own self interest. Election campaign audits focus on incoming money. Not that much on spending accounting. Stories were plentiful about Hillary’s campaigners looking out for themselves.

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    Again looking at the whole picture; then it does not look rosy at all. Biden is in the shit with the Ukraine story; Bernie had an heart attack, Warren is an woman ( the country is not ripe for that); then we have the rest who barely make an impression, while Trump is now already posting campaign adds on TV. Also where is the "impeachment" going? The "blockage" by the Trump clan for "info" or getting the "facts" for impeachment, may take forever. So who will be the one who can get Trump on his knees? Sorry it will be an long cold winter and crazier than ever.

    My only hope is that Tom Steyer moves to the foreground; he's got the "money" to fight Trump, provided he gets the right people (with expertise) to move the country into the right direction.

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    What's interesting about the Democratic funding is that the oldest candidate (Bernie) gets the majority of his money from young people.

    The youngest candidate, mayor Pete, gets the majority of his funding from the older crowd.

    Joe Biden gets very little support from younger voters.

    Based on the chart in the article below, the candidates who apply to the broadest part of our society are Elizabeth Warren and mayor Pete.

    Trump, of course, has out raised everybody, but that's no guarantee of victory due to the fact that he has LOTS of baggage.

    I'm looking forward to tomorrow's debate.

    https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2019/10/14/us/politics/democrats-political-facebook-ads.html?action=click&module=Top%20Stories&pgtype=Homepage

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    I saw part of the discussions last night; sorry but it was terrible. It looked like an bunch of dumb little kids. Warren absolutely has no clue about healthcare, neither does Bernie. None of them dare to look at other countries where it works at half the cost. Island mentality I guess. Also an total one sided show; only the three on"top" received questions and got the most time. Tom Steyer got only twice a question and did not get any chance, while sticking up his hand to reply on something; an very one sided useless performance from the moderators.

    Looking at all of this, then none are suited to become President; may be with the exception of Major Pete.

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    On CNBC they were very upset with the Warren performance. They said that the stock market would plunge at least 25 to 30 percent if Warren would be elected.

    Of course it is stupid to discuss taxing the rich in this stage; you will loose lots more voters as well the "rich" will drop much more money into the Trump campaign. Where are the brains? If you want to increase the taxes on the rich do it while you are elected into the W.H. and don't talk about it now.