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    Right now I have the impression the Dem's have thrown in the towel; nothing achieved until now: No unredacted Mueller report, no "tax returns", nothing on the subpoena's, nothing on anything they want. Yes, people that is what you get if there are no decent laws here; total dictatorship is around the corner. Pelosi has already given up and just awaits the election results; and claims Trump will self destroy; however I've not seen anything which leads to it.
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    That's a rather pessimistic outlook. Trump is in the process of "self impeaching" by his obstruction of Congress's mandate to do oversight. It might eventually get to the Supreme Court, but my expectation is that Justice Roberts will follow the Constitution and not rule with Trump and his fascist cronies.

    Nadler said it right when he characterized the Trump legal team as basically saying that Congress has no authority to do oversight on the President because he cannot be indicted. That is a falsehood and every legal scholar knows that.

    Justice will be served. You just gotta have hope. Happy

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    Schmidt Wrote:

    That's a rather pessimistic outlook. Trump is in the process of "self impeaching" by his obstruction of Congress's mandate to do oversight. It might eventually get to the Supreme Court, but my expectation is that Justice Roberts will follow the Constitution and not rule with Trump and his fascist cronies.

    Nadler said it right when he characterized the Trump legal team as basically saying that Congress has no authority to do oversight on the President because he cannot be indicted. That is a falsehood and every legal scholar knows that.

    Justice will be served. You just gotta have hope. Happy

    I guess you forget that the head of "justice" is Barr; Kavanaugh and Gorsuch will help also a lot; Trump tramples every law there is and no one cares or does something; that is the picture I get. So just like you, I hope that there is an miracle, but it will likely be an wet dream,Crying knowing how the "mafia" works.

    l.php

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    To borrow a phrase from scripture, it's always the darkest just before dawn.

    Martin Luther King advised us that justice may come slowly - but it will come.

    “The moral arc of the universe bends at the elbow of justice.”

    Even though many of his thoughts are now more than 50 years old, they are still very applicable in today's society. I'd recommend reading all of them, but here's a few that are especially good:

    "Science investigates; religion interprets. Science gives man knowledge, which is power; religion gives man wisdom, which is control. Science deals mainly with facts; religion deals mainly with values. The two are not rivals.”

    “Nothing in all the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity.”

    “When you are right you cannot be too radical; when you are wrong, you cannot be too conservative. ”

    “The soft-minded man always fears change. He feels security in the status quo, and he has an almost morbid fear of the new. For him, the greatest pain is the pain of a new idea.”

    The more there are riots, the more repressive action will take place, and the more we face the danger of a right-wing takeover and eventually a fascist society.”

    It may be true that the law cannot make a man love me, but it can keep him from lynching me, and I think that’s pretty important.”

    “Never forget that everything Hitler did in Germany was legal.”

    “In our glorious fight for civil rights, we must guard against being fooled by false slogans, as ‘right-to-work.’ It provides no ‘rights’ and no ‘works.’ Its purpose is to destroy labor unions and the freedom of collective bargaining… We demand this fraud be stopped.”

    https://www.democratichub.com/posts/16534/default?em=rp&rplid=109264

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    Arizona, nice piece; Rome said the same thing 2000 years ago. Thus "justice" may come slowly", but it will come, is an beautiful statement. But if in the meantime this country goes completely down the drain; then after that we will be struggling to her-rise from the ashes. Also the the statement in your thread: "never forget that everything Hitler did in Germany was legal". Trump and Barr think the same way. Thus as I've said a million times; it is our "convoluted non-laws" which is the noose around our necks; a"zillion lawyers" make sure of it. Therefore it is nice to have all kinds of "platforms" by our candidates, but they all will fail, if our laws are not reviewed and adapted to the times as well strict laws about the limits of our leaders as well stringent "honest" election laws/changes without an electoral college and "money".

    If not, no justice will come; not even slowly. Amen

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    Dutch Wrote: Right now I have the impression the Dem's have thrown in the towel; nothing achieved until now: No unredacted Mueller report, no "tax returns", nothing on the subpoena's, nothing on anything they want. Yes, people that is what you get if there are no decent laws here; total dictatorship is around the corner. Pelosi has already given up and just awaits the election results; and claims Trump will self destroy; however I've not seen anything which leads to it.

    I think your frustration has more to do with many Democrats wholly unrealistic expectations after retaking the House than anything else. I fear that many liberals convinced themselves that retaking the House meant a new era of liberal lawmaking was imminent when the reality is far messier.

    Speaker Pelosi's biggest sticks are the power of the purse and the power to investigate the Trump Administration. She can leverage her power of the purse (refuse to sign off on a budget bill/withhold funding from certain departments) to force the Administration to cooperate with their investigations, but if you're waiting for her to waive a magic wand and enact every piece of progressive legislation into law then you're going to be sorely disappointed.

    That's not how things work in our system no matter how frustrated it makes you.

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    Jared, You describe exactly that the way it is, thus can't be changed; then you know the results; Pelosi's "purse" will not work, unless you have the power to stop paying for Airforce one (as well all other planes) and transport and "security" for all trips/outings of Trump/Pence/Barr/Pompeo/Bolton etc. As well all the bills which come from Mar-a-Lago.

    But yeah, I don't see her do this. Let alone bring "handcuffs" for Barr. You can't make forever"subpoenas" or "contempt" letters and then what? Lock them up in the cellar of the White House? Going the "legal" way is an disaster if all the "judges" are "bought" by Trump.(he "earned?" $424 million in 2018; playing golf? So he got plenty of money to throw around) So make a guess how it all ends. The way the picture looks to me, not an good end at all.