Forum Thread

New idea from the GOP for voter suppression

Reply to ThreadDisplaying 1 - 15 of 25 1 2 Next
  • Are you sure you want to delete this post?
        

    From Facebook:

    Asshole of the Day - Texas State Senator Bryan Hughes, whose new bill, Senate Bill 9, will disallow driving of elderly, disabled, or poor people to the polls… DISALLOWS bringing more than 3 people with you now… so these massive efforts with vans full of elderly from nursing homes, or vans full of disabled people, or vans full of poor people who don’t have cars, will now be disallowed in Texas… and any voter that needs assistance like voting curbside, which has been a way to service vulnerable voters, there can only be three at a pop... if they can’t get up and come in on their own, then there can’t be more than 3 of them at a time… imagine the sick cruel calculating mind that comes up with these tactics to hinder voting by vulnerable groups… THIS is Republican voter suppression at is ugliest and most abusive… and most discriminatory… this Republican power era emboldens actual legislation of ideas that otherwise would be shamefully embarrassing to admit you even thought of.... every day in every red state, it is a horrifying Whack-A-Mole game of democracy-killing laws being put on the books... the horror with this round of the game is that we aren't even allowed to Whack em...

  • Are you sure you want to delete this post?
        

    I was not able to find the underlying source for this article, so am just pasting in an article that I received in my email about vote suppression.

    Many of you already know who Thomas Hofeller is, and his work promoting voter suppression. Fortunately, his estranged daughter brought his work to light after his death. Although there has been some progress in reversing voter suppression, there also have been some laws passed that make it worse.

    Surprisingly, there HAS been progress in Arizona, largely due to the fact that the Secretary of State is a Democrat.

    "Democratic Secretary of State Katie Hobbs has settled a lawsuit that will make it much easier for Arizonans to keep their registration up-to-date. The agreement provides that the state Department of Transportation will automatically update a voter's registration when they update their address during driver's license transactions. Voting advocates had previously filed a lawsuit arguing that Hobbs' GOP predecessor was violating federal law by refusing to update these registrations, but Hobbs' 2018 election win paved the way for this settlement."

    Florida went backwards.

    Kentucky went backwards.

    North Carolina is in flux.

    Texas is in flux.

    Wisconsin is in flus

    Nevada is in flux

    New Jersey is heading in the right directon.

    https://outlook.live.com/mail/0/inbox/id/AQMkADAwATZiZmYAZC04YTBiLTEyYTYtMDACLTAwCgBGAAADpqG04fTX00KKsFUU3Y8pVAcA5lKaVemBxkqBRuAA9YyB%2FgAAAgEMAAAA5lKaVemBxkqBRuAA9YyB%2FgADC%2B3V4AAAAA%3D%3D

  • Are you sure you want to delete this post?
        

    Dutch's post is the 6th thread related to voter suppression, and the first thread goes back to 2012.

    Numerous red states have stayed in Republican hands due to severe voter suppression (Florida, North Carolina, and Georgia are just a few examples) but Wisconsin just reached a new level of depravity.

    Heather Cox Richardson reported this tidbit last night:

    Today’s GOP has gone a long way on voter suppression and disinformation, and Trump and some of his people are still trying to make that work. Trump’s unhinged tweets today are an example of such disinformation, and there was also follow-up news on voter suppression from the story I wrote about on December 16, the story of the purge of more than 200,000 voters in Wisconsin, a key state that Trump won in 2016 by less than 23,000 votes.

    In December, Judge Paul Malloy ordered a purge of more than 234,000 voters from the rolls in Wisconsin. When the Wisconsin Elections Commission, which is evenly split between the parties, asked Malloy to put the decision on hold until after the 2020 election, he declined. So, as expected, the commission appealed to the state court of appeals, and said it would wait 12 to 24 months before purging the voters who had failed to answer a state letter asking if they still lived at the address the state had on file for them. That made a conservative law firm ask the Wisconsin Supreme Court, which favors Republicans 5-2, to take up the case, and to file a motion with Malloy’s court to hold the Wisconsin Elections Commission in contempt of court, asking it to fine five of the six members of the commission up to $6000 a day until they purged the rolls, explicitly stating that they want it done before the next elections.

    Today, Malloy found the commission in contempt, and said that if it does not immediately begin the voter purge, three of its six members will be fined $250 day. Those three are the Democrats on the commission.

  • Are you sure you want to delete this post?
        

    It's actually been legal for a few years to have armed patrols at voting locations. Regardless of what you call it, it's a blatant attempt to intimidate minority voters.

    Since Arizona has more than its share of wacky legislators, it should not surprise you that a legislator from Scottsdale wants to have armed policemen at all polling places, because he is concerned that DEMOCRATS are going to cause violence.

    https://tucson.com/news/local/arizona-lawmaker-wants-police-posted-at-every-polling-place/article_11989c9f-0125-50e4-b3da-0c273d9c92c8.html#tracking-source=home-top-story-1

  • Are you sure you want to delete this post?
        

    Dutch's thread is the 6th (and most recent) thread that we have had about this topic, so I'll just add a few comments to his thread.

    Heather Cox Richardson released another excellent article about the topic last night Since she tends to be wordy, I'll simply list her main points below:

    The Republicans are a minority party. They win by keeping their opponents from voting, or by making sure their votes are undercounted.

    The process of culling voters began in 1986, when Republicans who knew that Reagan’s budget cuts were unpopular began to talk of cutting down black voting. In a secret memo later made public by a judge, an official for the Republican National Committee explained that paring the voting rolls down in a call for “ballot integrity” “will eliminate at least 60-80,000 folks from the rolls.”

    When Democrats tried to expand voter registration in 1993 with the Motor-Voter Law, which permitted people to sign up to vote when at certain state offices-- including the Department of Motor Vehicles and welfare offices-- Republicans insisted that the Democrats were simply trying to register more of their own “special interest” voters and fought the law.

    In 1998, the Florida legislature passed a law to prevent such voter fraud, and the law quickly became a purge of black voters, people presumed to vote Democratic. In the election of 2000, Republican George W. Bush won the state of Florida and thus the election by 537 votes. A later investigation by the United States Commission on Civil Rights revealed “an extraordinarily high and inexcusable level of disenfranchisement,” primarily of Democratic African American voters, in that election.

    (The link below will give you a few more of my thoughts on this topic:)

    https://tohell-andback.blogspot.com/2012/02/i-am-not-crook.html

    When Democrat Barack Obama won the presidency in 2008, Republicans set out to guarantee he had a hostile Congress to keep him from accomplishing anything.

    In the 2012 election, Democrats won a majority of 1.4 million votes for House candidates. And yet Republicans came away with 33 more seats than Democrats in the House of Representatives.

    In 2013, when the Supreme Court gutted the 1965 Voting Rights Act with the Shelby County v. Holder decision, by ruling that states could change their voting laws without preclearance by the Department of Justice, Republican state officials immediately began to introduce voter ID laws and bills restricting voter registration.

    Trump and the Republican National Committee have launched a multimillion-dollar legal fight to keep Democrats from changing voting rules to enable people under 65 to vote from home, rather than risking their health or violating stay-at-home policies by gathering at polling places to cast ballots. (Republicans are fine with permitting older Americans to vote by mail, recognizing that older voters skew toward them.)

  • Are you sure you want to delete this post?
        

    The situation in Wisconsin is very fluid and confusing—but one thing is certain: Republicans are doing all they can to steal the election.

    First, Republicans resisted efforts to postpone tomorrow's election—despite the whole state sheltering in place, and polling places overwhelmed & understaffed. Second, they blocked a move to mail absentee ballots to all voters. And now that a judge extended the deadline to receive absentee ballots, they are pushing the U.S. Supreme Court to reverse it.

    Fortunately, the governor in Wisconsin is a Democrat.

    Wisconsin Gov. Tony Evers issued an executive order Monday afternoon to postpone the state’s election from Tuesday until June 9, citing the health risks posed by the coronavirus pandemic.

  • Are you sure you want to delete this post?
        
    Now it's up to the W supreme court to rule for or against Evers' executive order to postpone the April 7 primary to June 9, luckily, I already voted, but am thinking about all those others that might not have.
  • Are you sure you want to delete this post?
        
    Evers' executive order was struck down by the court, which could have been predicted, it's a conservative court. If anyone contracts the virus by standing in line to vote or from failing to distance each other, the court will have blood on it's hands if anyone dies. Conservatives and the republican led legislature will also be responsible for any deaths too.
  • Are you sure you want to delete this post?
        

    Dock:

    Daily Kos had a few thoughts on this topic this morning:

    " The court's four conservatives who heard the case blocked Evers' order, with both liberal justices dissenting. As a result, the state was left with no choice but to proceed with in-person voting Tuesday, despite the serious risks to public health and a crippled elections infrastructure.

    Not long thereafter, the U.S. Supreme Court overturned an order made last Thursday by a lower court, which said that voters could cast absentee ballots so long as election officials received them by April 13, regardless of when they were postmarked. In a 5-4 ruling—which, like the Wisconsin high court's decision, fell along strictly ideological lines—the court's conservatives ruled that all ballots must be postmarked by April 7.

    (You may remember that the U.S. Supreme Court decided not to rule on Trump's tax returns because of the coronavirus, but they wasted no time at all on weighing in on Wisconsin's voter suppression.)

    For those who do choose to head to the polls, they face an elections infrastructure in shambles. Due to a shortage of poll workers, Milwaukee, the largest city in Wisconsin, was set to open just five polling sites, down from its usual 180. The same problem has plagued jurisdictions across the state. Many voters will therefore be deprived of their right to vote, and efforts to halt the spread of the coronavirus will be undermined.

    But a deep cynicism motivates the right-wing hostility to letting voters participate in the election safely: With progressives mounting a competitive campaign to unseat an arch-conservative appointee of former Gov. Scott Walker on the state Supreme Court, Republicans appear to be counting on the pandemic to disproportionately suppress votes on the left.

    And from Heather Cox Richardson:

    "There is a crucial election there tomorrow that landed tonight at the US Supreme Court. The backstory is that in 2010, thanks to REDMAP the Republican Redistricting Majority Project I wrote about on Saturday, the Wisconsin legislature was controlled by Republicans. They worked to guarantee their control, gerrymandering the state so effectively in 2011 that in the 2012 elections, Republicans lost a majority of voters, but took 60% of the seats in the legislature. (They won only 48.6% of the votes, but took 61% of the seats.)

    With this power, they promptly passed a strict voter-ID law that reduced black and Latino voting, resulting in 200,000 fewer voters in 2016 than had voted in 2012. (Remember, Wisconsin is a key battleground state, and Trump won it in 2016 by fewer than 23,000 votes.)

    Now, there is a move afoot to purge about 240,000 more voters from the rolls, thanks to the old system called “voter caging.” The state sent letters to registered voters, largely in districts that voted Democratic in 2016, and those who did not respond to the letters have been removed from the voter rolls on the argument that the fact they didn't respond to the letters must mean they have moved. Initially, the purge was supposed to happen in 2021, after the election, but a conservative group sued to removed them earlier and a conservative state judge, Paul V. Malloy ordered it done. Malloy’s decision has been appealed to the Wisconsin state supreme court, which has deadlocked over the issue by a vote of 3-3.

    And this is how Trump could get re-elected.

  • Are you sure you want to delete this post?
        

    Yes again,this is just the beginning of the Trump re-election. Where are the Democrats? Sound asleep?

    If this is the forebode of the coming election, forget the whole thing, then Trump will win. Biden should now already protest in a big way and declare any voting in that State unacceptable and "void", Start an huge country wide lawsuit or "rally/demonstration" to stop this nonsense.

    If allowed forget this country.

  • Are you sure you want to delete this post?
        

    Chuck Schumer just weighed in:

    " The backbone of our democracy -- in fact, the very wellspring of our democracy -- is the right to vote.

    So last night's decision by the Supreme Court not to step in to protect voters' rights in Wisconsin is a terrifying one. The conservative majority on the court ruling to block a court order that would have extended the period to return absentee ballots in Wisconsin's primary election during a once-in-a-century pandemic is inexcusable.

    Voters now literally have to put their lives on the line to cast their ballots. We're asking voters to choose between democracy and their health. That's unconscionable.

    As of Monday, half a million absentee ballots were still not recorded as returned -- which means potentially hundreds of thousands of voters in Wisconsin could miss out on having their voices heard if they don't return those ballots or show up to vote in person.

    If the Supreme Court can't find consensus on the backbone of our democracy, that means potentially dire consequences lay ahead of our November elections. We need fair elections, and we need them now: Add your name to call for free and fair elections right now.

    Sincerely,

    Chuck Schumer

  • Are you sure you want to delete this post?
        
    In Wisconsin 5 polling places are open today. Usually it's 180. If you can't do it, don't do it. No wonder the lines were so long.
  • Are you sure you want to delete this post?
        

    @TJ, five polling locations in Milwaukee alone, only one open in a town named Waukesha, most polling places were closed in the state because they couldn't find enough poll workers. At the Milwaukee polling places, National Guard in street clothes manned some locations.

    jsonline.com/story/news/politics/electi...

    merrillfotonews.com/2020/04/07/wisconsi...

    "It’s not just a presidential primary on the ballot in Wisconsin. Also at stake is the makeup of the Wisconsin Supreme Court — the very court that struck down Mr. Evers’s effort to delay Tuesday’s elections."

    twnews.us/us-news/wisconsin-election-vo...

  • Are you sure you want to delete this post?
        
    Guess what this is forebode of what is to come in November. The Trump party is this just "testing" now to make sure that they can "win". I don't see any protest from Biden. Where is he sleeping?
  • Are you sure you want to delete this post?
        
    So far, early election results in cheese land has Biden winning by a landslide, and the state supreme court candidate (Jill Karofsky) is showing promise of beating Wade (a CONservative-repuglicon).