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Beto O'Rourke declares candidacy for president


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  • Schmidt
    2019-03-14 07:13:24 PM
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    Beto O'Rourke has finally done what everyone expected. He has put his name in the ring for the Democratic Party nomination.

    MSN: Beto O'Rourke announces 2020 Democratic presidential bid

    We have already discussed O'Rourke in other threads, but I expect him to rise in the polls now that he has formally declared. Trump is already mocking his hand gestures while speaking so that must be a good sign.

    I have some reservations, but he's better than Bernie.

  • wwjd
    2019-03-14 07:41:45 PM
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    He throws some red flags for me, but at the moment its more of a gut reaction to him rather than any specific policy. He seems to be saying a lot of what democrats want to hear.

    I don't know what term to put on it, but the in news clips he comes across with over-the-top enthusiasm, in other words its political theater; he not being completely authentic, its a political persona of himself that he is projecting. The audience enjoy that over-the-top "rally" energy that he is projecting when they see him in person, but its not sustainable because its not 100% real. It causes burn out for anybody who is performing at an elevated energy level day after day. When a person is authentic, they are not pushing themselves beyond their limits to maintain an image of themselves that is a performance.

    For him to succeed he needs to rise quickly in the polls so his popularity feed back into his campaign. If he does not rise quickly into the top 5, I think he will likely be one of first to drop out.

  • Schmidt
    2019-03-15 12:28:55 AM
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    Well he has a lot of passion and can be very animated in front of a crowd, certainly more so than the other Democrats. He seems to be able to draw big crowds and raise money.

    New York Times: Where Beto O’Rourke Stands on the Issues

    On the issues, I don't see much that would separate him from the rest of the pack. He supports universal health care but doesn't seem to be on board with BernieCare. We will have to dig deeper on the issues to see how well he has thought through his stands on the issues.

  • Carlitos
    2019-03-15 12:35:47 AM
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    I think he has that Democratic philosopher-king vibe but his resume seems very thin. I voted for him against Cruz.

    The main benefit of Beto is how it could change the electoral map if he turns Texas blue. That means death to the Republicans in 2020 and beyond.

    But Democrats need major GOTV efforts in Texas to make that happen and capitalize down ticket. Beto alone doesn’t do that.

  • Chet Ruminski
    2019-03-15 02:33:43 AM
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    Says:

    "We will have to dig deeper on the issues to see how well he has thought through his stands on the issues."

    O'Rourke is not worth the time it took to write this to consider him for President.

    google.com/amp/s/pbs.org/newshour/amp/p...

  • TJ
    2019-03-15 07:40:17 AM
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    His youthful enthusiasm is refreshing. Too soon for the top office though.
  • Chet Ruminski
    2019-03-15 08:33:49 AM
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    Here is how a president talks:

    youtu.be/94nwYhT6PIo


  • Chet Ruminski
    2019-03-15 01:08:55 PM
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    Don't overlook the reality of whatever is spent on the poor comes right back. The upper class loses nothing except the power to punish poor and middle class people.
  • Dockadams
    2019-03-15 04:08:10 PM
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    How many D candidates are there now? 25 or 30? Come on Biden, shit or get off the pot.
  • Carlitos
    2019-03-16 12:07:55 AM
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    This shit about Beto as a teenager writing a psychotic horror fantasy about murdering children by running them over with a car is disqualifying.

    I get that we all did things that we regret when we were kids but this is a bridge too far for me.

    I might be able to excuse this for a lower level office but not the Presidency.

    It’s too unsettling morally and emotionally despite whatever rationale or reasoning that excuses it as the errors of a wayward youth on his way to becoming presidential timber.

    It will be used as a powerful weapon against the Democrats if he were to become President. The golden boy is American psycho.

    Further, it raises questions about what else is there? We knew about the DUI, rock music and skateboards, and weed. We’ve heard the whispers about shady business dealings by his father or family. Now this? Hard to believe there’s nothing else. Cloud of suspicion hangs over him.

    And how did the media find this out? Why didn’t he have this scrubbed?

    Beto 2020 blew up right off the launch pad.

    I cry no tears for him.

  • Dutch
    2019-03-16 08:51:23 AM
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    Carlitos; I don't know anything about this guy. However the "field" of candidates is getting a bit ridiculous. None of them have "international" experience, let alone how the world thinks about our "corruption" as well the antique British governing "system" we have. The "mess" in Britain should be an warning.

    It clearly shows that even an "cow" can run; I guess "qualifications" do not matter; that's why we have the idiot Trump now.

    Let alone of having an proper "honest" election system; where only "votes" count.

  • TJ
    2019-03-16 11:04:11 AM
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    It's a long and winding road to where choices are made on who can be suitable to lead us going forward. Hopefully good choices are made. Don't forget the R's had about 20 competing competing before a brilliant man settled it all with 5th grade name calling and belittling of the lifelong lifelong candidates.

    theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2019/0...

  • Dockadams
    2019-03-16 02:07:20 PM
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    Beto, misogynist? say it ain't so.

    Didn't I write about not having any skeletons in a candidate's closet/s?

  • TJ
    2019-03-16 05:55:24 PM
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    The link from The Atlantic (posted above) talks about all of the candidates and a few who had declared or might declare. What I get out of the story is a huge numbet of capable and potentially valuable candidates for Vice President. Of all likely candidates it is most likely Joe Biden or Bernie Sanders. I would love to see 2 or 3 others escalated significantly so we focus on 5 real choices and respectfully explain the reality to the bottom 15. Obviously things change and some become a more important and relevant choice when circumstances are favorable.

    I hope party leadership will advise the 6 - 10 next best options that a strong 2nd name on the 2020 ticket is essential. I expect a long hard fought battle between Biden and Sanders. Both are well beyond retirement age. A strong VP is quite likely going to do far more than ribbon cutting and ceremonies. The presidency is a stressful job and the VP should be chosen with great care.

  • Schmidt
    2019-03-16 07:23:27 PM
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    Well we had a "Blue Wave" of young, energetic and diverse members elected to Congress, many of them women. We take pride in that diversity and call the Republicans the "party of old white men".

    So who are the two top candidates polling on the Democratic ticket?

    76 year old Joe Biden

    77 year old Bernie Sanders

    Maybe we'll have a rerun of 2016 except in the place of Hillary we'll substitute Biden.

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