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    During the Charlottsville rally in 2017, the attendees were carrying torches, wearing swatzikas, and chanting "Jews will not replace us"

    In October of 2018, 11 people were killed at a synagogue in Philadelphia.

    Now, of course, the conservatives are appalled that comments by the newly elected Muslim from Minnesota made remarks that some people consider anti-Semitic, even though she is absolutely correct about Israel's heavy influence on our foreign policy in the Mideast, which largely ignores the plight of the Palestinians.

    https://www.aljazeera.com/indepth/opinion/israel-absolved-palestinian-women-rights-abuse-190308090710113.html

    Typical Republican hypocrisy.

    https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2019/03/house-broadly-condemns-hate-divide-ilhan-omar-190307223135152.html

    The House resolution also properly criticized Islamaphobia, and we are far from the only country where Islamaphobia is a problem:

    https://www.aljazeera.com/indepth/features/noura-bendali-muslim-dane-fighting-islamophobia-190307234624856.html

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    Thomas Freidman of the New York Times published an excellent article on Wednesday of this week that was largely supportive of Ms. Omar. Although I could summarize it for you, it's more beneficial to read the article in its entirety.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2019/03/06/opinion/israel-ilhan-omar.html

    One fact that I found very compelling is the fact that this lady is a Muslim refuge from Somalia, a tidbit that would infuriate Republicans for two reasons. One is that she is a Muslim, and wears her hijab in Congress. The second is that she is from a "shithole" country in Africa, and she is definitely NOT from Norway.

    Although our political system is far from perfect (and Mitch McConnell is a prime example of that) it's very encouraging to see that a bartender from Queens (AOC) and a refuge from Somalia (Omar) can get elected to Congress.

    Somalia has been a troubled country for a lot of years, but Ilhan Omar is not the only refuge from there who managed to find success elsewhere.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ayaan_Hirsi_Ali

    Ayaan Hirsi Ali was born in Somalia, but managed to escape an arranged marriage and travel to the Netherlands as a refuge, where she eventually got elected to public office. While she was in the Netherlands, she wrote the story for a film titled "Submssion", which was directed by Theo van Gogh. Although it is labeled Part 1, Part 2 was never produced because Theo van Gogh was murdered by a Muslim extremist who did not like the film.

    It's chilling to watch:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6rS8FJyX3gs

    Ms. Ali emigrated to the United States, and became a citizen in 2013. Although she has never fun for office, she has been politically active in her new adopted home. She is a Fellow with the Hoover Institution at Stanford University, a Fellow with the Future of Diplomacy Project at the Belfer Center for Science and International Affairs at The Harvard Kennedy School, a visiting scholar at the American Enterprise Institute in Washington, D.C., and a member of the Council on Foreign Relations

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    Excellent piece; yes all of this shows how far we've sunk; I'm from the Netherlands as well did work in Somalia when the Russians were still there; it was originally an Italian colony. So I know why she thinks that way.

    She's got the right outlook, which people here don't want to understand; especially in parts of the country who never have been away from this "island".

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    Hillary Clinton rightly called Trump supporters "deplorable" during her campaign - and she was absolutely correct.

    One of them turned up at the Sanders rally in Phoenix on Friday.

    Robert Sterkeson, 37, a self-described Nazi, unfurled a swastika flag at Sen. Bernie Sanders’ rally at Veterans Memorial Coliseum in Phoenix.

    Sanders, who is Jewish, had relatives killed in the Holocaust and said he “speaks for the families” of the Americans who died battling “against fascism” during World War II.

    Sterkeson said he had no regrets in an interview with The Arizona Republic on Friday. He made ugly references to anti-Semitic conspiracy theories and said Jews should not be allowed to run for president. He also made personally disparaging remarks about Sanders. He said that he also attended President Donald Trump’s rally in the same arena two weeks earlier. He also made anti-Semitic remarks about Jared Kushner, Trump’s son-in-law.

    Sterkeson is the founder of Bomb Islam, an Islamophobic group. Not long after the Arizona Veterans Memorial Coliseum unfurled its flag, Sterkeson started shouting, "Heil Hitler," witnesses said.

    There were 1,879 recorded anti-Semitic incidents in the United States in 2018, a near-historic high, according to the Anti-Defamation League, an anti-hate organization.

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    Perhaps I'll put in links later.

    These depictions are interesting. Have you considered the "NIMBY" (Not in my backyard) principle? NIMBY can definitely alter the cast of a topic. First of all, please consider that the Somalis were/are not generally moving into White America, they are not moving into affluent areas, for the most part, they are not moving into middle-class neighborhoods There may be exceptions I am unaware of.

    So where are the Somalis going?

    I have to digress from the present history celebrating Somalis in MN story, to illustrate there is a preexisting people and oppressive struggle here.

    I lived in the semi-northern central section of Minnesota and then later down in further south-central MN in the northern urban areas of Minneapolis,

    So let's start at the beginning:

    Archeology determines that copper tools dating 5000 years back confirm natives living in what is now central MN; I would estimate far longer. Construction crews regularly run into ancient native gravesites. The area was or had become the homelands of the Dakota (Native American tribe consisting of 7 bands). In central semi-northern Minnesota was the great Dakota city of Izatys with other native communities surrounding the lake called the MdeWakan. (spirit lake) Today it is renamed Mille lacs [French]...presently known nationally as a premier walleyed pike fishing area. The holy lake or spirit lake, Mdewakan, was a central spot from which the Dakota expanded into other areas. Here hunting, fishing, wild nuts, berries, maple syrup, wild rice, and other resources, were prolific and the Dakota thrived.

    The Ojibwe had been displaced and made refugees by the continued westward push by Americans to colonize Native lands and resources [you call it immigration]. The French armed the Ojibwa aka Chippewa, with guns and gun powder in 1750. After bombing and shooting up of Izatys, the Dakota were forced south after battles with the Ojibwe. The Ojibwe are located there at present. The Dakota and bands are now located in more southern Minnesota. Fast forward past the Great Sioux uprising of 1862, which lead to the largest mass hanging in the USA, to the year 1956.

    In 1956, the USA enacted the "Indian relocation act". This was another attempt to dissolve native nations, to acculturate and assimilate, to destroy. Under this program, Natives were provided transportation to urban centers around the country. Often they knew no one, had no access to housing and jobs, and were left to fend for themselves. Many wound up living on the streets or met a grizzly end in the urban environments, My mother was sent to LA in the early '60s. In 1967 my uncle (then in the Marine Corps) identified the body of a badly beaten and sick woman in the LA morgue, my mother.

    Minneapolis became a relocation center for natives. The most impoverished area was known as the Phillips Neighborhood. This neighborhood is just south of the downtown urban area. It was considered a predominantly native neighborhood in the '50s and '60s in terms of demographics with a similar smattering of Blacks and Latinos.

    The city receives money for accepting Hmong and Somalis. The amount I don't know. I do know that the Minneapolis/St Paul areas have the largest populations of Somalis and Hmong peoples in the USA.

    I also know that many of these refugees were at first placed in the Phillips Neighborhood displacing many of the natives in time. Hmong first in 1975 and later more in 1980. Somalis arrived around 1990. There were several altercations between the Somali immigrants and the local black and native populations. Several natives did leave the area but the urban native housing project called "Little Earth" remains. I observed personally the contempt the local blacks had for the Somalis.

    In recent times some Somalis have relocated to near north suburbs which resulted in many complaints from the middle-class locals about low rent complexes being built and the phenomenon known as "White Flight" took form.

    There is no racist intent in this post. The story is true. Why aren't these immigrants placed or accommodated in Edina, Kenwood, southwest and West Metro, Plymouth, or Lynhurst? Hint NIMBY.

    The Nazis say they will not replace us...Few care who displaces or even annihilates Native Americans.

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    Thanks, Jason:

    I lived in St. Paul from 1947 to 1981, and was not aware of the history of the immigrant groups in Minnesota.

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    JasonPeace Wrote:

    Perhaps I'll put in links later.

    These depictions are interesting. Have you considered the "NIMBY" (Not in my backyard) principle? NIMBY can definitely alter the cast of a topic. First of all, please consider that the Somalis were/are not generally moving into White America, they are not moving into affluent areas, for the most part, they are not moving into middle-class neighborhoods There may be exceptions I am unaware of.

    So where are the Somalis going?

    I have to digress from the present history celebrating Somalis in MN story, to illustrate there is a preexisting people and oppressive struggle here.

    I lived in the semi-northern central section of Minnesota and then later down in further south-central MN in the northern urban areas of Minneapolis,

    So let's start at the beginning:

    Archeology determines that copper tools dating 5000 years back confirm natives living in what is now central MN; I would estimate far longer. Construction crews regularly run into ancient native gravesites. The area was or had become the homelands of the Dakota (Native American tribe consisting of 7 bands). In central semi-northern Minnesota was the great Dakota city of Izatys with other native communities surrounding the lake called the MdeWakan. (spirit lake) Today it is renamed Mille lacs [French]...presently known nationally as a premier walleyed pike fishing area. The holy lake or spirit lake, Mdewakan, was a central spot from which the Dakota expanded into other areas. Here hunting, fishing, wild nuts, berries, maple syrup, wild rice, and other resources, were prolific and the Dakota thrived.

    The Ojibwe had been displaced and made refugees by the continued westward push by Americans to colonize Native lands and resources [you call it immigration]. The French armed the Ojibwa aka Chippewa, with guns and gun powder in 1750. After bombing and shooting up of Izatys, the Dakota were forced south after battles with the Ojibwe. The Ojibwe are located there at present. The Dakota and bands are now located in more southern Minnesota. Fast forward past the Great Sioux uprising of 1862, which lead to the largest mass hanging in the USA, to the year 1956.

    In 1956, the USA enacted the "Indian relocation act". This was another attempt to dissolve native nations, to acculturate and assimilate, to destroy. Under this program, Natives were provided transportation to urban centers around the country. Often they knew no one, had no access to housing and jobs, and were left to fend for themselves. Many wound up living on the streets or met a grizzly end in the urban environments, My mother was sent to LA in the early '60s. In 1967 my uncle (then in the Marine Corps) identified the body of a badly beaten and sick woman in the LA morgue, my mother.

    Minneapolis became a relocation center for natives. The most impoverished area was known as the Phillips Neighborhood. This neighborhood is just south of the downtown urban area. It was considered a predominantly native neighborhood in the '50s and '60s in terms of demographics with a similar smattering of Blacks and Latinos.

    The city receives money for accepting Hmong and Somalis. The amount I don't know. I do know that the Minneapolis/St Paul areas have the largest populations of Somalis and Hmong peoples in the USA.

    I also know that many of these refugees were at first placed in the Phillips Neighborhood displacing many of the natives in time. Hmong first in 1975 and later more in 1980. Somalis arrived around 1990. There were several altercations between the Somali immigrants and the local black and native populations. Several natives did leave the area but the urban native housing project called "Little Earth" remains. I observed personally the contempt the local blacks had for the Somalis.

    In recent times some Somalis have relocated to near north suburbs which resulted in many complaints from the middle-class locals about low rent complexes being built and the phenomenon known as "White Flight" took form.

    There is no racist intent in this post. The story is true. Why aren't these immigrants placed or accommodated in Edina, Kenwood, southwest and West Metro, Plymouth, or Lynhurst? Hint NIMBY.

    The Nazis say they will not replace us...Few care who displaces or even annihilates Native Americans.

    Jason:

    MOR News published a story in 2012 about the influx of Somali refugees into the small town of Willmar, in west-cemtral Minnesota.

    Somali entrepreneurs have opened 15 businesses downtown, most of them clustered in a little mall, where shoppers can buy anything from goat meat to fried sambusa dumplings.

    Even though there are fewer Somalis in west-central Minnesota than in Minneapolis, some find Willmar's small-town charm much more appealing than the hustle and bustle of the big city.

    The newcomers from Somalia are changing the social fabric of Willmar, a community with strong Scandinavian roots, now home to about 20,000 people (roughly the same size of my parent's home town, Hastings, Minnesota)

    From an elderly man to a teen who is on the Willmar High School basketball team, Somalis say the city has embraced them.

    Willmar is still grappling with the uncertainty that comes with immigration. More than 20 years after migrant farmers from Mexico and the southern United States began to make Willmar home, a flood of new arrivals from Somalia has introduced new frictions. It has also compelled people to move beyond their comfort zones and talk to their neighbors.

    Over the years, Willmar has learned a thing or two about accepting outsiders.

    A rural town surrounded by turkey farms, it's home to about 4,100 Latino residents, roughly a fifth of the city's population. They've opened Mexican groceries, where butchers carve meat to the sound of regional Mexican music.

    City leaders say immigrants have driven Willmar's growth. They've kept the local economy ticking and ensured the schools are adequately funded. Census estimates suggest about 500 Somalis live in Willmar, but community members say the population is much larger.

    Somali children say they find acceptance at school, where the lines are more blurred. In 2005, Somali runners at the high school led their cross-country team to a state championship.

    Community leaders say most residents accept, if not embrace, the fact that Willmar is a community of change. It's also a harbinger of what's to come. Other cities across Minnesota and even the nation have looked to Willmar to learn how this all-American city has adapted.

    https://www.mprnews.org/story/2012/03/12/outsiders-part3-willmar-is-the-future-of-a-more-diverse-minnesota


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    Thanks for the updates. I'm not familiar with the Wilmer situation. but if they are making it work, more power to them. When my family moved to Minnesota to start a small business there was a large local scandawhovian opposition. It seems out of character that they would accept the Somalis when our experience was so much different. Anything associated with native tribes or individuals was not welcomed.

    A close relative of mine used to go to a popular gym in a near northern suburb. I'm not sure if the Somali got free memberships or not.

    The younger Somali, teen to young adults, were known to visit different areas of a popular community gym. In particular, the basketball courts which they dominated made it difficult for others to use. As well they started a gambling/ betting organization to bet on outcomes of games. They dominated, took over, any part, at will.

    The youngsters were personally unorganized and didn't clean up after themselves.

    These aren't capital offenses but they also don't demonstrate respect for others.

    The downtown businesses I am aware of. I enjoyed a generous serving of gyros and fries. But the approximate hr long shutdown while they do their prayer thing, was inconvenient.

    My X's relatives used to be active in the Phillips neighborhood improvement thing including crime, crack, ground pollution that could get superfund attention and Native homeless encampments.

    I mostly see Somali topics now. I see fluff pieces that overlook Somali running over a native woman with a car or attacking old native men. Oh I suppose natives adapted, overlooked the various tax breaks the Somali get. Same ole throw them Somalis in there with natives and thereby thin out their bloodlines even more. I guess that's racist of me or perhaps it's a sort of self-preservation...but it's reality from my NIMBY perspective.

    The bottom line is usually money and the city/state got paid to accommodate them./

    I guess it doesn't matter that some Somali have been arrested for terrorism...and other stuff.

    mprnews.org/story/2016/06/03/isis-trial...

    justice.gov/opa/pr/fourteen-charged-pro...

    en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Somali_Outlaws

    cbsnews.com/news/rise-of-somali-gangs-p...

    tennesseestar.com/2019/01/02/minneapoli...

    I've been gone a few years now...and a few years after that, I'll be dead. It will be nice to get away from these man-made hells.

    google.com/amp/s/mprnews.org/amp/story/...

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    hey Az Guy, nice to meet you. How goes it in red-state Arizona? I was there in the 80s. Interesting those ornamental orange trees they had downtown they were edible but didn't taste good. I was indigent at that time in my life. Cops shut me down for smoking a home-rolled cigarette thinking I had a joint. He told me to get out of town. To avoid trouble that's just what I did. I never went back. You're a few years older than me. I arrived in Minnesota in the early 90s and spent a significant amount of time there.
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    Jason:

    We moved to Arizona in 2011. We first lived in Flagstaff, and then moved to Tucson in July of 2015, when it was 115.

    The winters, though, are great. Although Minnesota still has a lot of positives, I am WAY too old to be shoveling snow.

    We have traveled to Minnesota twice since moving to Arizona, and both time were for funerals in January (brrr).

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    Call me dumb as a box of rocks, but what the hell does it mean? Jews will not replace us? I've only recently heard that phrase used during the Charlottesville insurrection. I am well aware of some of the KKK's rhetoric. But not all.
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    You are certainly not alone in trying to understand what the phrase means. There are perhaps thousands of articles and discussions on the web that try to describe what "Jews will not replace us" means. Some attempts to explain it are better or more complex than others. It seems to be a human response to change in culture and race. Perhaps not unlike animals who defend their territory in order to preserve their pack thus proving the superior genetics of their group. As a minority I get that a lot when people tell me: "You lost, the stronger us beat the weaker and inferior you so just accept it." People and cultures have different strengths, wiser or more ignorant cultural practices and norms. Racists and bigots may and have destroyed the genius and beauty of other cultures that can and have contributed to the whole of humanity. Might does not make right.

    The whole kkk, white supremacists, neo nazi, Qanon philosphy is a very convoluted new ageish conglomeration of metaphysical fallacy which assets in general that a mystical (or not) group of super elite ( many are jewish) control the world and are encouraging race-mixing, globalism and are called the Illuminati. To literally demonize this concept of the non-existent Illuminati or secret cabal of world controllers, it is claimed they are satinists and/or "intergalatic shapeshifting Lizard race"

    One could spend a lot of time trying to unravel all of this. It looks like I lost all my links. Perhaps I'll repost them later. Meanwhile, you can google the text here to find the original sources.

    The white genocide, white extinction,[1] or white replacement conspiracy theory[2][3][4] is a white supremacist[5][6][7][8] conspiracy theory which states that there is a deliberate plot, often blamed on Jews,[5][8] to promote miscegenation,[9] interracial marriage, mass non-white immigration, racial integration, low fertility rates, abortion, governmental land-confiscation from whites, organised violence,[10] and eliminationism in white-founded countries[5] in order to cause the extinction of whites through forced assimilation,[10] mass immigration, and violent genocide.[11][12][13][14] Less frequently, black people,[15] Hispanics,[16] and Muslims[17] are blamed, but merely as more fertile immigrants,[18] invaders,[19] or violent aggressors,[20] rather than the masterminds of a secret plot.[21]

    White genocide is a myth,[22][23][15] based on pseudoscience, pseudohistory, and hatred,[24] driven by a psychological panic often termed "white extinction anxiety".[25][16] There is no evidence that white people are dying out or facing extermination.[26][27][28][21] The purpose of the conspiracy theory is to scare white people,[26] and justify a commitment to a white nationalist agenda[29] in support of increasingly successful calls to

    wikipedia

    The popularity of this idea is due in part to the work of a deeply controversial French philosopher named Renaud Camus. Camus argues that European civilization and identity are at risk of being subsumed by mass migration, especially from Muslim countries — it’s a concept he refers to as the “Great Replacement.” Vox

    The slogan is a reference to the popular white supremacist belief that the white race is in danger of extinction by a rising tide of non-whites who are controlled and manipulated by Jews (in fact, one variant of “You Will Not Replace Us” is “Jews Will Not Replace Us”). Anti Deflamation League

    They believe that jews are the ones pushing multiculturalism, race mixing, and the push to make the white man the bad guy. Basically they believe jews are pushing race mixing as a way make the white race inferior genetically(as this is mentioned in the Talmud, as a way to make the Jewish race superior)

    The replace us, is meant as if the jews are replacing them with mixed people, and or believing whites are the master race and jews are trying to become the master race. From message board "tiger droppings"

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    I should keep my mouth shut on this but it is intriguing. I'm thankful I'm not involved in a hot war over race/nationalists conflicts... Trump and his nut-job clan troops just may escalate at some point.

    I find it peculiar that some factions in Israel keep trying to encroach on Palestinian lands, their rights and engage in extreme prejudice. Isn't that similar to how they were treated by Nazis? Some Israelis don't approve. I get that they have their right-wing too, Netanyahu for instance.

    JERUSALEM (Reuters) - Thousands of Israelis demonstrated outside the residence of Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu in Jerusalem on Saturday, calling for an end to his leadership just three days before the country’s fourth election in two years. Story

    Racial identity can be, as the English might say, "a sticky wicket". It probably ought not to be taken lightly.

    Hitler didn't have a problem killing several (6?) million Jews although he undoubtedly knew they were white but he decided they had the "jew" factor in their blood which somehow made them impure... He also killed others not fitting the Aryan eugenics model.

    The deaf, the blind, the physically disabled, homosexuals, the mentally ill, and alcoholics were either to be sterilized or killed simply because they were viewed as "genetically defective." Story

    The Jewish ethnic identity most readily recognized by North Americans — the culture of matzah balls, black-hatted Hasidim, and Yiddish — originated in medieval Germany. Although strictly speaking, “Ashkenazim” refers to Jews of Germany, the term has come to refer more broadly to Jews from Central and Eastern Europe. Jews first reached the interior of Europe by following trade routes along waterways during the eighth and ninth centuries. Story

    Anyway, there seems to be some degree of trouble or difficulties amongst the Jewish themselves in terms of identity. I always thought anyone could become Jewish since there are a number of various racial groups who have adopted the Jewish culture/religion.

    Apparently in Israel, you may have to prove you are Jewish via DNA testing too.

    David Lau, the Ashkenazi chief rabbi of Israel, in the past year, the rabbis have been requesting that some people undergo a DNA test to verify their claim before being allowed to marry. Story here

    Anyway off-topic. The way I see it existing, the main difference between American Nazis, etc., and Jewish. The former believe in Jesus + mythology (and a lot of killing of inferiors), the latter do not + mythology. NeoNazis want to keep the tradition of hating Jews as a confirmation of their devotion to Adolf.

    As I understand science, there is only one real race, the human race. However, the social reality is that are a number of races. If you don't believe that, they may kill or persecute you.


    Note to Mossad. You're very nice people

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    I wrote many time about "religion"; just as all the comments it is an worldwide problem because of religion. Since this is an "political" site then it should be clear that "governing" never should have "religious" issues or introduce these like "abortion" or "church" issues. No one here wants to follow in Hitlers "footsteps", I hope. Look at people as "people, but not through the "colored glasses" of "churches" . Religion was created because of the fear of the unknown. By now at least educated people should know by now, through looking at the history of the world, that religion never helped people over the centuries but instead helped people to get killed or get famine etc. Nature on this tiny planet does not care about what people want or do, it does its own act without people in mind. No human created "god's" ever helped the "human race"; neither did it help the dinosaurs, or stopped famine or any deceases or death due to weather, pollution or microbes or wars. The "human" race will only survive if it stops its "greed" and "pollution" and accept the reality of their environment and "racial" differences. Sorry "religion" or "prayers' will not change any outcome in the end; the "human race crates its own destiny; nothing in outer space meddles in it. Yes the "truth" hurts. Amen
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    I agree with you Dutch. However, it seems political groups and religious groups are almost always intertwined.

    In a democracy, the winning formula is getting the most votes. It seems difficult to overlook the religious and win.

    Democracy itself is flawed. e.g. There are 11 voters. 6 nitwits vote for the nitwit. the remaining 5 voters are geniuses. 5 geniuses vote for the genius. Outcome: Nitwits win. Stupid sh*t ensues.