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The 14 characteristics of fascism


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    The 14 characteristics of fascism have been cited a few times on a variety of threads, but a news article that popped up this morning is another reminder of how accurate they are. As you skim through them, you'll notice that Trump has exhibited ALL 14 OF THEM.

    https://ratical.org/ratville/CAH/fasci14chars.html

    Here's an article that very aptly illustrates #6:

    http://dctribune.org/trump-caught-trying-to-force-doj-to-punish-cnn-for-negative-coverage-potus-crossed-the-line/

    Trump has a notoriously thin skin, and tries to punish people who give him unfavorable, but accurate, news. Although he has criticized both the New York Times and the Washington Post, the outlet that really gets him steamed is CNN. As a result, when AT&T was considering merging with CNN's parent, Time Warner, he forced the Department of Justice to file a suit to stop the merger. A federal court threw out the suit, and the merger was ultimately completed, but the incident is clear proof of his abuse of power.

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    Yes Arizona the "cult" leader has all 14 of them. That is what you get if people here don't "vet" an President properly, neither "limit" the "power" of such person. Sorry but it is the Romanov's all over again.
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    On a related note, the Washington Post confirmed this morning that Trump has a "loyalty rating" for FOX news analysts.

    On a scale of 1-10, Hannity scores a 10. Steve Doocy, the co-host of Fox and Friends, actually gets a 12:

    https://www.nytimes.com/2019/03/03/health/fecal-transplants-fda-microbiome.html?action=click&module=Discovery&pgtype=Homepage

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    that guy in AZ Wrote:

    On a related note, the Washington Post confirmed this morning that Trump has a "loyalty rating" for FOX news analysts.

    On a scale of 1-10, Hannity scores a 10. Steve Doocy, the co-host of Fox and Friends, actually gets a 12:

    https://www.nytimes.com/2019/03/03/health/fecal-transplants-fda-microbiome.html?action=click&module=Discovery&pgtype=Homepage

    Yes that is an "cult"; loyalty is part of it ; may be they get the "iron cross" for being "loyal" on "lintjes" day. (lintjes is Dutch for "rewards" from the government)
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    Santiago Zabala of Al Jazeera published a thoughtful article this morning that explains why today's fascism is more dangerous than the fascism of the 1930's. For obvious reasons, he mentions Trump several times.

    https://www.aljazeera.com/indepth/opinion/type-fascism-driving-today-190716082444318.html

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    As I read through the 1956 Republican platform (see the discussion under "minimum wage") , it occurred to me that the Republican Party of 1956 sounds exactly the same as the Democratic Party of today.

    It also occurred to me that today's Republican Party sounds an awful lot like the Nazi Party.

    First, let's take a look at the platform of the Nazi Party in 1920:

    https://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/platform-of-the-national-socialist-german-workers-rsquo-party

    Here are some phrases that many of today's Republicans might agree with:

    4. Only Nationals (Volksgenossen) can be Citizens of the State. Only persons of German blood can be Nationals, regardless of religious affiliation. No Jew can therefore be a German National.

    5. Any person who is not a Citizen will be able to live in Germany only as a guest and must be subject to legislation for Aliens.

    If it is not possible to maintain the entire population of the State, then foreign nationals (non-Citizens) are to be expelled from the Reich.

    11. The abolition of all income obtained without labor or effort.

    The courses of study at all educational institutions are to be adjusted to meet the requirements of practical life.

    a) all editors and editorial employees of newspapers appearing in the German language must be German by race;

    b) non-German newspapers require express permission from the State for their publication. They may not be printed in the German language;

    c) any financial participation in a German newspaper or influence on such a paper is to be forbidden by law to non-Germans and the penalty for any breach of this law will be the closing of the newspaper in question, as well as the immediate expulsion from the Reich of the non-Germans involved.

    The Party as such stands for positive Christianity

    25. To carry out all the above we demand: the creation of a strong central authority in the Reich.

    Next, let's take a look at who Hitler's supporters were:

    https://www.thoughtco.com/who-supported-hitler-and-why-1221371

    The key reason to support Hitler and the Nazi regime was Hitler himself. Aided greatly by propaganda genius Goebbels, Hitler was able to present an image of himself as a superhuman, even god-like figure. (for reference, refer to the thread titled "was Trump chosen by God?".

    He wasn’t widely seen as a power-hungry racist, but someone putting Germany and ‘Germans’ first.

    Hitler had taken power in 1933 on a wave of discontent caused by the Depression, and luckily for him, the global economy began to improve in the 1930s without Hitler having to do anything except claim the credit,

    Few things boost a leader’s support than winning a war, and it gave Hitler plenty of capital to spend when the Russian war went wrong.

    Hitler had major military support because he rearmed them, expanded them, gave them the chance to fight and early victories.

    Hitler had enough support to get into power, and while there he destroyed all political or physical opposition, such as the SDP, and then instituted a new police regime with a state secret police called the Gestapo that had large camps to house limitless numbers of dissidents.

    Hitler did not win a majority to be voted into power, but he polled the second greatest result in Weimar history

    Most people had issues with the government, as ever, but were happy to overlook them and support Hitler, partly out of fear and repression, but partly because they thought their lives were okay.

    NOW do you understand Trump supporters?

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    All I can say; he has the book "Mein Kampf" on his night table; the only problem is he's too lazy to read it until the end. The end will come as it did with Hitler. He already got an Himmler, Goering, Goebbels ( Barr, Pence, Miller) as well part of the Gestapo and "camps" all set up.

    Also the Catholic church kept quietly "supportive" and Hitler was an Catholic throughout his reign.

    Yes all of this gives me the shivers.

    By the way, great research by you; compliments.


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    Dutch:

    The Catholic church, under Pope Pius Xi, DID support fascism in both Italy and Germany.

    There is stronger evidence of this in Italy, which is documented in the book "The Pope and Mussolini", but it's also true that he could have done more about fascism in Germany, which is detailed in the book "Hitler's Pope".

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Pope_and_Mussolini

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hitler%27s_Pope

    The clearest example of coordination between the Pope and Mussolini was the Lateran Treaty of 1929, which established the Vatican as an independent country. At roughly one square mile, it is also the smallest country in the world.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lateran_Treaty

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    Excellent follow up. I only hope the "believers" read your "posts". But yeah on this "island" you can't educate these people anyway; they follow "blindly" our own " god" appointed leader. Amen
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    Steve Benson, former cartoonist for the Arizona Republic, has published some excellent cartoons over the years. Benson was awarded the 1993 Pulitzer Prize for Editorial Cartooning, was a Pulitzer finalist in 1984, 1989, 1992, and 1994, and has received a variety of other awards. He has served as president of the Association of American Editorial Cartoonists. His cartoons have been collected in a number of books.[

    The one that he published this morning accurately sums up the devotion of the MAGA crowd to the FORMER president. In his latest newsletters, incidentally, he still calls himself PRESIDENT Donald Trump.

    https://www.gocomics.com/stevebenson/2021/07/19

    Naturally, I had to look up the book pictured, which apparently does not exist - but is true in reality.

    S. Noci, of Democracy Guardian, published the article below early in Trump's time in office.

    https://democracyguardian.com/trump-supporters-todays-nazi-brown-shirts-73a98e677730

    This article, incidentally, was published exactly eight days before the "Unite the Right" rally.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unite_the_Right_rally

    Here are some key points:

    Fascism is nothing new. It has occurred throughout history in many countries. There is a defining moment, a tipping point for fascist dictators for their success and that happens when a baseline adopts the beliefs that there are specific types of people and/or religions that are the enemy. This is fueled by propaganda and we have witnessed those that have no interest in seeking any “truth” by adopting the lies and charging forward to support the dictator that appeals to their hate. In Germany, they established the “Brown Shirts” to enforce their new laws and what started with the Jews, quickly spiraled out of control to include intellects, artisans and eventually everyone that disagreed with their doctrine. We are seeing this happen now in the United States, as Trump supporters are not only attacking the immigrants, but now calling out for the mass murder of anyone that is “liberal”.

    One of the core accomplishments that Hitler achieved was in convincing his followers that all of the media was “lying press or lugenpresse”, which is a term that has been shouted at some of the Trump rallies. Through the use of propaganda, Hitler told his supporters that any of the news that was reported that didn’t align with their beliefs was false. He thereby quickly made the transition so that all media eventually came under the control of his administration, something that we also see in Russia under Putin’s regime.

    Control of the media is one of the fourteen characteristics of fascism and probably one of the most important as it empowers only the message of the dictator and his administration. We are currently seeing Trump attempting the same goal as he excludes U.S. journalists from meetings with Russian representatives as well as no longer allowing cameras in the daily press briefings.

    While there have always been white supremacists, the 2016 election process opened the doors for those that hid behind their hate and disdain for anyone other than “white Christians” to openly not only state their disdain, but act upon it. In an NBC article, U.S. Hate Crimes Up 20 Percent in 2016, Fueled by Election Campaign: Report:

    “Bias crimes appeared to increase in some cities following the Nov. 8 election of President Donald Trump, a trend that has extended into this year with a wave of bomb threats and desecrations at synagogues and Jewish cemeteries, according to California researcher Brian Levin.

    (You may remember the chant, "Jews will not replace us" from the Charlottesville rally).

    Our babies are not born with hate, this is something that is taught to them and handed down from one generation to the next. Hitler knew that the key element of his success was to tap into this form of hate for others, and he established his Hitler Youth programs. We saw a demonstration of this as Trump made an attempt to emulate the same kind of hate at the Boy Scout Jamboree.

    “When Trump declared he would “kill” Obamacare, boy scouts in the audience began chanting “U-S-A.” When Trump asked the crowd if President Barack Obama had ever attended the jamboree, they booed Obama — who was a boy scout himself, as a child — while Energy Secretary Rick Perry and Price, who were standing behind Trump on stage, laughed and clapped.

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    Good story, however there is an difference between facism and using it to get "rich". Hitler never got as rich as Trump.

    Trump is using every means to get rich and uses facism as another tool to get rich as well get "power" over the dumb ass people. Since this country only thrives on money and has no culture, then that is the game, An excellent example is the 11 minutes space flight of Bezos who actually shows how the rich are just spoiled brats and just want toys to play with. This total joke did cost millions without any benefit for the people here. Such money would have been better spent on helping the poor here.

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    HCR published an enlightening article. For the United States, Hungary is like a canary in the coal mine for American democracy.

    Today, Hungarian Prime Minister Viktor Orbán posted on Facebook a photo of Fox News Channel personality Tucker Carlson visiting him. Carlson is broadcasting his television show from Hungary this week, before he speaks on Saturday at MCC Feszt, an event hosted by a government-sponsored university whose mission is to produce a conservative elite.

    Hungary is a country in central Europe of about 10 million people who have, in the decade since Orbán took power for the second time, watched their democracy erode. On paper, Hungary is a democracy in that it still holds elections, but it is, in fact, a one-party state overseen by the prime minister.

    (Marshall Tito was the president of Hungary from 1953 until his death in 1980. Tito built a very powerful cult of personality around himself, which was maintained by the League of Communists of Yugoslavia after his death. Twelve years after his death, as communism collapsed in Eastern Europe, Yugoslavia dissolved and descended into a series of interethnic wars.

    Although some historians criticize his presidency as authoritarian, others see Tito as a benevolent dictator. He was a popular public figure both in Yugoslavia and abroad. Viewed as a unifying symbol, his internal policies maintained the peaceful coexistence of the nations of the Yugoslav federation. He gained further international attention as the chief leader of the Non-Aligned Movement, alongside Jawaharlal Nehru of India, Gamal Abdel Nasser of Egypt, and Kwame Nkrumah of Ghana. With a highly favourable reputation abroad in both Cold War blocs, he received some 98 foreign decorations, including the Legion of Honour and the Order of the Bath.)

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Josip_Broz_Tito

    Orbán has been open about his determination to overthrow the concept of western democracy, replacing it with what he has, on different occasions, called “illiberal democracy,” or “Christian democracy.” He wants to replace the multiculturalism at the heart of democracy with Christian culture, stop the immigration that he believes undermines Hungarian culture, and reject “adaptable family models” with “the Christian family model.”

    No matter what he calls it, Orbán’s model is not democracy at all. As soon as he retook office in 2010, he began to establish control over the media, cracking down on those critical of his party, Fidesz, and rewarding those who toed the party line. In 2012, his supporters rewrote the country’s constitution to strengthen his hand, and extreme gerrymandering gave his party more power while changes to election rules benefited his campaigns. Increasingly, he used the power of the state to concentrate wealth among his cronies, and he reworked the country’s judicial system and civil service system to stack it with his loyalists. While Hungary still has elections, state control of the media and the apparatus of voting means that it is impossible for Orbán’s opponents to take power.

    Trump supporters have long admired Orbán’s nationalism and centering of Christianity, while the fact that Hungary continues to have elections enables them to pretend that the country remains a democracy.

    Currently, political patterns in America look much like those Orbán used to gather power into his own hands. Republican-dominated legislatures are passing new measures to suppress the vote, aided by the Big Lie that former president Trump did not lose the 2020 election.

    Today, a piece by Jane Mayer in the New Yorker revealed how the money for the Arizona audit audit is coming not from local protesters, but rather from “sophisticated, well-funded national organizations whose boards of directors include some of the country’s wealthiest and highest-profile conservatives.”

    Mayer details how organizations such as the Heritage Foundation, the American Legislative Exchange Council (ALEC), the anti-regulation FreedomWorks, and the Judicial Education Project (which is tied to Leonard Leo, a chair of the Federalist Society, which has worked since the 1980s to stack the courts with originalists) have turned from their previous advocacy to focus on voter suppression. These groups are bankrolled by Milwaukee’s Lynde and Harry Bradley Foundation, whose board member Cleta Mitchell was on Trump’s January 3, 2021, call to Georgia election officials.

    The Heritage Foundation, incidentally, actually wrote many of the restrictive voting laws now being passed in state legislatures.

    But for him to visit Orbán and to broadcast from Hungary right now, when American democracy is under the very sort of threat Orbán represents, seemed to me to be a deliberate demonstration of the Trump Republicans’ plans for our future

    https://heathercoxrichardson.substack.com/p/august-2-2021

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    Yes, the dumb asses here have no clue what is happening in the background,your description is correct. Indeed the " rich" Nazi's here are upsetting the cart. All these so called "foundations" are more or less the brooding grounds for the republicans who lost their direction. Tucker Carlson is an total idiot who absolutely does not understand anything about Hungary or east block countries. He's an real danger for this society because people here are gullible all the way and fall for it.

    Sorry to say that this country is an chaotic mess, because of these types; the stupidity not to put limits on"free speech" and plenty of other things etc. which gets you as an country going rapidly downhill into an Hitler like period..

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    Arizona -- Thanks for sharing this. Thom Hartmann discussed Tucker Carlson's presence in Hungary at length on his talk show today. He calls Carlson a fascist. And Orbán as the head of an oligarchy whereby he has consolidated his power in controlling not all aspects of government from the legislative branches to the courts. All are stacked with his cronies. And the media is also under his control. This is the wet dream that Trump dreamed of, supported by some rich billionaires to fund the Big Lie as discussed by Jane Mayer in her New Yorker article that you referenced.

    Americans need to start paying attention to what is happening to our democracy. We are perhaps just one or two elections away from a "Hungary scenario". Fascism existed in the minds of many Americans before World War II, so one can see how easily they can be manipulated again.

    The Guardian: The United States was never immune to fascism. Not then, not now

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    Schmidt absolutely correct; the dumb "island" mentality reigns here. Most people here have no clue what an "fascist" is.

    Eastern Europe is an very strange area,which never actually re-couperated from WWII. It is stuck between the West and Russia and is not stable at all in their way of life. I did deals in Romania in the past and did not like it at all.

    Tucker Carlson is an total idiot who never read an history book or "culture" book about the how and why of eastern Europe.