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Michael Cohen testimony before Congress


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    lonely bird Wrote:
    Dutch Wrote:

    I looked at about half of it; my conclusion is: I've never seen such an "kindergarten" as this. It is time they learn to have an "REAL" productive meeting. If I would act like Meadows or Jordan in an meeting at our company, I would have been tossed out.

    Already right at the start Meadows screamed and wanted some nutty thing to get rid of the whole proceedings. Cummins was an typical "sweet" Democrat who allowed way too much "garbage" to float up. Like the total idiot of Meadows who hired in an black girl standing up to prove that Trump was not an racist. Sorry the "rules" for such meetings should be drastically changed. A bunch of amateurs! At the start of the meeting there should have been an very clear and strong message, that this meeting SOLELY was to get Cohen to tell what he knew about Trump's "world"; thus not that Cohen could be "torpedoed/attacked"; because he was solely invited to tell his side what he knew about Trump . Then also the "chairman" should have said: the one's who don't follow these rules will be removed.

    Sorry the way I looked at it, means that the "stupid" part of this country is totally uneducated and has no manners at all, let alone on how to hold an discussion; yes indeed Meadows and Jordan an some others do come from the "stupid" States. The same as McConnell etc. If we want these type of people to run our country, then it is down the drain, like happens in any other "uneducated" country.

    Hey Dutch! I live in Ohio. That being said Jim Jordan is an idiot.
    Lonely; We've got all the snowbirds from Ohio; do me a favor; give them driving lessons before they come here!!!:-P
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    TJ:

    AOC's questioning popped up this morning on my Facebook feed. Again, she did an excellent job of getting to the heart of the problem. She also set a trap for Trump, since the Democrats will now have valid reasons to subpoena tax records. Just as importantly, local tax authorities in New York and Florida will be able to go after him for the real estate taxes he has screwed them out of due to his under-valuing of his properties.

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    I started writing another post on the Republican demeaner in the Cohen hearing. I decided to make it a blog article instead: "What's next for Republicans?" The Republicans in the committee, especially Mark Meadows and Jim Jordan, epitomize what is now the heart of ugly Trumpism running rampant in the Republican Party. The concern is for the future, something that Cohen also expressed.

    "Indeed, given my experience working for Mr. Trump, I fear that if he loses the election in 2020 that there will never be a peaceful transition of power," Cohen said. "This is why I agreed to appear before you today."

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    Not surprisingly, the Mark Meadows stunt of bringing on an African-American employee of Trump as a prop and "proof" that Trump was not a racist, has backfired on Meadows. And now Meadows himself is being targeted as a racist because of old videos showing him calling for sending then President Obama back to Kenya.

    Michelle Goldberg writes about the whole episode in the New York Times opinion column.

    Republicans’ Race to the Bottom

    Her by-line is the "absurdity of denying Trump's bigotry". Her article is worth reading.

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    The only thing I hope is that the Dem's really start working hard on all the points which need "investigation".

    Furthermore I hope Mueller viewed this session and even if he's an Republican, that an Jordan/Meadows and others are viewed by him as well as pure "filthy garbage" members which don't belong in any government.

    I observed that the Dem's behaved themselves correctly as it it should, but the GOP behaved like an bunch "pigs". Kick someone who's already "down" even further into the sewer.

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    The man who wrote "Wag the Dog", Larry Beinhart, had an excellent article in Al Jzeera this morning:

    https://www.aljazeera.com/indepth/opinion/trump-worst-week-office-190301122024471.html

    As he mentions, Michael Cohen's testimony may not have any immediate consequences, but it paved the way for lots of other nasty surprises for Trump at Federal, states, and local levels, and his children are also in trouble as well.


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    that guy in AZ Wrote:

    TJ:

    AOC's questioning popped up this morning on my Facebook feed. Again, she did an excellent job of getting to the heart of the problem. She also set a trap for Trump, since the Democrats will now have valid reasons to subpoena tax records. Just as importantly, local tax authorities in New York and Florida will be able to go after him for the real estate taxes he has screwed them out of due to his under-valuing of his properties.

    I hope they get taxes from many many years. Zero interest in the dollars and cents. 100% interest in the who, when and why. Who is he in dept to or beholden to and by how much. Follow the money because there's unsavory details attached.
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    When Sean Hannity was in Hanoi with Trump, he made some comments that could force him to become a witness against Trump and/or Cohen. In case you've forgotten, Hannity was ALSO a client of Cohen. If he is eventually forced to testify, I hope that AOC gets to ask him some questions.

    For some reason, the word that comes to mind is "flummoxed", which would be an unusual place for Hannity to be.

    http://dctribune.org/sean-hannity-could-be-subpoenaed-after-bragging-about-having-private-knowledge-about-cohen-payoffs/

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    Schmidt Wrote:

    "Indeed, given my experience working for Mr. Trump, I fear that if he loses the election in 2020 that there will never be a peaceful transition of power," Cohen said. "This is why I agreed to appear before you today."

    I caught that part too. There is a high probability that if Trump is forced out of office, he will declare it to be a conspiracy against him, and have legal experts trying to find a legal angle to contest the election results in the courts, thus giving him a second chance by hoping the SC would hand him the election.

    There of course are many other scary ways Trump might handle loosing and refusing to leave office. Overall Cohen is likely correct, Trump will make one last effort to blow up Washington before he goes as payback.

    And think about this... Imagine who is Trump's on list of pardons, waiting to be freed by Trump. Not just people who have been convicted recently because of Trump, but people who were convicted before Trump was elected, and would be forever on Trump's team after getting a pardon. Trump is likely to sign off on all pardons put in front of him by loyal Republicans who want key political and business figures out of jail with their recorded wiped clean. Trump would have and endless supple of favors to call upon in the future. Such as: "Hi Sam, this Donald, I am having a problem with building a Trump Tower down there with the labor laws, I am hoping you can help me get this resolved. Maybe make a few calls and see what you can do. Just make it go away if you know what I mean. How you streamlined those oil drilling permits back in 1998 is a perfect example. BTW, did they ever find that Rancher that disappeared? Whatever happen to him?"

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    Mr. Cohen is the gift that keeps on giving. Hopefully the totality of all that he provides further strengthens the case.

    politico.com/magazine/story/2019/03/02/...

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    One of the misdeeds that Cohen is famous for is the payment of $130,000 in hush money to Stormy Daniels in October of 2016 to cover up the affair that she had with Trump a decade earlier. We had several discussions about that topic a while back, but I could not find it this morning.

    Stormy Daniels is not been in the news lately, but her former attorney, Michael Avenatti, made the news just this morning, since he was arrested in California for violating the terms of his bail a week before his federal trial in Los Angeles. Avenatti, who is accused of extorting Nike for up to $25 million and stealing millions of dollars from clients, was arrested by IRS agents during an appearance before the State Bar Court in Los Angeles.

    He is no longer Stormy's attorney, but when the two of them were making the TV circuit, there were actually people who thought that he should run for president.

    Less than a year later, he was evicted from his law office, and his legal troubles started to pile up.

    When I pulled up this thread again this morning, I noticed that several people had commented on the performances of Jim Jordan and Mark Meadows during the Cohen hearings. Even though that hearing was a year ago, both of these clowns have not changed a bit. Meadows recently announced his retirement, but Jordan will likely remain in office until his term expires in January of 2021, and possibly longer. He was been in his current position since 2007.

    He recently said that he would be happy to serve in the senate trial, which would REALY make it a circus.

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    Trump will be using White House Counsel Pat Cipollone as his lead defense attorney. Trump lawyer Jay Sekulow will also serve as well as Cipollone deputies Michael Purpura and Patrick Philbin. It is my impression that Jim Jordan's mannerisms and angry apocalyptic tirades exhibited in the House hearings are seen as "unwelcome" in the McConnell controlled Senate. I don't think it will happen unless Trump really wants him.