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    I know this probably isn't the most popular opinion among the left, but I actually welcome the findings that the President of the United States didn't illegally conspire with a hostile foreign power to steal a Presidential election because if was found that he did then we'd be looking at a Constitutional crisis that would make Watergate look like child's play.

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    The pattern of charges seem to suggest that Trump was going to get off the hook on colluding with the Russians. The key being if Manafort and others were not charged with crimes directly linked to Russia, then it was highly unlikely that Trump or his inner circle would be charged.

    Overall, I've never believed he wanted to become president. As noted earlier, he would have loved to have won the popular vote, but lost the electoral college. If that had occurred, he could spend 4 years campaigning to run again in 2020 claiming he really won in 2016 based on the popular vote and the electroal college was rigged by HC.

    IMO, Trump loves campaigning and hates all the responsibilities\duties of being president, but he loves the powers he has president, especially now. Today his ego is likely twice the size as it was before the Mueller Report cleared him of Collusion with the Russian.

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    The total stupidity is that Mueller according what we know has done NOTHING at all about Trump's tax returns neither about money laundering. Just for that Trump could have been charged. Thus in other words Mueller as an Republican is an "traitor" who has been manipulated/threatened by the GOP or Trump himself. The statement on TV was: No Republican will ever convict another Republican.
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    jaredsxtn Wrote:

    I know this probably isn't the most popular opinion among the left, but I actually welcome the findings that the President of the United States didn't illegally conspire with a hostile foreign power to steal a Presidential election because if was found that he did then we'd be looking at a Constitutional crisis that would make Watergate look like child's play.

    Jared, it is already an "crisis" thanks to the Constitution; because it did not cover how an "mob boss" could become President, let alone that there are "enforceable" rules/laws which clearly state what an President is allowed to do. Due to that "stupidity" we are now for sure getting an "dictatorship". I've not seen in any country where an President can dictate "tariffs" or can "profit" from real estate, or dictate the "army" himself to protect our border for nothing. or can have a "cult" around him. All of this is only possible in an "dictatorship". The Dem's will be "stonewalled" and "thrown aside" as being only an "obstruction" for the Trump "cult lovers.
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    jaredsxtn Wrote:

    I know this probably isn't the most popular opinion among the left, but I actually welcome the findings that the President of the United States didn't illegally conspire with a hostile foreign power to steal a Presidential election because if was found that he did then we'd be looking at a Constitutional crisis that would make Watergate look like child's play.

    Trump should be impeached for lying and fraud. The office of President of the United States carries a status of most powerful man in the world. That automatically carries a level of Supreme creditability with it. By lying Trump is infringing upon the creditability of the office. Probably 90 or more percent of the world accepts what he says as truthful. "Fake news" alone is and has done irreparable harm. Using the creditability of the office of President to corroborate his lies should not go unpunished.
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    Chet Ruminski Wrote: Trump should be impeached for lying and fraud. The office of President of the United States carries a status of most powerful man in the world. That automatically carries a level of Supreme creditability with it. By lying Trump is infringing upon the creditability of the office. Probably 90 or more percent of the world accepts what he says as truthful. "Fake news" alone is and has done irreparable harm. Using the creditability of the office of President to corroborate his lies should not go unpunished.
    These are all things Bernie or Busters should have thought about before they decided to overrule the will of the American people.
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    Dutch Wrote: Jared, it is already an "crisis" thanks to the Constitution; because it did not cover how an "mob boss" could become President, let alone that there are "enforceable" rules/laws which clearly state what an President is allowed to do. Due to that "stupidity" we are now for sure getting an "dictatorship". I've not seen in any country where an President can dictate "tariffs" or can "profit" from real estate, or dictate the "army" himself to protect our border for nothing. or can have a "cult" around him. All of this is only possible in an "dictatorship". The Dem's will be "stonewalled" and "thrown aside" as being only an "obstruction" for the Trump "cult lovers.

    Mueller's mandate wasn't to figure out why millions of people voted for a madman with narcissistic personality disorder, it was to determine if Donald or his campaign conspired with a hostile foreign power to influence a Presidential election. That's it.

    Take a deep breath. Donald and his businesses aren't out of the clear just because Mueller's investigation is over. SDNY has numerous investigations looking into Donald's conduct as a businessman and so does the State of New York. Not just that, but Democrats control the House and have subpoena power. If Donald thinks that he's all clear now then he's sadly mistaken.

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    jaredsxtn Wrote:
    Dutch Wrote: Jared, it is already an "crisis" thanks to the Constitution; because it did not cover how an "mob boss" could become President, let alone that there are "enforceable" rules/laws which clearly state what an President is allowed to do. Due to that "stupidity" we are now for sure getting an "dictatorship". I've not seen in any country where an President can dictate "tariffs" or can "profit" from real estate, or dictate the "army" himself to protect our border for nothing. or can have a "cult" around him. All of this is only possible in an "dictatorship". The Dem's will be "stonewalled" and "thrown aside" as being only an "obstruction" for the Trump "cult lovers.
    Mueller's mandate wasn't to figure out why millions of people voted for a madman with narcissistic personality disorder, it was to determine if Donald or his campaign conspired with a hostile foreign power to influence a Presidential election.

    Jared; look at the whole picture please; Mueller had the freedom to dig up dirt on Trump; he failed horribly. As example most of his cohorts were incarcerated, because of money laundering or tax evasion by Mueller; thus why not Trump and his sweet family? Did Mueller play "chicken" because he's an Republican who's afraid of other Republicans; I guess: Yes.

    Guess what, if Obama would have done anything of what Trump is doing day by day; he likely would have been jailed for life.

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    jaredsxtn Wrote:
    Chet Ruminski Wrote: Trump should be impeached for lying and fraud. The office of President of the United States carries a status of most powerful man in the world. That automatically carries a level of Supreme creditability with it. By lying Trump is infringing upon the creditability of the office. Probably 90 or more percent of the world accepts what he says as truthful. "Fake news" alone is and has done irreparable harm. Using the creditability of the office of President to corroborate his lies should not go unpunished.
    These are all things Bernie or Busters should have thought about before they decided to overrule the will of the American people.

    In 2015 I told you Hillary couldn't win. Your fake straw that broke the camel's back only highlights how little support Hillary had. Put the real blame on all the people that believed everything was fine while denying the inequities of the income gap. The lower classes sat silently for 50 years while their rights to life, liberty and pursuit of happiness were sold to the GOP. Bernie called attention to all the wrongs dumped on the lower classes and you want to Trump up some ridiculous claim blaming him for an election that was lost to complacency. Zero visits to Wisconsin is the poster child for elitist complacency.

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    2020 Democrats head to Wisconsin early, looking to reverse 2016 stumble

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    Mar 3, 2019 ยท She made zero visits to the state in those crucial final months, leaving that task to surrogates

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    Dutch Wrote: Jared; look at the whole picture please; Mueller had the freedom to dig up dirt on Trump; he failed horribly. As example most of his cohorts were incarcerated, because of money laundering or tax evasion by Mueller; thus why not Trump and his sweet family? Did Mueller play "chicken" because he's an Republican who's afraid of other Republicans; I guess: Yes.

    We don't know what Mueller did or didn't find outside of the four page memo Attorney General Barr submitted to Congress.

    Maybe he found tons of things that had nothing to do with the Russia investigation that he submitted to the respective U.S. Attorney's office that would have jurisdiction over it or maybe he found out that Donald is simply a blowhard who acted like he broke the rules all the time but actually followed them when he needed to. Who knows? We sure as hell don't and won't until Mueller's full report is declassified.

    All I'm saying is, for this specific investigation determining if the Trump campaign conspired with a hostile foreign power to steal a Presidential election, I think it's a good thing that Mueller didn't find evidence that he or his campaign did. Because if he found concrete evidence that Donald himself conspired with Russia to steal an election then we'd' be sprinting headfirst into the worst Constitutional crisis since South Carolina cut ties with the Union in December 1860.

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    Sorry Jared; just one question: Did Obama have that much contact with the Russians as the Trump "mob"? How come he said in Helsinki that he believed Putin and not our own "investigators"? Time and time it was said Trump and Putin have something "together" which can't stand daylight. How about the "dossier" ; where is the "pee" tape?

    Mueller did find "no evidence" as you say; no President ever did the same things as Trump; after the Comey firing he invited two Russians in the W.H. and gave them "secrets" about Israel. I call that "treason". Also his son in law and son had a meeting with the Russians; does not count either of course; Then also his son in law loaned millions from the Russians as well Saudia Arabia. Does not count either I guess. Then all the guys he hired had contact with the Russians; they are now convicted or jailed. Does not matter either I guess. Yes Trump is as clean as a whistle; don't let me laugh. Sorry Jared the stupid system here is surely at fault; everything is allowed, even ripping little kids from their parents. I guess nobody has any shame in this corrupt government.

    Yes it is time for an Constitutional crisis or an revolution; it is time to revamp that antique Constitution and update it, so that you don't get "mob royalty" like Trump in the future. Even Mueller has not learned how an country should operate an democratic way. Which means release ( Mueller himself) the report to Congress and not to the Trump Loyalists or even worse Barr, who already broke the Constitutional rules by approving Trump's "veto" about an "non-emergency".

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    According to the reporting by The Onion, Trump did everything he could to conclude with the Russians, but the Russians turned him down. Putin considers Trump to be nothing but a loud mouth fuck-up, and at the time didn't want Trump screwing up the Russian's efforts to undermine American's politics. Putin told The Onion "If Trump was the captain of the Titanic, the ship would have sunk before it left dry dock".

    Later in the interview Putin commented "I don't need to collude with President Trump, He is a natural fuckup, just being himself is the best Manchurian Candidate I could ever hope for. I love the Republican Party and Republican voters. If you like Donald Trump as president, you're going to love President Eric Trump who wins the electoral college, but looses the popular vote by over 100 million votes. You will love spending 8 years trying unravel how I made that happen!"

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    "It ain't over 'till the fat lady sings" - and she is not going to sing for a long time yet.

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    This morning, the US House Judiciary Committee unanimously approved a resolution directing the Justice Department to give Congress records on FBI obstruction and counterintelligence probes of US President Donald Trump. As the article below points out, though, that is only the beginning.

    A number of House committees are also investigating possible obstruction of justice by Trump. In a letter seen by the Reuters news agency, six committee chairs in the Democratic-led House of Representatives called on Barr to release the full report prepared by Special Counsel Robert Mueller on Russian meddling in the 2016 US election to Congress by April 2.

    https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2019/03/house-panel-oks-measure-fbi-records-trump-obstruction-probe-190326151437515.html

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    Personally, I believe Mueller already has Trump in checkmate, everyone thought Mueller was using the "Russian Kangaroo Defense" chess moves, but its looking like he created a new set of moves chess players are calling "The Mueller NY Take Down" where every move by Trump is a step towards game over.