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  • Strongly Liberal Democrat
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    This is the message for the USA and the world.

    youtu.be/8eK-5ivYb3o

    And Trump reneged on glas steagal:

    Will Donald Trump Keep His Campaign Promise To Reinstate Glass-Steagall?

    Fortune


    trump reneged on glass steagall from amp.timeinc.net

    Mar 20, 2017 ยท Glass-Steagall was put in place after the Depression to ward off the economic wreckage of financial crises.

  • Strongly Liberal Democrat
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    Nothing like Bernie trying to steal the show from Stacey Abrams.

    No wonder so many Democrats loathe him.

  • Strongly Liberal Democrat
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    The show? The main feature is the declining state of the working class. Adams did not call Trump to task. The low and middle class life style she referred to should have been channeled into a demand for fairness and opportunity. I didn't here anything about reparations for people suffering more and dying earlier because of a failing health system.
  • Liberal Democrat
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    Regarding the restoration of Glass-Steagall article,

    Shareholders Overwhelmingly Say Bigger Is Better For Citi

    Citigroup under pressure put the breakup of the bank to a shareholder vote. Only 3.5 percent of the shareholders thought it was a good idea.

  • Liberal Democrat
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    Stacy Abrams gave her Democratic Party response speech just minutes after Trump finished his speech. There was no time to modify it as a true point by point rebuttal. Bernie Sanders speech was written sometime after Trump's speech. He had time to go line by line dissecting it and polishing his response.

    It is of course vintage Bernie, and I'll give him his due. However, for me it was basically a rerun of his many 2016 campaign rally stump speeches modified with a new target -- Donald Trump.

  • Strongly Liberal Democrat
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    Bernie addresses everything this country needs. The only problem I have with Bernie is he doesn't address money like a resource. If money was treated like it was created to be, a means to facilitate the exchange of goods and services, then prosperity would prevail. I see people everyday that suffer because they can't afford healthcare. That is a travesty.
  • Independent
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    Chet Ruminski Wrote: Bernie addresses everything this country needs. The only problem I have with Bernie is he doesn't address money like a resource. If money was treated like it was created to be, a means to facilitate the exchange of goods and services, then prosperity would prevail. I see people everyday that suffer because they can't afford healthcare. That is a travesty.
    Chet, I agree; as long as like in the "middle ages" there is such an huge "gap" between "rich" and "poor" as well in the "politics" which feeds it, then everything remains in turmoil. An "balance" is needed in everything humans do; this balance is missing right now, which may lead to wars in order to get the focus on something else etc. That seems the "normal' tactic here, look at the history of this country.
  • Liberal Democrat
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    If anyone thinks that Bernie can make the cut as presidential material, and take billions of dollars from the billionaires to fund social programs, they should pinch themselves and wake up from their dream before they go out and vote for someone who makes audacious promises which cannot be made good. The DNC needs to zip their tent closed and keep him out, before he damages another front running democrat.

    newsweek.com/bernie-sanders-asked-not-r...

  • Strongly Liberal Democrat
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    Dockadams Wrote:

    If anyone thinks that Bernie can make the cut as presidential material, and take billions of dollars from the billionaires to fund social programs, they should pinch themselves and wake up from their dream before they go out and vote for someone who makes audacious promises which cannot be made good. The DNC needs to zip their tent closed and keep him out, before he damages another front running democrat.

    newsweek.com/bernie-sanders-asked-not-r...

    My biggest fear is that Bernie or some other cult figure will do what they did in 2016 and fuck everything up for Democrats. I can totally see Bernie and his loyal followers dividing the party and allowing the perfect to be the enemy of the good yet again. It honestly scares me more than anything else. 2020 is Democrats to lose, but that doesn't mean we won't shoot ourselves in the foot again.

    Bernie die hard's thwarted the will of the people in 2016 and haven't shown a hint of remorse about it. What's keeping them from throwing another temper tantrum when their patron saint loses the primary in a landslide a second time?

  • Strongly Liberal Democrat
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    jaredsxtn Wrote:
    Dockadams Wrote:

    If anyone thinks that Bernie can make the cut as presidential material, and take billions of dollars from the billionaires to fund social programs, they should pinch themselves and wake up from their dream before they go out and vote for someone who makes audacious promises which cannot be made good. The DNC needs to zip their tent closed and keep him out, before he damages another front running democrat.

    newsweek.com/bernie-sanders-asked-not-r...

    My biggest fear is that Bernie or some other cult figure will do what they did in 2016 and fuck everything up for Democrats. I can totally see Bernie and his loyal followers dividing the party and allowing the perfect to be the enemy of the good yet again. It honestly scares me more than anything else. 2020 is Democrats to lose, but that doesn't mean we won't shoot ourselves in the foot again.

    Bernie die hard's thwarted the will of the people in 2016 and haven't shown a hint of remorse about it. What's keeping them from throwing another temper tantrum when their patron saint loses the primary in a landslide a second time?

    Your worst fears will materialize unless some candidate busts out for single payer, free college and living wages.
  • Strongly Liberal Democrat
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    Chet Ruminski Wrote: Your worst fears will materialize unless some candidate busts out for single payer, free college and living wages.

    Any candidate that promises the world for free deserves to lose in a landslide.

    I'm for single payer, but we have to be honest with ourselves about how it'll be paid for. Taxing the "millionaires and billionaires" alone will not fund it no matter how much Bernie insists.

    I'm for massive government subsidies to make tuition actually affordable again in the same way it was back in my parents day. Their tuition wasn't "free" though. The government heavily subsidized their educations, but they still had some skin in the game. I'm for "free" tuition for any student who sits at a certain percent on the federal poverty line though. But remember - "free" means We, the People pay for it. I'm A-OK with that, but again, let's be honest.

    I'm for creating a living wage, but I think it needs to be based on statistics and not some random number that covers all fifty states. Fifteen dollars an hour in Portland is a heck of a lot different than fifteen dollars an hour in Miles City, Montana.

    All I'm suggesting is maybe, just maybe, promising all of these things without being honest about how they will be funded isn't the best idea.

  • Center Left
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    I agree with jared. Come up with a payment plan or get out of the way.
  • Independent
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    Bernie Sanders reminds me a bit like Ralph Nader; has big ideas and concepts that he won't comprise on, and wants massive sweeping changes. Some or all might be good ideas, but realistic can't be accomplished unless all elected Democrats were 100% behind him, plus Democrats had dominating control of all branches of government. Realistically that is just unlikely to happen.

    But, Sanders likely sees it very differently, and that he can pull off exactly what Trump did in 2016; be an unlikely Democratic candidate that gets the presidential nomination, then there is a huge Democratic wave that takes full control of everything, leaving Republicans siting in the cold without power to turn on a light switch.

    How else would he expect his vision to become reality?

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    jaredsxtn Wrote:

    I'm for massive government subsidies to make tuition actually affordable again in the same way it was back in my parents day. Their tuition wasn't "free" though. The government heavily subsidized their educations, but they still had some skin in the game. I'm for "free" tuition for any student who sits at a certain percent on the federal poverty line though. But remember - "free" means We, the People pay for it. I'm A-OK with that, but again, let's be honest.

    And when something becomes free, over time it tends to be perceived as something of no value. This is just a generalization. Ideally, create system where it is something of great value, with high standards and exceptions so that those that those who participate are not simply gaming the system to avoid being a productive citizen of value, not somebody that is taking, and never gives back. Who wants to sit in a college class with the same a-holes in HS, that come to class to crack wise jokes, call the girl in the front a fat ugly pig, and uses foul language just to see how the instructor reacts.

    I liked one model, years ago Alaska gave free tuition anybody to go to any college that would accept them, as long as they came back to Alaska and remained employed for 4-5 years. That was one great deal. Get a great education at the college of your choice, and then get a job in a AK for a few years. After time requirement as AK citizen was up, a person was free to go, or stay.

  • Strongly Liberal Democrat
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    TJ Wrote: I agree with jared. Come up with a payment plan or get out of the way.
    So what's the alternative? Suffer in silence. The reason Bernie is as popular as he is is the failure of the Democratic Party to look out for the people. The last 60 years the GOP has done everything possible to turn the country over to big money. What is left is millions of people that can't afford healthcare.