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The Affordable Care Act

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    If those are the "four" candidates who are left over; then I can't visualize that they will win from Trump; none have any international experience, except may be Biden a bit (he knows where the Pope lives). Let alone any sound idea about "healthcare" and its cost and how to "structure" it, without corruption. So looking at the total picture lately, as well our status in the world, I fear "chaos" will win.
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    I have always liked Amy Klobuchar and have never understood why she hasn't been polling higher. It may be that Biden had been sucking up the biggest chunk of the moderate vote and leaving little for Klobuchar and other moderates. As I see it, the moderates (Biden, Buttigieg, and Klobuchar, and perhaps Bennet) together are polling about 37 percent. Likewise Sanders and Warren together are also about 37 percent. So we have a progressive - moderate split of about 37:37 with Harris, Booker, Yang, Steyer, O'Rourke, Yang, Gabbard and Bullock filling in the bottom quarter.

    Harris was the first out the gate, but her answers to questions have always been a bit wishy-washy (not clear and crisp) and I think Iowa voters fault her for that. She might claim it is racism or that she is a woman, but I disagree. She hasn't always done her homework and appears to struggle at times for answers.

    Looking further ahead, I could see a Klobuchar - Buttigieg ticket, but would have a hard time seeing how any of the moderates would fit on a Sanders or Warren ticket. And I don't see a Warren - Sanders ticket as viable either. Sanders will always be selling his socialist revolution no matter who he is aligned with.

    Warren might have to pick a VP mate as someone totally new that believes in her agenda...a key governor perhaps. Andrew Gillum (mayor of Tallahassee) has been mentioned.

    A Biden - Klobuchar or a Biden - Buttigieg ticket might also work.

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    I read today that Biden is doing very well with those over 65. He has an incredibly low percentage of followers who are under 45. Approximately 2% is what was being reported. This is an ugly fact that must be addressed.
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    For those over 65, there must be some realization that their bodies have slowed down...well maybe more for the over 70s than the 60s voter. I am 73 and I find myself forgetting things, especially people's names. It's embarrassing to me, and I'm sure Biden's opponents will exploit that with every slip. Democrats are doing it already. You can imagine how Republicans will cast Biden's "oldness", (he will be 77 this month) not that Trump is a spring chicken either. He is 73 like me. But for his supporters nothing matters.

    I believe Joe Biden will make an excellent president if he can ever get past the primaries and the avalanche of negative insults against him in the general election. I have my doubts based on how he handled the Hunter Biden accusations. Republicans and especially Trump are ruthless in their pursuit of "making dirt" on their opponents.

    So as Biden slips in the polls, his band of moderate supporters will switch to either Buttigieg or Klobuchar. It's happened already to an extent but one really big gaff in the debates and the wave could become a rip tide. Steve Bullock also needs to hang in there.

    In addition to the over 65 voters, Biden gets a substantial part of his support from the African-American community. Where will those supporters go if Biden slips?

    Okay I'm off topic. The Affordable Care Act "public option" champions are Biden, Buttigieg and Klobuchar. I think most of the public will be with them on that issue once they better understand the big picture.

    Kamala Harris, on the other hand, seems to be all over the place...for Bernie's Medicare for all but also for private insurance. Wishy washy. That's why her poll numbers suck.

    Like the 2018 primary, health care will be the defining issue. The Affordable Care Act with a public option is a winner for the primaries, but will have a tough sell in the general election going against the lobbyists. BernieCare will be a loser.

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    Warren Care will be the biggest loser. She has no idea at all about health care in this country, let alone in other countries where it works.
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    Without an explanation of actual costs and a solid plan of who will pay and how much, it's an abyss and huge amounts of money are carelessly being reported. Many many trillions of dollars. It's something that a sound political team should be able to address.

    Yes all want health coverage. All want Filet Mignon also. Perhaps we should give real approximations of what it will cost and who will pay. Until then it's meaningless bantering.

    Get your best 5 political advisors and several financial experts with experience and get a handle on the empty promises Elizabeth. You're getting attention. Back up your ideas with a solid working plan.

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    TJ exactly my feelings; as long as they maintain the "lobbyist" system and "add's" as well doctors and hospitals who can maintain their corrupt practices, then this will remain the most expensive healthcare system in the world.

    Just as with "elections", get the "money" out of healthcare. But I guess they will never learn until every "specialist" can drive an McClaren and has an huge yacht. "Health Care" does not exist here; it is "Wealth Care" instead. But yeah, you can't earn money from an "healthy" society, so make them sick and keep them sick. Warren has no clue at all.

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    Dutch Wrote: Warren Care will be the biggest loser. She has no idea at all about health care in this country, let alone in other countries where it works.
    Exactly correct. Medicare isn't free. When these candidates say Medicare for all, that's fine, but it's still not free. There are still deductibles and copays.
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    The Arizona Republic this morning had an excellent article explaining why repealing Obamacare would cost LOST of job, and Arizona would be one of the states hit the hardest. 41,982 Arizona jobs would be lost, according to the Economic Policy Institute.

    http://arizonarepublic.az.newsmemory.com/?publink=1a3b9d91b

    A decade ago, there were 2.4 million more workers in retail than health care. In 2017, health care surpassed both retail and manufacturing, and has become the largest sector of the U.S. labor force, according to BLS. By 2028, there will be 3.4 million more health-care services jobs.

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    It seems beyond stupid that the Republican Party is STILL trying to take away people's health insurance in the middle of the worst pandemic in the last 100 years - but they are.

    Fortunately, there IS a reason that we have branches of the government.

    The Supreme Court just ruled that the government must pay billions of dollars to Obamacare insurers.

    The high court agreed with insurers that the congressional spending restrictions didn’t release the government from its original promise to fund the Obamacare program. The court said Congress had created "a rare money-mandating obligation" that later appropriations language couldn't repeal.

    "These holdings reflect a principle as old as the Nation itself: The Government should honor its obligations," wrote Justice Sonia Sotomayor the majority opinion.

    Justice Samuel Alito, in a dissenting opinion, criticized the ruling as effectively providing a massive bailout for the insurance industry.

    "Under the court’s decision, billions of taxpayer dollars will be turned over to insurance companies that bet unsuccessfully on the success of the program in question," Alito said in his dissent.

    The decision will have little impact on Obamacare. The law faces a legal threat in a separate case brought by Republican-led states challenging the law’s constitutionality, which the Supreme Court has agreed to hear, likely later this year. But the ruling represents a loss for the Trump administration, which argued it wasn’t obligated to make the risk corridor payments and is supporting the red states’ lawsuit.

    The three-year risk corridors program closed in 2016. Insurance experts said the program’s $12 billion shortfall contributed to turbulence in Obamacare’s early years, as health plans jacked up premiums to cover their losses or abandoned the marketplaces.

    The Supreme Court case consolidated lawsuits brought by three small insurers, including one that blamed the risk corridors shortfall for its collapse in 2016. Today's decision will also benefit insurers who brought dozens of identical lawsuits in lower courts.

    Insurers hopes the decision will also bolster the industry in another pipeline of litigation challenging President Donald Trump’s elimination of a separate Obamacare subsidy program in 2017.

    Insurers have filed numerous lawsuits, including a class action involving about 100 Obamacare plans, claiming that the federal government broke its promise to fund these so-called cost-sharing reductions, which helped insurers pay poor customers’ medical bills. Those lawsuits have so far been successful in lower courts, but appellate judges who heard arguments last year appeared skeptical of the insurers' case.

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    But he keeps trying ...

    President Trump said Wednesday he will continue trying to toss out all of the Affordable Care Act, even as some in his administration, including Attorney General William P. Barr, have privately argued parts of the law should be preserved amid a pandemic.

    “We want to terminate health care under Obamacare,” Trump told reporters Wednesday, the last day for his administration to change its position in a Supreme Court case challenging the law. “Obamacare, we run it really well. . . . But running it great, it’s still lousy health care.”

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/trump-vows-complete-end-of-obamacare-law-despite-pandemic/ar-BB13Hssu?ocid=spartandhp

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    But yeah, the idiots here still support the guy until they die somewhere in the gutter. It has nothing to do with "healthcare", but solely his hate related to Obama, who,was "black" and educated and not an "bully" That does not fit in Trumps Daddy's KKK fanaticism, that is how Trump was raised. Bring the "barf" bucket; it is already overflowing.
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    Just before midnight last night, the Department of Justice filed a brief asking the Supreme Court to invalidate the Affordable Care Act-- also known as Obamacare—the health care law that has enabled millions of Americans to get health insurance.

    In addition to making healthcare affordable, the law prohibits discrimination because of pre-existing conditions and allows young people to stay on their parents’ health insurance policies until they are 26. In 2020, about 11.4 million people signed up for Obamacare policies, while nearly 12.7 million adults are covered by the law’s expansion of Medicaid. The law has increased the number of Americans covered by health insurance and slowed the rise of health care costs across the board.

    In 2014, Fox News Channel personality Bill O’Reilly explained: “Obamacare is a pure income redistribution play. That means President Obama and the Democratic Party want to put as much money into the hands of the poor and less affluent as they can and the healthcare subsidies are a great way to do just that. And of course, the funds for those subsidies are taken from businesses and affluent Americans who have the cash…. Income redistribution is a hallmark of socialism and we, in America, are now moving in that direction. That has angered the Republican Party and many conservative Americans who do not believe our capitalistic system was set up to provide cradle to grave entitlements…. Obamacare is much more than providing medical assets to the poor. It's about capitalism versus socialism.”

    House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-CA) said “President Trump and the Republicans’ campaign to rip away the protections and benefits of the Affordable Care Act in the middle of the coronavirus crisis is an act of unfathomable cruelty.” Presumptive Democratic presidential nominee Joe Biden, who is proposing to expand the law, said "I cannot comprehend the cruelty that's driving him to inflict this pain on the very people he's supposed to serve.”

    In the midst of a pandemic that has revealed just how shaky our healthcare system is, the administration is asking the Supreme Court to destroy the law that enables 23 million Americans to afford healthcare insurance. White House spokesman Judd Deere dismissed criticism about killing the Affordable Care Act during the pandemic, saying, “A global pandemic does not change what Americans know: Obamacare has been an unlawful failure and further illustrates the need to focus on patient care.”

    There were two big indicators today that the Trump campaign is nervous about the upcoming election. First, CNBC ran a story about finance executives shifting their support to Biden, despite their fear he will raise the corporate tax rate from 21% to 28% (it was 36% before Trump’s tax cuts) and restore regulation. According to the article, financiers are furious with Trump’s handling of the pandemic, which is both crippling the economy and making America look pathetic compared to the European Union. With their switching loyalty—or at least their changing view of the likely outcome of the 2020 election—financiers are donating to Biden’s campaign, injecting cash where it will further hurt the Trump campaign.

    Even more telling was the conversation Trump had tonight with Fox News Channel personality Sean Hannity. After repeating his usual attacks on Biden, saying he was old and declining mentally, Trump said “And he is going to be president because some people don’t love me, maybe. And all I’m doing is doing my job.”

    https://heathercoxrichardson.substack.com/p/june-25-2020

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    Trump must be the most stupid asshole there is; taking healthcare away from anyone, will loose votes for him. Especially elderly Republicans who likely are in desperate need for healthcare. But yeah he wants this country to be "unhealthy" and "dumb", so he can become just like any other African country dictator, just "dump" these people in some mass grave; he will say good riddance; saves the taxpayer money, so he can use it for "walls" or his own bank account.

    Anyway don't you love those Republicans; super egoists that's all they are.

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    • SIX Republican senators — Sens. Collins, Ernst, Gardner, McSally, Murkowski, and Sullivan — broke ranks and joined Democrats to support a bill that aimed to block the Dept. of Justice from backing the lawsuit the Supreme Court will hear a week after the election to overturn Affordable Care Act.
    • McConnell, who previously stated that the Senate would go full steam ahead with a hurried confirmation, is now saying he is open to pushing the vote to after Election Day.
    • The increased frustration from vulnerable Republicans has forced the White House to work in earnest to negotiate a pandemic relief bill with Nancy Pelosi.