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The State of the Union Speech, February 5th

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    The speech is now rescheduled for February 5th. I suppose we can expect another Stephan Miller written speech blasting the Democrats for the shutdown and opposition to the Trump wall as Nancy Pelosi, sitting behind him, sits expressionless enduring his tirade. Whatever he says will not be a surprise, but I very much look forward to Stacy Abrams reply for the Democrats.

    Those opposition replies in the past have often come off poorly as they are read from a teleprompter in an empty room with no audience interruptions for applause. I hope Abrams can change the dynamic and lighten it up a bit instead of a continuous monotone reading of an often boring litany of proposed Democratic initiatives read from a script. She should pause often and say things like "think about that for a minute" as she debunks a Trump lie while throwing in a bit of humor. Let someone like Stephen Colbert review and edit it for her for effectiveness. Make it less "nerdy".

    Sometimes a long pause with a smile after a particular poignant proposal made is more effective than a rapid reading race to finish a script in the allotted time. She must make light hearted pokes at Trump's many lies. Make it entertaining...appealing to one's emotions.

    My opinion.

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    Schmidt Wrote:

    The speech is now rescheduled for February 5th. I suppose we can expect another Stephan Miller written speech blasting the Democrats for the shutdown and opposition to the Trump wall as Nancy Pelosi, sitting behind him, sits expressionless enduring his tirade. Whatever he says will not be a surprise, but I very much look forward to Stacy Abrams reply for the Democrats.

    Those opposition replies in the past have often come off poorly as they are read from a teleprompter in an empty room with no audience interruptions for applause. I hope Abrams can change the dynamic and lighten it up a bit instead of a continuous monotone reading of an often boring litany of proposed Democratic initiatives read from a script. She should pause often and say things like "think about that for a minute" as she debunks a Trump lie while throwing in a bit of humor. Let someone like Stephen Colbert review and edit it for her for effectiveness. Make it less "nerdy".

    Sometimes a long pause with a smile after a particular poignant proposal made is more effective than a rapid reading race to finish a script in the allotted time. She must make light hearted pokes at Trump's many lies. Make it entertaining...appealing to one's emotions.

    My opinion.

    I think I turn the gook box off ; like you said it will be an horrible speech by Trump. Why does not Mueller indict Miller; this Nazi should be jailed asap.
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    The right wing has become something even harder than in anytime we've known there was a hard right, of course democrats will be blamed for everything since JFK was our president.
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    Schmidt:

    I belonged to Toastmasters International for more than 25 years, and learned that the pause is actually the most important part of the speech, because it allows for a few seconds for what you just said to settle into the brain of the person listening to you. According to famed broadcaster Paul Harvey, there are actually 7 different kinds of pauses. If you really want to get technical, there are actually TEN kinds of pauses. Trump is probably the most familiar with the one called "faux pause".

    http://blog.garritys.org/2009/09/kinds-of-pauses.html

    If Stacey Abrams gives the rebuttal, I think that she will be absolutely great. She was not timid about criticizing Brian Kemp, so she is not likely going to be very impressed be "agent orange ".

    If you are a student of history, you may remember that one of the most famous speeches in history was given on February 5. The year was 1946, and the speaker was Winston Churchill.

    Since Trump has trouble talking in complete sentences, his speech will be a lot less impressive. No, I do not plan to watch it.

    https://www.history.com/this-day-in-history/churchill-delivers-iron-curtain-speech

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    I believe Trump will shift and take a more "stateman like" approach in his speech. He has been vilified so much in the media, that he will try prove them wrong by playing the "nice guy" role with a call for bipartisanship.

    Indeed, this Washington Post article quoting Trump aides says "President Trump intends to offer an “aspirational” and “visionary” path for the nation at the State of the Union" while calling on Congressional legislators to work with him on initiatives around infrastructure and health care, immigration enforcement, trade policies with China, and intervention in Venezuela.

    If he remans on script, the media afterward will give him "raves" for being less confrontational than what you typically see in his rallies and Tweets. However, if he uses one or more of those many obedient Republican applauses to go off the teleprompter script, who knows what could happen? It doesn't take much to set him off on a tangent. Will we hear,"build the wall and crime will fall?"

    I will watch the speech out of curiosity as to how the narcissistic, devious sociopath will perform after being knocked down by Nancy Pelosi and vilified by Ann Coulter -- and how the Republicans will respond to the master con artist's one liners, cheering mildly or perhaps wildly at times to give the viewing audience the appearance of party unity.

    It will be a lesson in feeding propaganda to the uninformed.

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    Schmidt Wrote:

    I believe Trump will shift and take a more "stateman like" approach in his speech. He has been vilified so much in the media, that he will try prove them wrong by playing the "nice guy" role with a call for bipartisanship.

    Indeed, this Washington Post article quoting Trump aides says "President Trump intends to offer an “aspirational” and “visionary” path for the nation at the State of the Union" while calling on Congressional legislators to work with him on initiatives around infrastructure and health care, immigration enforcement, trade policies with China, and intervention in Venezuela.

    If he remans on script, the media afterward will give him "raves" for being less confrontational than what you typically see in his rallies and Tweets. However, if he uses one or more of those many obedient Republican applauses to go off the teleprompter script, who knows what could happen? It doesn't take much to set him off on a tangent. Will we hear,"build the wall and crime will fall?"

    I will watch the speech out of curiosity as to how the narcissistic, devious sociopath will perform after being knocked down by Nancy Pelosi and vilified by Ann Coulter -- and how the Republicans will respond to the master con artist's one liners, cheering mildly or perhaps wildly at times to give the viewing audience the appearance of party unity.

    It will be a lesson in feeding propaganda to the uninformed.

    It will be like listening to Hitler, especially if written by Miller.
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    Over 6000 lies trends State of Union into more lies. I hope Stacey Abrams has a super staff on duty picking out and contradicting lies with corrobative evidence. Lot of evidence coming from Trump's staff. Some of the harshest criticism comes from Kellyanne Monday's husband. BTW it defies common sense that Trump doesn't fire Conway. Is she too dangerous to fire???
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    For many watching the State of the Union and the Democrats' response, it may be the first time they have come close to paying attention of what's going on in the country. The 35 day shutdown might stimulate more interest.

    If Trump takes on a more diplomatic tone and Stacy Abrams is in attack mode, it could have a back fire effect on the Democratic Party. To be safe, Abrams might just stick to the Party's stand on major issues and ignore Trump altogether. That type of response, however, might come across as boring and would not fit the fiery Abrams personna.

    In any case, her speech will have already been written without the foreknowledge of what Trump will say. She may be able to make a few last minute off script adjustments depending on what Trump has said before her, but otherwise her vetted script will be on the teleprompter ready to be read soon after Trump's "time of triumph". It has always been a difficult act to follow, and Abrams task will be no different in that regard. The president has the bully pulpit and the opposing parties responses often come across as secondary and anti-climatic after the euphoria of the main event. We'll see.

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    Schmidt Wrote:

    For many watching the State of the Union and the Democrats' response, it may be the first time they have come close to paying attention of what's going on in the country. The 35 day shutdown might stimulate more interest.

    If Trump takes on a more diplomatic tone and Stacy Abrams is in attack mode, it could have a back fire effect on the Democratic Party. To be safe, Abrams might just stick to the Party's stand on major issues and ignore Trump altogether. That type of response, however, might come across as boring and would not fit the fiery Abrams personna.

    In any case, her speech will have already been written without the foreknowledge of what Trump will say. She may be able to make a few last minute off script adjustments depending on what Trump has said before her, but otherwise her vetted script will be on the teleprompter ready to be read soon after Trump's "time of triumph". It has always been a difficult act to follow, and Abrams task will be no different in that regard. The president has the bully pulpit and the opposing parties responses often come across as secondary and anti-climatic after the euphoria of the main event. We'll see.

    Schmidt, sorry but this "banana boat show" will not change anything , especially if Mueller does his job the right way. Speeches alone never helps anyway; facts helps a lot more.
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    Dutch Wrote:
    Schmidt Wrote:

    For many watching the State of the Union and the Democrats' response, it may be the first time they have come close to paying attention of what's going on in the country. The 35 day shutdown might stimulate more interest.

    If Trump takes on a more diplomatic tone and Stacy Abrams is in attack mode, it could have a back fire effect on the Democratic Party. To be safe, Abrams might just stick to the Party's stand on major issues and ignore Trump altogether. That type of response, however, might come across as boring and would not fit the fiery Abrams personna.

    In any case, her speech will have already been written without the foreknowledge of what Trump will say. She may be able to make a few last minute off script adjustments depending on what Trump has said before her, but otherwise her vetted script will be on the teleprompter ready to be read soon after Trump's "time of triumph". It has always been a difficult act to follow, and Abrams task will be no different in that regard. The president has the bully pulpit and the opposing parties responses often come across as secondary and anti-climatic after the euphoria of the main event. We'll see.

    Schmidt, sorry but this "banana boat show" will not change anything , especially if Mueller does his job the right way. Speeches alone never helps anyway; facts helps a lot more.
    I hope Stacey Abrams has a super staff on duty picking out and contradicting lies with corrobative evidence.
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    Schmidt Wrote:

    For many watching the State of the Union and the Democrats' response, it may be the first time they have come close to paying attention of what's going on in the country. The 35 day shutdown might stimulate more interest.

    If Trump takes on a more diplomatic tone and Stacy Abrams is in attack mode, it could have a back fire effect on the Democratic Party. To be safe, Abrams might just stick to the Party's stand on major issues and ignore Trump altogether. That type of response, however, might come across as boring and would not fit the fiery Abrams personna.

    In any case, her speech will have already been written without the foreknowledge of what Trump will say. She may be able to make a few last minute off script adjustments depending on what Trump has said before her, but otherwise her vetted script will be on the teleprompter ready to be read soon after Trump's "time of triumph". It has always been a difficult act to follow, and Abrams task will be no different in that regard. The president has the bully pulpit and the opposing parties responses often come across as secondary and anti-climatic after the euphoria of the main event. We'll see.

    "and Stacy Abrams is in attack mode, it could have a back fire effect on the Democratic Party"

    That is how he demolished 16 Republican candidates and won the election.

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    Chet, such an "circus show" means nothing; "words" don't kill, but "actions" will. In other "words" we will be confronted with the "actions" not the "words".
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    He will hand out this to the crowd, just like the "paper towels"

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    Quick response: Stephen Miller is someone who is 80 years behind his time. He would have fit perfectly in 1938 Germany. I bet he has Twilight Zone dreams where he wakes up as the #1 speech writer of the 3rd Reich. He even dresses like SS officer.
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    Dutch Wrote: Chet, such an "circus show" means nothing; "words" don't kill, but "actions" will. In other "words" we will be confronted with the "actions" not the "words".
    He is dangerous Dutch. He has more of a backing than people will admit. I assure you he bought a lot of Democratic support with his tax cut. He wants that "Trump Wall" for his legacy. Hard to figure what he won't do.