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Donald Trump: the Case for Impeachment

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    It appears that Mitt Romney has replaced John McCain as the voice of conscience in the Republican Party.

    When the only American citizen President Trump singles out for China’s investigation is his political opponent in the midst of the Democratic nomination process, it strains credulity to suggest that it is anything other than politically motivated.

    9:02 AM - Oct 4, 2019

    Mitt Romney@MittRomney

    Replying to @MittRomney

    By all appearances, the President’s brazen and unprecedented appeal to China and to Ukraine to investigate Joe Biden is wrong and appalling.

    9:02 AM - Oct 4, 2019

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    To no one's surprise at all, Trump responded to Romney this morning:

    President Trump lashed out at Sen. Mitt Romney (Utah) on Saturday and called him a "pompous 'a--'" after the Republican senator criticized Trump over his dealings with Ukraine.

    "Somebody please wake up Mitt Romney and tell him that my conversation with the Ukrainian President was a congenial and very appropriate one," Trump asserted in another tweet.

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    Larry Beinhart published a column this morning that has a lot of wisdom.

    "If Trump's falsehoods do not get him impeached or defeated in 2020, the future of American democracy will be bleak".

    "If Trump is taken down - by conviction in the Senate or rejection by the voters - that holds the promise of a reset. If the Democrats running in 2020 offer a vision that addresses this malaise afflicting American society, and if they win, and having won are able to govern effectively, that promises a restoration of America's democracy."

    Ironic, isn't it, that the only thing that will make America great again is a Democratic win?

    http://Graham said that if the reports are true and the plan goes forward he will introduce a "Senate resolution opposing and asking for a reversal of this decision". He predicted such a resolution will have "strong bipartisan support".

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    Your line:" ......the only thing that will make America great again is an Democratic win" is of course ridiculous. As I've said in so many of my threads; it will get only "great again" if the Dem's tackle a lot of things they "forgot" to do while they were in power. Like; laws/limits for any President; like "elections" without money and bribery by the rich; as well let only "votes" count and no other B.S. Thus my fear is that the Dem's do nothing at all to "improve/solidify" our laws related to get rid of our "inbred " corruption" in Washington. If not then after 4 years (if they win) we will be battling the same all over again. They should start right now with all of these things; I bet that no one will "demand" Trumps "tax returns NOW before he can even run for his second term; if not he should not be able to run for the job.

    Naive dumb people here,for sure!!!

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    This morning, a news article popped up from DC Dirty Laundry, which I know is a questionable site. Here is what Media Bias/Fact Check said about the site:

    The reason that I mention the site at all is that yesterdays' headline very much supports Trump's position on the impeachment inquiry:

    "Trump drops the hammer on lying, dishonest Democrats, announces zero cooperation until Dems take an official vote on impeachment".

    Sure enough, the Trump administration just blocked testimony from Gordon Sondland, our ambassador to the E.U. . Text messages show that Sondland was shaping U.S foreign policy in Ukraine. Sondland is far from the first person that Trump ordered not to testify, and I have lost count of the number of subpoenas his administration has ignored.

    Meanwhile, nearly 50% of the participants in a recent Washington Post poll say that the House of Representatives should vote to remove Trump from office.

    If you turn on your "bullshit detector", you may find it interesting to skim through the entire D.C. Dirty Laundry article.

    Here is one example:

    "President Donald Trump has been targeted by Deep State globalists, Democrats, and their lackeys in the “mainstream” media for removal from office ever since he defeated the most corrupt candidate ever — Hillary Clinton.

    Initially, the deep state launched “Spygate” to undermine the president and try to invent evidence which they could use to drive him from office. The “Russian collusion” scandal was part of that effort."

    As Dutch has said many times, bring me the barf bucket.

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    Sorry, the barf bucket is overflowing right now; I called the fire brigade to hose the place down.

    And people still think that this is an "normal" Democratic country? Please bring me an larger barf bucket!

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    The New York Times also had a comment this morning about Trump's decision to stonewall:

    Trump is obviously not smart enough to understand the implications of refusing to cooperate:

    Mr. Trump, defiant as investigators dig further into his efforts to pressure Ukraine to find dirt on his political rivals, declared the inquiry illegitimate in a signal that he plans to stonewall Congress, an act that could itself build the case for charging him in an impeachment proceeding with obstruction.

    “I would love to send Ambassador Sondland, a really good man and great American, to testify,” Mr. Trump wrote on Twitter Tuesday morning around the time Mr. Sondland was to appear, “but unfortunately he would be testifying before a totally compromised kangaroo court, where Republican’s rights have been taken away.”

    Trump personal attorney Rudolph W. Giuliani said Tuesday that he would not cooperate with House investigators and that he “can’t imagine” that anyone from the Trump administration would appear before a Democratic-led panel investigating the president.

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    Since Sondlund works for the State Department, he is required to comply with its orders - and Mike Pompeo does not want Sondlund to testify. As a result, the House of Representatives was forced to issue ANOTHER subpoena to compel him to testify.

    There are really only 2 unknowns at this point:

    1) the number of articles of impeachment that the House will file against Trump and

    (2) when the articles of impeachment will be issued.

    If I were Pelosi, I would file the two or three worst offenses for now, and file the remaining dozen of so after he is out of office, when he is no longer a sitting president.

    My guess is that the articles will be filed sometime before the end of the year.

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    In an 8 page letter to Nancy Pelosi, White House counsel Pat Cippolone said that Pelosi and her panels simply wanted to remove Trump from office.

    "Your inquiry lacks any legitimate constitutional foundation, any pretense of fairness, or even the most elementary due process protections,"

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    The "back" and "forth" will not work; I think only something drastic has to be done. Just shoving all kinds of "subpoena's" will not work. It is time to get "real honest impartial " judges involved; this game of "cat" and "mouse" can last until the elections; don't forget Trump has "raised" over 125 million, so he can buy lots of "adds" etc. plus "bribe" all he likes.
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    This morning, Al Jazeera published another detailed list of the activities related to the impeachment process.

    Here's the items that surprised me:

    Perry was sent by Trump instead of Vice President Mike Pence to attend Ukraine President Volodymyr Zelensky's inauguration in Kiev in May.

    Perry was also involved in a push to replace the CEO and board of supervisors of Naftogaz, Ukraine's massive state-owned natural gas company, with people allied with Trump, according to media reports the House is investigating.

    Former Republican congressman Trey Gowdy will serve as outside counsel to Trump as the House impeachment inquiry expands, according to an unnamed administration official who spoke to the Associated Press.

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    According to the Wall Street Journal, it does not appear that the Republicans in the Senate are going to dismiss the articles of impeachment that the House will undoubtedly pass in the near future. At this point, more than a dozen have been at least somewhat critical of Mr. Trump’s behavior concerning Ukraine." Currently, there are 53 Republican senators, 45 Democrats, and 2 Independents. Assuming that the 45 Democrats and 2 independents vote for impeachment, that means it would take 20 Republicans to complete the 67 votes necessary to remove Trump from office.

    Realistically, we already have 12 who would join the Democrats, and it's not much of a stretch to visualize Mitt Romney convincing at least 8 more to vote against Trump.

    If Amy McGrath wins McConnell's seat, and a few more Democrats win elsewhere (including Arizona) that may be enough for Trump to see the handwriting on the wall, and resign before the first of the year, since he is even MORE likely to get impeached after January 20.

    THAT would be a mighty nice present for Thanksgiving!

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    My answer is; Don't sell the "bears" meat before you've shot it. Amen
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    US Defense Secretary Mark Esper said Sunday the Pentagon would cooperate with the congressional impeachment inquiry -- in an apparent break with President Donald Trump's policy to thwart the probe.

    It's worth noting that Esper has only been the Secretary of Defense only since July 23, 2019. Prior to that, he was secretary of the Army.

    Democrats slapped subpoenas Monday on the Pentagon and White House, demanding documents tied to Trump's withholding of almost $400 million desperately needed by Kiev in its conflict with Russia over Moscow's 2014 annexation of Crimea.

    On Tuesday, Trump's White House counsel Pat Cipollone sent senior Democrats an eight-page letter declaring the inquiry illegitimate. The letter has been rejected by experts as having little legal basis.

    Sunday's morning talk shows, in a repeat of last week, were notable for the absence of key administration officials willing to publicly defend Trump's actions.

    TIME magazine aptly described Trump's position a few weeks ago:

    Lawmakers on both sides of he aisle agree that Trump's decision on Syria is foolish. Since nobody apparently is willing to defend him publicly, I think the impeachments votes (in both the House and the Senate) are getting closer each passing day.

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    In a column for the Daily Beast, political observer Micheal Tomasky speculated — and not without good reason — that a frantic Donald Trump will do anything to remain in office and thereby avoid being slammed with criminal indictments once he departs the Oval Office for good..

    Option number one, he explained is to declare impeachment unconstitutional — a ploy his lawyers are already attempting with a letter to the Democrats.

    Option two, he wrote, is just keep lying and painting more and more pictures of a “Deep State” conspiracy bound and determined to pull off a coup.

    Lastly, and Trump has been promoting this since he first was elected despite losing the popular vote: “Delegitimize the 2020 election.”