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Donald Trump: the Case for Impeachment

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    The circular firing squad is lined up at the White House.

    The turmoil reminds me of the 1971 film, "The Gang who couldn't shoot straight"".

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Gang_That_Couldn%27t_Shoot_Straight_(film)

    Acting chief of staff Mick Mulvaney has urged aides not to comply with the inquiry and blocked any cooperation with congressional Democrats. Mulvaney’s office blames White House counsel Pat Cipollone for not doing more to stop other government officials from participating.

    Cipollone, meanwhile, has fumed that Mulvaney only made matters worse with his Oct. 17 news conference, when he publicly acknowledged a quid pro quo, essentially confirming Democrats’ accusations in front of television cameras and reporters.

    Neither Mulvaney nor Cipollone has broad experience navigating a White House through such a tumultuous period.

    The Office of Management and Budget has served as Mulvaney’s biggest bulwark, because it played a key role in blocking nearly $400 million in security aid to Ukraine over the summer.

    Trump, naturally, has been blaming both Mulvaney and Cipolline for his problems.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/us-policy/2019/11/11/white-house-war-with-itself-even-it-fights-impeachment-inquiry/

    Trump, of course, is making matters even worst himself by undercutting his own "spinners". As a substantive matter, Trump’s line contains three separate statements. Two are lies, and the third is a knee-slapping absurdity.

    See the source image

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2019/11/12/trump-just-undercut-his-own-spinners-latest-line-propaganda/

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    This is admittedly somewhat off topic but last night I watched Bill Maher through a streaming service I use. He says so many poignant things. The president has been charged with raising millions of dollars for Veterans and not giving it to them. He paid some staffers instead. Where's the strong Democratic voice to point out the stealing from Veterans ? As always Dems won't raise their voice or say anything less than polite. Looks very similar to fear and cowardice.

    If others have access to watch Bill Maher, it's highly recommended. Enjoyable and informative.

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    Tomorrow, ABC, CBS, NBC, and PBS will preempt regular programming and join cable news organizations in airing the impeachment hearings live . Previous high-profile congressional testimonies in the Trump era generated huge viewership. 20 million viewers watched Dr. Christine Blasey Ford testify about then-Supreme Court nominee Brett Kavanaugh's alleged attempted rape, but my guess is that tomorrow's broadcast will be seen by more people than that.

    It's not likely that FOX will air the hearings, but I would expect that you'll get coverage from CNN and MSNBC.

    https://shareblue.com/impeachment-hearings-donald-trump-ukraine-bill-taylor-george-kent-congress/?fbclid=IwAR3muESr-SJ8BFAIbWhc-KEq0NzPxHU9kSup-yXDRJhW-AnbtqbIcwYPGug

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    I think that the viewers are more interested in the "circus" which will be made by Meadows, Jordan and others, than hearing "facts" about their great leader's bribery's all over the place. How about the "pocket money" he bribes from the "wall" contracts, as well the war goodies he "sell's" to the Saudi's etc. etc. Is n't time to investigated all his bribery's! Where is the money of the inauguration? His slush fund to pay off people all the time? Buying "loyalty" all the time? What is he giving Graham, Miller, McConnell etc. to stay "loyal"? How about the "murders" he initiated of Khashoggi and Epstein. Yes right now we are the most corrupt country in the world, lets "buy" some elections, and people etc. Yes this Titanic will sink eventually, but the rats will leave the ship in time with the loot, I bet.

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    80% of Americans know their expectations before it even starts. Partisan politics is very very bad.
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    I listened to the first 30 minutes or so this morning on NPR, and I was impressed with the professionalism of both Adam Schiff and William Taylor. It didn't take more than a few minutes to realize that Trump needs to be removed from office as soon as possible. Although forcing him to resign is an attractive plan, it is MUCH better to go through the entire process so that ALL of his misdeeds can be exposed to the public. If he resigns, he will still get a government pension, Secret Service protection, and other miscellaneous perks.

    If he actually gets impeached, he gets squat.

    An hour later, I turned NPR back on, and had the misfortune to hear Jim Jordan asking questions. After shouting expletives at the radio for a few minutes, I turned it off. An hour later, I heard another Republican a**hole grilling somebody else, and had to turn if off again.

    It's obvious that the Republicans are doing their best to discredit witnesses, even though anyone with a brain knows that Trump should be arrested and removed from office as soon as possible.

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    The main problem is that the "documents" needed to "proof" things were not available, because Trump and his cronies stopped them from being released. ; this includes all the "notes" the two witnesses wrote related to the "case".

    Thus Trump should also be impeached based upon obstruction and not solely on the Ukraine thing.

    In my opinion as with the Kavanaugh hearings, such "shows" as yesterday don't help much if the "laws" for Presidents stay the same over time and eventually the "bullies" take over, so you never will get the evidence without changing the laws here.

    First of all "limit" the powers of an President, that should be "priority" number one. If not then we will stay the same or getting worse by trying to get "proof" from mafia trained "dictators" and the "bullies" of the future.

    Don't forget McConnell, he will likely be the biggest obstacle yet to come; so if the real "proof" cannot be provided, due to blocking of the evidence by Trump and his cronies, what then?

    I fear the most for this country, the ship is barely afloat.

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    The New York Times this morning had a number of excellent articles about yesterday's hearings. Although the conservatives will ignore them all because they would consider NYT to be "fake News", more telling is the fact that even FOX thought that yesterday was a triumph for the Democrats.

    https://occupydemocrats.com/2019/11/13/fox-news-legal-analyst-admits-today-was-very-good-for-democrats-who-want-to-shorten-trumps-presidency/

    There are a lot of people who agree with me that Jim Jordan is a complete ass. Jordan has a grotesque quality of speaking fast, saying nothing, and then acting like he’s smugly made a point.

    (Note: I was a used car salesman for 7 years, and learned long ago that fast talkers are always liars)

    The Twitter comments in the article below are hysterical.

    Here's my favorite:

    “As I testified, Mr. Jordan…” is the classiest way I’ve ever heard someone say, “Listen, shit burger.

    https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2019/11/13/1899191/-Twitter-has-a-field-day-with-Jim-Jordan-s-craven-behavior-at-impeachment-hearing?detail=emaildkre

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    Trump's latest fund-raising letter is proof that he is getting crazier by the day:

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    Are you watching this FAKE IMPEACHMENT HEARING?

    It’s absolutely ridiculous. Did Adam Shifty Schiff and the rest of the Radical Democrats even read the transcript before they went to work? If they had, they would’ve called OFF this WITCH HUNT TRIAL because I DID NOTHING WRONG.

    Where is the DUE PROCESS?!

    IT’S SO SIMPLE: JUST READ THE TRANSCRIPT!


    I cannot sit by and let this happen. As a true American Patriot, YOU cannot sit by and let this happen, Thomas.

    That’s why I’m calling on my TOP SUPPORTERS, like Thomas in Arizona, to step up and make a statement so HUGE, and so EPIC, that the Democrats will LOSE. THEIR. MINDS.

    I met with Brad to go over the fundraising numbers, and we CRUSHED our $3,000,000 goal. I realize now that $3 MILLION isn’t enough. We need to something INCREDIBLE to end this once and for all. I’ve decided to raise the goal to $5 MILLION DOLLARS.


    This goal is so critical, that I’ve spoken with a group of donors and they’ve agreed to raise their original match to a TRIPLE-MATCH on ALL CONTRIBUTIONS!


    Please contribute $5 by MIDNIGHT TONIGHT to stand with me in this IMPEACHMENT WITCH HUNT FIGHT and your gift will be instantly TRIPLE-MATCHED. >>

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    Today's testimony by Former ambassador Marie Yovanovitch was a reminder that our country is actually being led by a mob boss.

    Here's a few key phrases:

    Yovanovitch’s account was, instead, deeply personal, colored with outrage over having been “knee-capped” by lies and her abrupt recall from a country about whose fate she cared deeply. After a “smear campaign” she said involved Trump’s personal lawyer, Rudy Giuliani, and was amplified by cable news hosts and the president’s oldest son, Donald, Jr., she was directed in April 2019 to come back to Washington on the next plane because she no longer had the confidence of the president.

    Yovanovitch left no doubt that she interpreted some of the Trump’s cryptic comments about her — “she’s going to go through some things,” among them — in the most chilling way.

    “It didn’t sound good,” she said. “It sounded like a threat.”

    Schiff read Trump’s tweet to Yovanovitch and suggested it was part of a campaign of “witness intimidation.”

    https://apnews.com/7ab66a0977a644c4adc16d19a0d416f4

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    The Democrats are leaving no Stone unturned.

    Roger Stone, friend and and adviser to Trump was just found guilty of lying to the House Intelligence Committee, trying to block the testimony of another potential witness and concealing reams of evidence from investigators. He was found guilty of all seven counts he was charged with.

    Within minutes of the verdict, Mr. Trump protested on Twitter that it was unfair. “So they now convict Roger Stone of lying and want to jail him for many years to come.” In one of the trial’s most revealing moments, Mr. Gates recounted a July 31, 2016, phone call between Mr. Stone and Mr. Trump, just days after WikiLeaks had released a trove of emails embarrassing the Clinton campaign. As soon as he hung up with Mr. Stone, Mr. Gates testified, Mr. Trump declared that “more information” was coming, an apparent reference to future releases from WikiLeaks that would rattle his political rival.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2019/11/15/us/politics/roger-stone-trial-guilty.html

    Mr. Stone, 67, joins a notable list of former Trump aides convicted of lying to federal authorities. It includes Mr. Gates; Michael T. Flynn, the former national security adviser; Michael D. Cohen, the president’s longtime personal lawyer and fixer, and George Papadopoulos, a former Trump campaign aide. And his former campaign chairman Paul Manafort, who was also once Mr. Stone’s partner in a political consulting firm, was convicted of a string of financial crimes and is serving a seven-and-a-half-year prison term.

    The most serious charge against Mr. Stone, witness tampering, carries a maximum penalty of 20 years in prison. The other charges carry a maximum of five years each. But the punishment for a first-time offender like Mr. Stone will almost certainly be much lighter.

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    Arizona -- Thanks for sharing all the links. I watched all the testimonies as well as the coverage of the Roger Stone guilty verdicts. Now on top of that the David Holmes testimony of the Sondland cellphone call to Trump with everyone at the restaurant table listening in will be devastating to Trump as it is first hand knowledge and not hearsay. Sondland's public testimony on Wednesday will be critical. He has already perjured himself, and if he corroborates the Holmes testimony then Republicans will not be able to spin this one. If he doesn't corroborate, then it becomes more problematic. It depends on how well Trump can tamper with this witness before Wednesday.
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    Schmidt/Arizona, absolutely correct. I'm afraid Sondland will be an "no show", Trump will make sure of that; Sondland invested a million dollars with Trump, so Trump will do him a favor. When will this "wild west" movie end?; will the "cowboys" or the "indians" win? Sorry people the 8 year old wants to have his ice cream, if not he will ruin the whole house.
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    SNL came up with another classic last night. This one was titled "Days of Our Impeachment".

    https://www.nytimes.com/2019/11/17/arts/television/snl-impeachment-jon-hamm-harry-styles.html?smid=nytcore-ios-share

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    During last week's testimony, on Wednesday, motormouth "Gym" Jordan said the 2nd hand evidence could not be used because it was prohibited by the 6th amendment.

    For the record, this is what the 6th amendment says:

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    Amendment VI

    In all criminal prosecutions, the accused shall enjoy the right to a speedy and public trial, by an impartial jury of the state and district wherein the crime shall have been committed, which district shall have been previously ascertained by law, and to be informed of the nature and cause of the accusation; to be confronted with the witnesses against him; to have compulsory process for obtaining witnesses in his favor, and to have the assistance of counsel for his defense.

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    Two State Department officials — Deputy Assistant Secretary of State George Kent and acting ambassador to Ukraine William B. Taylor Jr. - testified against Trump last week, so technically could say that he was confronted by the witnesses against him. Strictly speaking, the 6th amendment says nothing about second hand evidence.

    More importantly, the impeachment hearings are NOT a trial, so any rules that might negate second hand evidence are inapplicable.

    More critically, the people who DO have first hand evidence were prevented from testifying, which would constitute witness tampering and/or obstruction of justice, BOTH OF WHICH ARE IMPEACHABLE OFFENSES.