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Donald Trump: the Case for Impeachment

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    I honestly doubt that they have an backbone to go against Trump; don't forget they accepted the "loyalty oath" instead of the Constitution. I doubt if it is that easy; they will fight the Dem's forever,which ever way, ask Meadows, Jordan and Miller as well Graham. Amen
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    News reports this morning popped up that, although unrelated to impeachment, provide a clue what what COULD happen with an impeachment vote in the Senate.

    The Senate Foreign Relations Committee’s top Democrat and a close congressional ally of President Donald Trump are teaming up to try to block 22 arms deals largely benefiting Saudi Arabia, a move that seeks to quash the administration’s attempt to use emergency powers to circumvent congressional objections.

    (If that sounds familiar, that's because that is the same excuse that Trump used to attempt to pull money from the military to build a wall on our southern border, over the objection of Congress).

    By the way, the 1987 Missile Technology Control Regime, an informal understanding among 35 countries, bans Saudi Arabia from buying ballistic missiles from the US and others. China, however, is not a signatory. As a result, Saudi Arabia is currently in the process of buying missile technology from China. On Wednesday, CNN reported that the United States government had obtained intelligence on the technology transfers, but the administration of US President Donald Trump did not initially share its knowledge with key members of Congress.

    https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2019/06/saudi-buying-ballistic-missile-technology-china-report-190606054204929.html

    Joining the Democrats in the effort is Sen. Lindsey Graham, R-S.C., who said Tuesday that he is “on board with Menendez.” Graham, who is one of Trump’s closest allies in Congress, has also been one of the most vocal critics of his embrace of Saudi leaders, particularly in the wake of last year’s brutal murder of Saudi journalist Jamal Khashoggi.

    https://www.mercurynews.com/2019/06/04/senate-plans-bipartisan-effort-to-blocks-saudi-arms-deals/

    Sen. Tim Kaine, D-Va., citing information from the Department of Energy, announced Tuesday that the Trump administration had allowed U.S. nuclear energy companies to share technology and other information with Saudi Arabia on Oct. 18, 2018 – just 16 days after Khashoggi was killed at the Saudi Consulate in Istanbul – and again Feb. 18, 2019, less than a week after the House voted to end U.S. backing for the Saudi-led military effort in Yemen’s civil war.

    Trump is using an "unspecified emergency declaration" (translated as Iran) to facilitate 22 arms sales totaling $8 billion to Saudi Arabia. To quote Senator Tim Kaine, "I have serious questions about whether any decisions on nuclear transfers were made based on the Trump family’s financial ties rather than the interest of the American people. President Trump’s eagerness to give the Saudis anything they want, over bipartisan congressional objection, harms American national security interest and is one of many steps the administration is taking that is fueling a dangerous escalation of tension in the region.”

    Don't kid yourself. Sales of nuclear technology to Saudi Arabia definitely had financial benefits for relatives of Trump. Last August, a company called Brookfield Asset Management bailed out Jared Kucsner's white elephant at 666 Fifth Avenue by signing a 99 year lease - and paying the whole sum of $1.1 billion up front. Coincidentally, Brookfield also owns Westinghouse Electric, THE NUCLEAR SERVICES BUSINESS TRYING TO SELL REACTORS TO SAUDI ARABIA.

    I don't care if you call that transaction an emolument, a quid pro quo, or just a crooked deal, it is definitely wrong.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2019/03/02/opinion/sunday/saudi-arabia-jared-kushner-nuclear.html

    The irony of the Kushner bailout is that the Qatar Investment Authority acquired a 9% share in Brookfield 5 years ago, so their investment is actually helping the country that started a boycott against Qatar.

    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/qatar-jared-kushner-skyscraper-brookfield-trump-doha-saudi-arabia-mbs-a8775651.html

    Even the Republicans in the Senate know that Trump is a great danger to our country. As a result, it is not beyond comprehension that enough of them could vote for Trump's impeachment that it actually could happen.

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    Arizona, I guess no one on this site does care, let alone the Trump "mob". I'm only amazed that (as I wrote a million times), that the laws are so weak and convoluted that all of this is possible without any oversight. Let alone the "crime" family of Trump and Kussner, who don't even belong in the W.H.; where is the "emolument" clause? I guess in the "garbage".

    Yes, an real "banana republic".

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    If I were more polite, I wouldn't call Nancy Pelosi a "ball buster", but she definitely is.

    Last night, House Speaker Nancy Pelosi told congressional colleagues on Wednesday evening that she wanted to see Trump "in prison" after he was out of office and prosecuted for crimes rather than impeached.

    https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2019/06/06/pelosi-says-she-wants-trump-in-prison-rather-than-impeached/1366686001/

    Pelosi had been holding a regular check-in meeting with the chairs of five congressional committees that are currently conducting investigations into the president. Pelosi, for her part, has tried to tamp down a drive for impeachment within the House Democratic caucus.

    Trump, in an interview with Fox on Thursday, slammed Pelosi for wanting Mueller to testify before Congress.

    Trump said, "Nancy Pelosi, I call her Nervous Nancy...Nancy Pelosi is a disaster, OK? She’s a disaster. Let her do what she wants, you know what? I think they’re in big trouble.”

    Reading between the lines, I think that it is safe to say that Trump is terrified about what the Democrats are going to do to him.

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    that guy in AZ Wrote:

    If I were more polite, I wouldn't call Nancy Pelosi a "ball buster", but she definitely is.

    Nearly everyone in DC perceives her as a mastermind of democratic politics. If she were a chess player, she can see 100 moves ahead. It really is a question if she can see 100 moves ahead of Donald Trump with all powers of the presidency. If she can, then Trump has already lost.

    The problem trying to out guess Trump is that Trump is only predictable upto a point. If he gets a phone call from Putin tomorrow, Trump could, would any warning, decide sell Alaska back to Russia for pennies on the dollar.... So Pelosi might be one of the smartest in the room, Trump has proven he can beat smart people by doing stupid things that are nearly impossible to predict.

    As president he has the power to instantly create firestorms that can take years or decades to put out, and that is what everyone fears; he going to do something extremely stupid that is on par with Captian of the Titanic running the ship into an ice burg. Everyone knows he is that stupid, and if given 100 options, he going to pick the worst one as his first choice.

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    wwjd and Arizona; both you guys got it right; however Pelosi should put all the effort in obtaining the "tax returns" as well the Deutsche Bank records. They will give enough evidence of "crimes" (tax evasion and money laundering) all the other things are only window dressing. As long as they don't have these things as prove; then"impeachment" will be torpedoed in no time by all kinds of "lawyers" and GOP tricks. As well they have to hurry, because Barr will be an "block" in the way as well all the fanatic cronies around Trump. So first they should try to get rid of Barr and Mnuchin, as well the head of the IRS; impeach them first. Then get the "proof" (but hurry, because they may "destroy" the proof)
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    wwjd:

    There is no question that Pelosi is a lot smarter than Trump. As proof that she really knows how to "push his buttons", an article in Townhall this morning confirms the fact that her zinger got his attention. He called her "a nasty woman", a phrase that he had previously used on Hillary Clinton.

    https://townhall.com/tipsheet/mattvespa/2019/06/07/president-trump-torches-pelosi-shes-an-untalented-nasty-and-vindictive-disgr-n2547739

    Unfortunately, Trump's supporters are still living in La La land, as evidenced by the last paragraph:

    Still, it’s refreshing to see classic Trump, a man who can take the hatred hurled at him, but also strike back just as effectively. After two years of being on defense with the Trump-Russia collusion myth, which was debunked by the Mueller report, it’s time to go on the offensive.

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    that guy in AZ Wrote:

    wwjd:

    There is no question that Pelosi is a lot smarter than Trump. As proof that she really knows how to "push his buttons", an article in Townhall this morning confirms the fact that her zinger got his attention. He called her "a nasty woman", a phrase that he had previously used on Hillary Clinton.

    My hope is that she already just a few moves away from checkmate, and that her real objective is not to impeach Trump, but to get him to resign.

    An example would be is that she has classified information that is not yet public because she (and others) are legally forbidden to make the classified info public, but there are key people who can testify before congress that would provide evidence that would force Trump to resign.

    Love to see classified documents made public that shows Trump laundering money with the Russians, stuff like that would have Trump backed into a corner leaving him with the only option to resign... If that were to happen, just like Nixon, VP Mike Pence would quickly pardon Trump.... And BTW, Pence is at the top of the list of people who want Trump to resign. By default Pence gets to be President and the Republican #1 candidate in 2020 with no dirt on his hands. Pence is as slimy as they come; he is waiting in the shadows for Trump to be forced out of office.

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    that guy in AZ Wrote:

    wwjd:

    There is no question that Pelosi is a lot smarter than Trump. As proof that she really knows how to "push his buttons", an article in Townhall this morning confirms the fact that her zinger got his attention. He called her "a nasty woman", a phrase that he had previously used on Hillary Clinton.

    My hope is that she already just a few moves away from checkmate, and that her real objective is not to impeach Trump, but to get him to resign.

    An example would be is that she has classified information that is not yet public because she (and others) are legally forbidden to make the classified info public, but there are key people who can testify before congress that would provide evidence that would force Trump to resign.

    Love to see classified documents made public that shows Trump laundering money with the Russians, stuff like that would have Trump backed into a corner leaving him with the only option to resign... If that were to happen, just like Nixon, VP Mike Pence would quickly pardon Trump.... And BTW, Pence is at the top of the list of people who want Trump to resign. By default Pence gets to be President and the Republican #1 candidate in 2020 with no dirt on his hands. Pence is as slimy as they come; he is waiting in the shadows for Trump to be forced out of office.

    So do you really want Pence to take over? He's even worse than Trump; like you said he's an slimeball without any morals, he fits right in with Miller. The only way is that in 2020 the people here wake up and vote for an "new" competent government, without these incompetent Trump lovers. So the best thing is that he does not resign, because if Pence stays then all these stupid evangelicals will vote for him and all the Trump clowns stay in place till at least 2024.
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    Yes, I would take Pence any day over Trump. Pence makes his decisions based on his ideology and standard of ethics, and for the most part is willing to play the the rules of law. Trump does not give a flying fuck about anything that not about him, but he knows other do care about a lots of other things, so he can hold those people\issues hostage at a moments notice if he is not getting his personal needs met. He has no hesitation to dangle threats (put a gun to the heads of others), to cause other to back down. Just knowing he can do the unpredictable at any moment causes congress to be perpetual state of hesitation to do anything because Trump will threaten to cut somebody's head off, much like taking separating children from their families with no way to bring them back together. Shit like that is what Trump is all about, and need to go,m e
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    Even before John Dean testified yesterday, Trump was already going crazy, calling him a "sleazebag". Dean's response to Trump's madness is a classic:

    Would someone get Trump a dog. He needs a friend so he won’t endlessly vent on Twitter. He’s uninterested in government and policy. He doesn’t read. He doesn’t exercise. He has no real friends. A dog might save humankind. Admittedly, it a lot to ask of a dog. But help is needed.

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    https://www.huffpost.com/entry/john-dean-donald-trump-testimony_n_5cfdf994e4b04e90f1cbd8db

    Naturally, FOX "news" also has a lot opinion of Dean:

    "If John Dean is your star witness and he's the lead-off batter, it shows how bad things will get. He was described as a master manipulator in the Watergate scandal. He's a felon and he's been disbarred. His only role these days is to be a sort of house trained poodle for the Democrats."

    https://crooksandliars.com/2019/06/fox-news-smears-john-dean-he-testifies

    The irony lost on FOX is that the felon recently pardoned by Trump, Dinesh D'Souza, is a constant mainstay on the airwaves of Fox News, supporting Trump in every way while he tries to rewrite American history. You'd think Fox would live up to it's own high standards, but it's okay if you're a Republican, always, on Fox.

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    Sorry, no dog for him; once he gets an tantrum he will use the dog to vent it; poor little thing. Also he and his family hate "animals". They love to kill protected animals in Africa. Trump just reversed the import of elephant "parts". Furthermore an "woman" Trump supporter just killed an "black protected unique" giraffe and had the meat shipped to the US; it was "delicious" she said. Please bring the barf bucket. Trump has no respect for "humans" let alone "animals" . People like that should never ever get the position of President.
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    Dutch:

    Here's why Trump should get a dog:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tn3MX1THDec

    As of this week, 83 members of Congress support an impeachment inquiry, 109 are either undecided, or want to wait a while, and 241 members had not responded to the survey about impeachment.

    https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2019/05/31/us/politics/trump-impeachment-congress-list.html

    So the unanswered question is "should he stay or should he go"?:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m8Ek3wqWSs0

    here's the original 1981 version by Clash:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BN1WwnEDWAM

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    Yes, all fun, but no action. If things stay as they are day by day, then sorry my predictions will come out. This country is going down the tubes!! The chaos is "normal" now and lots of people don't care any more, neither Melania's coat.

    Yes this country is going to the "dogs". Which means "chaos" and an total "incompetent bunch of idiots" running this "banana republic" I even will bet, that eventually we will catch up with Venezuela.

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    Rep Al Green's resolution to start the process of impeaching President Donald Trump was tabled Wednesday by a vote of 364-58. "Now is not the time."

    Perhaps after hearing Robert Mueller's testimony next week (July 24), an initiative to the start the impeachment process will get new life. But then Congress leaves immediately (July 26th) on their summer holiday not returning until September 9th.

    Nothing will happen until after September 9th when the House returns to work.