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Trump Directed Cohen to Lie to Congress About Moscow Project

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    Donald Trump instructed his then personal lawyer Michael Cohen to lie to Congress about his long sought after Trump Tower Moscow project when he testified before both House and Senate committees investigating Russian interference in the 2016 Presidential election. If true, the sitting President of the United States knowingly committed a felony in an attempt to obstruct justice.

    It's impossible to overstate how, as Joe Biden would say, big of a fucking deal this is. It directly implicates Donald in felonious acts and lays bare for all to see that he knowingly committed a crime. Donald and his lackeys can attack Cohen as much as they want, but if Mueller has proof that Donald committed a felony then they may eventually have no other choice than to abandon ship.

    Times like these remind me why political history is one of my favorite subjects to study. Many people look back at the Nixon episode as a time when both Republicans and Democrats banded together for the greater good of the country, but that's not remotely close to what happened. Republicans protected Nixon with all of their might until it became politically impossible for them to keep doing so. Then and only then was Nixon cast aside.

    I don't know if that's what will happen this time around, but it's going to be harder and harder for Donald's lackeys to protect him if the walls keep closing in.

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    I agree. What is infuriating is that if President Obama had committed 1/10 of what Trump has done, those self-righteous Republicans would have impeached Obama in a heart beat. As you point out, the Republicans protected Nixon until all the evidence was "blinking red", but later also the Republicans protected Reagan in the Iran-Contra arms sales. Republicans likewise will protect Trump to the bitter end...and then do a 180 course shift like nothing they said or did before mattered.

    As I understand it, Michael Cohen was not the source of these Buzzfeed allegations, but Trump is now casting dispersions on him while also threatening his father-in-law as a way to place pressure on Cohen prior to his testimony before Congress. How can he do that? Will he have help from his Russian mafia friends? I'm reminded of this scene from the Godfather:

    Godfather: The Horse's head.

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    The only other point that must be made quite strongly is that the various House committees investigating this particular "felony" as well as the many others, need 100 percent slam dunk cases against the president. Otherwise, the Republican controlled Senate will not convict. The Senate requires 67 votes to convict...a high hurdle of 47 Democrats and Independents and 20 Republicans. Those 20 Republicans will not convict unless the polls show they have lost their constituents.

    To achieve these goals, the various charges must be coordinated with the findings of the Mueller investigation. If the House committees get ahead of the Mueller investigation, they might jeopardize the ability to bring the "Big Fish" to justice.

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    Washington Post: In a rare move, Mueller’s office denies BuzzFeed report that Trump told Cohen to lie about Moscow project

    "Special Counsel Robert S. Mueller III’s office on Friday denied an explosive report by BuzzFeed News that his investigators had gathered evidence showing President Trump directed his former lawyer, Michael Cohen, to lie to Congress about a prospective business deal in Moscow.

    “BuzzFeed’s description of specific statements to the special counsel’s office, and characterization of documents and testimony obtained by this office, regarding Michael Cohen’s congressional testimony are not accurate,” said Peter Carr, a spokesman for Mueller."

    Don't know much more except that Buzzfeed has issued a counter statement that they stand by the accuracy of their report.

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    Right now immediately a special investigation should be called to establish the truth of Trump instructing Cohen to lie to Congress. This is too important to ignore.

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    We already have investigations underway in the House. And Mueller is also investigating. Why do we need a special investigation when the subject is already under investigation?
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    A very strange move by the Mueller team; I wonder if indeed it was the Mueller team, or someone "planted" this Mueller info on purpose. Weird indeed. Looking at this then why say it is incorrect, but not say what is incorrect, such gives the idea Mueller is on the side of Trump. I often wonder about that; don't forget he's an Republican. May be wants to make an report that "mellows" things; just not enough to impeach etc. I never will trust an Republican in judgement they way they act.
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    Schmidt Wrote: We already have investigations underway in the House. And Mueller is also investigating. Why do we need a special investigation when the subject is already under investigation?
    Narrow focus and timeliness. These charges rise to the highest level of cupability and challenge the Presidents right to rule. If he instructed Cohen to lie to Congress that is the executive branch subverting the legislative branch.
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    Dutch Wrote: A very strange move by the Mueller team; I wonder if indeed it was the Mueller team, or someone "planted" this Mueller info on purpose. Weird indeed. Looking at this then why say it is incorrect, but not say what is incorrect, such gives the idea Mueller is on the side of Trump. I often wonder about that; don't forget he's an Republican. May be wants to make an report that "mellows" things; just not enough to impeach etc. I never will trust an Republican in judgement they way they act.
    Mueller by his statement highlighted the fact that there is testimony relative to Trump instructing Cohen to lie. That will make it difficult for Barr to help Trump.
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    Anyone here read BuzzFeed? I'd always thought they were right leaning, correct me if I'm wrong, but couldn't BuzzFeed be what they call Fake News? (unreliable)

    "Despite Buzzfeed's entrance into serious journalism, a 2014 Pew Research Center survey found that in the United States, BuzzFeed was viewed as an unreliable source by the majority of respondents, regardless of age or political affiliation.[12] Buzzfeed News has since moved to its own domain rather than exist as a section of the main Buzzfeed website"

    en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BuzzFeed

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    Dutch Wrote: A very strange move by the Mueller team; I wonder if indeed it was the Mueller team, or someone "planted" this Mueller info on purpose. Weird indeed. Looking at this then why say it is incorrect, but not say what is incorrect, such gives the idea Mueller is on the side of Trump. I often wonder about that; don't forget he's an Republican. May be wants to make an report that "mellows" things; just not enough to impeach etc. I never will trust an Republican in judgement they way they act.

    I don't read into the Mueller pushback anything more than what it suggests. The Buzzfeed article makes some allegations which probably will not be born out in Mueller's investigation...that is they have to stand the scrutiny of the law. Innuendo and circumstantial evidence works fine for the media, including Buzzfeed, to get their ratings, but the standards are much higher in the court of law.

    I think Mueller just wanted to head off all the impeachment talk and "lynchin'" in the world of public opinion when the level of proof falls short. I suppose we'll know in due course when Mueller issues his report or maybe earlier when Cohen testifies before the House Oversight Committee on February 7th.

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    Dutch Wrote: A very strange move by the Mueller team; I wonder if indeed it was the Mueller team, or someone "planted" this Mueller info on purpose. Weird indeed. Looking at this then why say it is incorrect, but not say what is incorrect, such gives the idea Mueller is on the side of Trump. I often wonder about that; don't forget he's an Republican. May be wants to make an report that "mellows" things; just not enough to impeach etc. I never will trust an Republican in judgement they way they act.

    I don't read into the Mueller pushback anything more than what it suggests. The Buzzfeed article makes some allegations which probably will not be born out in Mueller's investigation...that is they have to stand the scrutiny of the law. Innuendo and circumstantial evidence works fine for the media, including Buzzfeed, to get their ratings, but the standards are much higher in the court of law.

    I think Mueller just wanted to head off all the impeachment talk and "lynchin'" in the world of public opinion when the level of proof falls short. I suppose we'll know in due course when Mueller issues his report or maybe earlier when Cohen testifies before the House Oversight Committee on February 7th.

    In my opinion, you don't do it the way the Mueller team did. They could have gone to "Buzzfeed" and discussed the matter in an "undisclosed" place. They should not have done it publicly. The result is now that Trump feels vindicated and can "blame" someone again. Mueller should be smart enough not to give this "guy" ammunition. In any other country, people like Trump would already be kicked out or in jail by now. So let Mueller show up with the "real" stuff and forget all the "sidelines" and rumors as well work together with reporters as good as possible. If Mueller would have read the Dutch Zembla report way before the election and when he was appointed, than there should have been already jail for the whole family. But yeah here they are so arrogant in this country that they only believe in their own created shit.

    Now Trump is thanking Mueller (even on TV) and calls Mueller an "hero", how stupid can you get.

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    I'm not really sure what to think about this anymore.

    On one hand - it just makes sense that Trump directed Cohen to lie to Congress. It would be odd for Cohen to knowingly commit a felony without direction from his dear leader.

    On the other - if BuzzFeed got duped then it plays right into Donald's "the fake news is out to get me" hands.

    BuzzFeed is standing by their reporting, but it does concern me that no other major outlet has confirmed it. It's entirely possible they are the only ones who somehow found an "in" to Mueller's investigation, but it's also entirely possible they are the victims of deliberate sabotage from pro-Trump factions in the DOJ or FBI who want to protect their dear leader.

    Nothing surprises me anymore.

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    In listening to all the discussions of expert commentators on MSNBC, there is no true consensus on what Mueller might be up to in essentially debunking the Buzzfeed report. It certainly has given cover to Trump to brag again that he has been vindicated.

    One possibility is that Buzzfeed is a bit of a thorn in Mueller's side. Remember Buzzfeed was the first to release the "Trump dossier" releasing a wave of media speculation. Mueller's team probably didn't like Buzzfeed getting ahead of them, and that wound was festering. Now Mueller may also not want the impeachment talk in the House to get ahead of his investigation, which seems to have maybe another six months to run based on his extension of the grand jury.

    Calling the Buzzfeed report "inaccurate" may be a focus on something minor to just stop all the impeachment talk.

    Mueller also is very sensitive to possible leaks from his organization. The fact that he took a full 24 hours to respond to the Buzzfeed report may be a result of him doing an internal search for suspected leakers.

    In any case, Mueller will have to hurry up his investigation as many very savvy reporters are doing an excellent job of digging. It could be Mueller is not only in a race with the Democratically controlled House, but also the many media organizations who know how to dig. The House investigative committees were never a problem when Republicans were in control, but they are now.

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    "The special counsel's office did not go into detail about which parts of the BuzzFeed story they were calling untrue."

    google.com/amp/s/amp.cnn.com/cnn/2019/0...

    My opinion about the announcement from Mueller is it says absolutely positively nothing. It is so broad and general it says nothing.