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  • Liberal Democrat
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    Representative Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez has been discussed in other threads but since she is becoming more of a media sensation, I have created her own thread. Whatever your political feelings are about her, there is no denying that the 29 year-old is articulate, knows how to Twitter effectively, and has a passionate following that is resembling a populist movement...a young version of Bernie Sanders, perhaps. The New York Times had a recent article on her entitled, Ocasio-Cortez Pushes Democrats to the Left, Whether They Like It or Not

    From the NYT: "In the two months since her election, Ms. Ocasio-Cortez has had the uncanny ability for a first-term member of Congress to push the debate inside the Democratic Party sharply to the left, forcing party leaders and 2020 presidential candidates to grapple with issues that some might otherwise prefer to avoid."

    After Trump's Oval office address, she appeared on Rachel Maddow's show, and it was the most watched show ever on the Rachel Maddow show. She was very, very good. I watched her. She is indeed a media darling now. You can read more about her appeal in the NYT article, but on the conservative side, there is fear as depicted by this Fox News headline: Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, the voice of an ignorant generation

    The Fox News opinion article addresses her grasp of economics and foreign policy: "Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez’s ignorance of economics and foreign affairs typifies her generation. Despite holding expensive degrees in both Economics and International Relations from Boston University, Ocasio-Cortez threw up her hands in exasperation during an interview on Margaret Hoover’s “Firing Line” program, laughing, “I’m not the expert on geopolitics.” Fortunately for her, in the land of the blind, the one eyed man is king; and among a blithely ignorant generation, the lightly educated activist is congresswoman."

    There are many articles flattering to her in the liberal media and many equally non-complimentary articles about her in Fox News and other right wing media. She certainly has the media's attention and in that respect is a challenge to Donald Trump because she is educated, knows how to speak and write to be understood instead of mocked, and definitely has pushed the Democratic Party presidential hopefuls to the left -- to discuss topics that normally would make a politician uncomfortable.

    For that I give her high marks. She is a refreshing voice, and she will not be quieted.

  • Strongly Liberal Democrat
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    She is a celebrity but she is off the mark. She probably views big business and big money as an enemy rather than a resource.
  • Liberal Democrat
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    Wikipedia: Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez

    Rep Ocasio-Cortes did not even have a Wikipedia page until recently. I looked at it, and since all the material is new it is pretty much up to date covering her early life to the present -- a bio of sorts.

    Being a "moderate" I might not agree with her on some of the issues; however I certainly admire her passion and certainly for getting out people to vote that thus far have felt marginalized on the sidelines. I would encourage everyone to read her Wikipedia page as a starter to learn about her as a person.

  • Center Left
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    Impressive. She's off to a strong start. Her future could be very bright. I like her but she just started. If she was a stock it would be a great demand item. She could be significant in future plans for the party. Real experience is important as well.
  • Strongly Liberal Democrat
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    The key to peace and happiness is a good paying job. No matter how good and deserving an idea is it won't have a life unless it pays for itself. To make this a beautiful safe world money has to pay for it. Put life in an economy and the wealth from taxes will pay for everything that is needed.
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    Big money and big business is not a resource. It simply is the result of a political economy that allows private ownership of production and protects private property. Concentrations of wealth and power resort from knowledge corruption and asymmetry. The RW media machine has no more knowledge nor accuracy than they attempt to claim the congresswoman has. Four plus decades of RWpolitical economic drivel has given us the mess we have with no one particularly from the right having a clue as to policy.
  • Strongly Liberal Democrat
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    "Big money and big business is not a resource. It simply is the result of a political economy that allows private ownership of production and protects private property."

    You say it is not a resource then you explain how it has been maligned to serve a selfish purpose. Everybody that ever told their kid they need to get an education and work hard to avoid a life of flipping burgers or cleaning bathrooms contributed to the mess we are in. A system that manages money for profit is a resource. It just needs to be guided by human rights. Then it would be a benevolent system. What do you think was the source for:

    "and overthrew the tables of themoneychangers" and jubilee"

    There have always been people that understood the violation of human rights.

    "Tax code for the people."

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    Chet Ruminski Wrote:

    "Big money and big business is not a resource. It simply is the result of a political economy that allows private ownership of production and protects private property."

    You say it is not a resource then you explain how it has been maligned to serve a selfish purpose. Everybody that ever told their kid they need to get an education and work hard to avoid a life of flipping burgers or cleaning bathrooms contributed to the mess we are in. A system that manages money for profit is a resource. It just needs to be guided by human rights. Then it would be a benevolent system. What do you think was the source for:

    "and overthrew the tables of themoneychangers" and jubilee"

    There have always been people that understood the violation of human rights.

    "Tax code for the people."

    Big Money and big business is an aggregation of power. Money is the means of keeping score. The system that manages money for profit is the result of a political economy that protects private ownership of production, protects private property and allows for distortion and corruption of knowledge. Money is a means of exchange. In the case of power centers it is used to exchange for favors political or otherwise. Money removed from the context of power can be a resource or rather a tool which can aid the many.

    As for guiding a political economy by human rights first a discussion and decision-making process for the definition of human rights is necessary. You will find that Von Hayek and Friedman argued that the so-called free market was an expression of freedom which would be considered a human right. They were arguing from a place that was not occupied by Adam Smith. Even Adam Smith fell victim to what Duncan Foley call's Adam's Fallacy. It is impossible to have the result of a system based upon human immorality, greed, result in a good for the many. Yet you will not find but a handful of people willing to radically change the political economy. Certain half-measures like removal of corporate personhood etc would help but they are not massive remaking of the system.

  • Strongly Liberal Democrat
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    "Money is the means of keeping score."

    Except for the trillions of dollars doing nothing in the stock market. Those non productive dollars should be taxed in accordance to the benefits they produce.

  • Liberal Democrat
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    Getting back on the topic of Representative Ocasio-Cortez, she has announced that Nancy Pelosi has installed her on the influential House Financial Services Committee, which oversees Wall Street and the housing industry. The committee is chaired by California Democratic Rep. Maxine Waters .

    "I am very grateful for the opportunity to sit on this committee as a freshman, and look forward to working under the leadership of @RepMaxineWaters!" Ocasio-Cortez wrote on Twitter late Tuesday. "Financial Services is one of just four exclusive committees in the House. It oversees big banks, lending, & the financial sector. Personally, I’m looking forward to digging into the student loan crisis, examining for-profit prisons/ICE detention, and exploring the development of public & postal banking. To start."

    She will be a strong voice on the committee, but I expect contentious as well. That's okay.

  • Strongly Liberal Democrat
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    Contentious but pointless. I know many many people who have no access to health care other than the emergency room. What says she???
  • Strongly Liberal Democrat
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    She’s definitely in the MMT camp, as now is former VT governor Howard Dean.

    She’s not versed enough to discuss the intricacies of MMT, but she relied on Kelton talking points to swat away the “pay for” question with Anderson Cooper.

    I know one of her advisers. Her chief of staff has promoted MMT on twitter recently.

    I believe AOC went to the 2nd MMT conference in NYC in Sept. She was photographed at a dinner with Kelton and others.

  • Liberal Democrat
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    Carlitos -- Yes I noticed that one of her campaign issues is a Job Guarantee. She is now the second most popular Democrat in the House, and the media on both the right and left follows her every move. Yesterday she and a few of her fellow freshmen went to the Senate chambers looking for Mitch McConnell to deliver a message to him, and posting video clips along the way of their quest to find him.

    '#WheresMitch?': Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez and other freshman Democrats are moving blame for the shutdown from Trump to Mitch McConnell

    "Nearly a dozen freshman House Democrats marched through the halls of Congress on Wednesday to deliver a letter to Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell, demanding that he hold a vote to reopen the government, which has been shut down for 26 days.

    "The group stopped by the Senate majority office, the Senate cloakroom, the Senate floor, and McConnell's personal office, but had no luck finding the elusive Republican.

    "He seems to be running away from us," Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez of New York said to fellow lawmakers. She later tweeted a new hashtag, #WheresMitch.

    "The tactic appears to be part of a new round of messaging from Democrats on the shutdown, which reached its 26th day on Wednesday. It's literally Mitch McConnell at this point, this is Mitch McConnell's problem," Ocasio-Cortez said on Instagram Live on Tuesday night."

    If anyone can shift the blame from Trump to McConnell it is Ocasio-Cortez who can turn the limelight away from Trump to her. McConnell will now start feeling the heat from the young outspoken 29 year-old, and that probably irritates him no end. Ha.

  • Center Left
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    Hey Democratic party... It's 2019. Take your heads out of the sand and wake up.

    This young lady wants to introduce the party to the fact that they're far behind on social media and that too has a price. Social media solves no problems - people do. Want large numbers to vote for you ? Communication is key. Have a message and be heard. Our current leader has figured that out. He has no great message but because he sends shallow mindless tweets, those who felt lost and ignored have something or someone to listen to.

    newsandguts.com/yo-congress-welcome-to-...

  • Strongly Liberal Democrat
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    Schmidt,

    i am not keeping track but seems the JG is now supported by more Dems than not.

    We can thank Stephanie Kelton for that.