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  • Independent
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    An excellent comment was made on MSNBC about the many REAL serious problems that are being ignored by Trump while he focuses on da WALL. In the real world of problems, da Wall, doesn't make the top 100 issues that need more support.

    Love him or hate him, Trump is the grand master of distraction. Nobody can touch him. If the WH was burning down, you can bet he'd find a way to upstage it within 24-48 hours, so the media focus is back on him.

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    Schmidt Wrote:

    Mayo Clinic: Narcissistic personality disorder

    "Narcissistic personality disorder — one of several types of personality disorders — is a mental condition in which people have an inflated sense of their own importance, a deep need for excessive attention and admiration, troubled relationships, and a lack of empathy for others. But behind this mask of extreme confidence lies a fragile self-esteem that's vulnerable to the slightest criticism."

    Scary, that is a perfect definition of trump's behavior.

    I've notice that more and more people commenting on these traits and how his presidential campign was almost exclusively feeding these tenancies and promoting his Trump brand (ie Licensing). He has no compiling interest in public service, it is the complete opposite, everything he does is, 100%, self-serving. He had no interest in his own children until they were old enough be useful to him. "F*** that little kid, point the camera at me".

  • Liberal Democrat
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    Jennifer Rubin, Washington Post, January 10, 2019: Pelosi knows the magic word for beating Trump: ‘No’

    Rubin writes that "President Trump has always been able to bully, boast, deflect, pay off and lie to get his way...Now someone has sufficient power and is immune to his bullying, unimpressed by his boasting, tenacious enough not to let him off the hook and indifferent to his fortune. She’s smarter, tougher and far better at negotiating. This in a nutshell is why Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) is running circles around Trump, who literally felt he had to flee when he couldn’t get her to capitulate."

    Jennifer Rubin is a conservative columnist for the Washington Post and often can be seen as a guest on MSNBC. Her article is on Speaker Pelosi and how Pelosi is "needling " Trump and calling his arguments "pathetic". She says Pelosi is "flummoxing Trump, prompting him to show childish behavior".

    Rubin closes her article with: "you wonder when Trump will get tired of losing -- to a woman no less".

    Which gets me to the point of sharing her article. Nancy Pelosi will defeat Trump in the realm of public opinion. She is doing it by hitting his weakness again and again -- his insecurity and lack of confidence around strong women. Pelosi is not taking any victory laps or bragging like Trump does after every "win". There are no winners in Trump's shutdown. She simply is chipping away at him where it hurts bullies the most -- his self esteem and manhood.

  • Strongly Liberal Democrat
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    Schmidt Wrote:

    Jennifer Rubin, Washington Post, January 10, 2019: Pelosi knows the magic word for beating Trump: ‘No’

    Rubin writes that "President Trump has always been able to bully, boast, deflect, pay off and lie to get his way...Now someone has sufficient power and is immune to his bullying, unimpressed by his boasting, tenacious enough not to let him off the hook and indifferent to his fortune. She’s smarter, tougher and far better at negotiating. This in a nutshell is why Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) is running circles around Trump, who literally felt he had to flee when he couldn’t get her to capitulate."

    Jennifer Rubin is a conservative columnist for the Washington Post and often can be seen as a guest on MSNBC. Her article is on Speaker Pelosi and how Pelosi is "needling " Trump and calling his arguments "pathetic". She says Pelosi is "flummoxing Trump, prompting him to show childish behavior".

    Rubin closes her article with: "you wonder when Trump will get tired of losing -- to a woman no less".

    Which gets me to the point of sharing her article. Nancy Pelosi will defeat Trump in the realm of public opinion. She is doing it by hitting his weakness again and again -- his insecurity and lack of confidence around strong women. Pelosi is not taking any victory laps or bragging like Trump does after every "win". There are no winners in Trump's shutdown. She simply is chipping away at him where it hurts bullies the most -- his self esteem and manhood.

    When Trump announced his candidacy I said he could very well win but that he didn't want to be president. He was used to ruling from a position of controlling the purse strings. He was a business man and his narcissistic ego wanted to win the election but he didn't even consider being president. He thrives in being the upper hand in turmoil. The upper hand got stripped from him on January 3rd. It is driving him nuts.
  • Strongly Liberal Democrat
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    Polls are increasingly blaming Trump as the main reason for the shutdown. Just like we made Saddam Hussein the 3rd powerfulest Army in the world we also created Trump with our winner take all business attitude. The country worshiped the greediest and turned its back on the workers.
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    Chet Ruminski Wrote: Polls are increasingly blaming Trump as the main reason for the shutdown. Just like we made Saddam Hussein the 3rd powerfulest Army in the world we also created Trump with our winner take all business attitude. The country worshiped the greediest and turned its back on the workers.
    Yes Chet, that is what you get if you don't educate the "workers" about what is "right" and what is "wrong" Teaching how to make "money" does not teach you what "greed" is and how to become a caring "human"
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    Dutch Wrote:
    Chet Ruminski Wrote: Polls are increasingly blaming Trump as the main reason for the shutdown. Just like we made Saddam Hussein the 3rd powerfulest Army in the world we also created Trump with our winner take all business attitude. The country worshiped the greediest and turned its back on the workers.
    Yes Chet, that is what you get if you don't educate the "workers" about what is "right" and what is "wrong" Teaching how to make "money" does not teach you what "greed" is and how to become a caring "human"
    People over person is the purpose of uniting people in a country. Creating a devil doesn't mean we can't judge the devil. Throw the bum out.
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    I created this thread keeping in mind how many times I said compromising was over for the Democratic Party because too much had already been compromised away. If Pelosi wins this battle I hope she has enough sense to realize how we got here. She needs to realize people are a country and start putting the country back to work benefilnting people.

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    Chet Ruminski Wrote:

    I created this thread keeping in mind how many times I said compromising was over for the Democratic Party because too much had already been compromised away. If Pelosi wins this battle I hope she has enough sense to realize how we got here. She needs to realize people are a country and start putting the country back to work benefilnting people.

    Chet, I see that the main problem is not now but the future of this country; I just wonder if this country ever can get "normal' again after the present debacle. As long as they don't change the election laws (by banning "money in it) or educate people on how to elect the right thinking people, as well let the lobbyists "roam" as they wish and close their eyes for the greed and influence of "billionaires" etc. Then this country is doomed.

    The subject was "Pelosi", however look at the "big" picture; she's only "one" against the whole clan of idiots; don't forget that.

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    Dutch Wrote:
    Chet Ruminski Wrote:

    I created this thread keeping in mind how many times I said compromising was over for the Democratic Party because too much had already been compromised away. If Pelosi wins this battle I hope she has enough sense to realize how we got here. She needs to realize people are a country and start putting the country back to work benefilnting people.

    Chet, I see that the main problem is not now but the future of this country; I just wonder if this country ever can get "normal' again after the present debacle. As long as they don't change the election laws (by banning "money in it) or educate people on how to elect the right thinking people, as well let the lobbyists "roam" as they wish and close their eyes for the greed and influence of "billionaires" etc. Then this country is doomed.

    The subject was "Pelosi", however look at the "big" picture; she's only "one" against the whole clan of idiots; don't forget that.

    "the election laws" are not the problem. The tax code is the problem. The tax code benefits individuals at a severe detriment to the country. Big money is bypassing democracy to plutocracy.
  • Liberal Democrat
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    jaredsxtn Wrote:

    Speaker Pelosi (man, I love writing that again) is simply teaching Donald the lessons of divided government. His days of ruling by strong-arming Republicans into submission are gone, if they were ever around to begin with.

    Donald had two years of single-party rule and never got his wall. Hell - he never really even fought much at all for his wall. Now he's simply realized that it's a good way to gin up his base and get the press to stop talking about Mueller 24/7. It's an exercise in smoke and mirrors with hundreds of thousands of Federal employees being used as pawns in his game.

    He knows he's never going to get his wall, but that's not the point. The point is that he can never, ever, ever admit that he "lost" something. And no matter which way this plays out, Donald is going to lose this fight.

    Pelosi's poll numbers are rising.

    Washington Post: Opposing Trump is making Nancy Pelosi more popular

    Although Pelosi is still in the negative unfavorable range, the latest Gallup poll shows she is more popular now than in more than a decade. Her numbers are rising while at the same time Trump's approval rating fell to its lowest level in more than a year.

    Pelosi has done her homework on the man child. And as a grandmother she know full well how to deal with a child's tantrums...just let the child's tantrums go on until they tire themselves out. Wait them out. That's what Pelosi seems to be doing. Ha.

  • Independent
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    Schmidt, I just wonder if you seriously look at the present picture of how things don't work in this country and get an "baby" as President and an "grandma" who has to take care of the baby, then are you surprised that the whole world is laughing like crazy and does not take this country seriously at all anymore. Sorry Schmidt the whole system of governing has to be drastically overhauled, but I'm afraid no one will. Thus I wish you an warm welcome into this "banana republic" with Brexit overtones which it inherited from the UK.
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    Dutch -- You have made those kinds of statements critical of our government again and again. Yes we made a major mistake in electing Trump, but many of the liberal voters who in the past have chosen to sit on the sidelines are now becoming activists. Our democracy is sound -- just look at the results of the 2018 election.

    But this thread is about Nancy Pelosi, so getting back on topic her latest move is to ask Trump to postpone his state of the union message to the American people until after the shutdown. Her reasoning -- security concerns with understaffed Homeland Security and Secret Service because of the shutdown. Ouch - that must hurt Trump. Of course, she also realizes she is not going to want to sit in the Speaker's chair behind that pompous ass while he pontificates for a full hour or more in the House chamber, and she has to endure the cameras focused on her every expression.

    In reply to a question from the media, she said Trump can always deliver his speech as scheduled "from the Oval Office". Ha. We already know the optics of that from Trump's last squinting teleprompter speech with no live audience.

    Pelosi is a shrewd politician and knows how to play hardball with Trump. I love her.

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    Schmidt Wrote:

    Dutch -- You have made those kinds of statements critical of our government again and again. Yes we made a major mistake in electing Trump, but many of the liberal voters who in the past have chosen to sit on the sidelines are now becoming activists. Our democracy is sound -- just look at the results of the 2018 election.

    But this thread is about Nancy Pelosi, so getting back on topic her latest move is to ask Trump to postpone his state of the union message to the American people until after the shutdown. Her reasoning -- security concerns with understaffed Homeland Security and Secret Service because of the shutdown. Ouch - that must hurt Trump. Of course, she also realizes she is not going to want to sit in the Speaker's chair behind that pompous ass while he pontificates for a full hour or more in the House chamber, and she has to endure the cameras focused on her every expression.

    In reply to a question from the media, she said Trump can always deliver his speech as scheduled "from the Oval Office". Ha. We already know the optics of that from Trump's last squinting teleprompter speech with no live audience.

    Pelosi is a shrewd politician and knows how to play hardball with Trump. I love her.

    Yes I know it is about Pelosi; however she's only a very little "pindrop" in this large government; Jordan and Meadows love to make the Government "smaller" and this is music to Trumps ears; since he never paid his workers either, so this is "normal" for him.

    Getting back to Pelosi; we still have to see the outcome. Don't forget that trump wants his "backpocket money" from this "wall"(the "contractors" deal" is already made); that is what he's fighting for; nothing else. I've not heard Pelosi say so; but I bet that is the truth. But of course people deny that, by not knowing how the "mafia mob" works; it is always the "money" . If you give Trump one little finger, then he will take the whole hand as they say in Dutch. Pelosi may have to give the "one" finger, but in the end he will get billions, even if the "wall" is started with only a hundred meters; he'll come back time and time again for the rest of the "money" etc.etc. He'll make sure the "money" trail is covered; ask Cohen how he does it, or Mitt Romney who's got his money stashed in the Cayman's. Wake up America, you are being taken to the "cleaners"

  • Strongly Liberal Democrat
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    Schmidt Wrote: But this thread is about Nancy Pelosi, so getting back on topic her latest move is to ask Trump to postpone his state of the union message to the American people until after the shutdown. Her reasoning -- security concerns with understaffed Homeland Security and Secret Service because of the shutdown. Ouch - that must hurt Trump. Of course, she also realizes she is not going to want to sit in the Speaker's chair behind that pompous ass while he pontificates for a full hour or more in the House chamber, and she has to endure the cameras focused on her every expression.

    Donald is probably having a hard time understanding that he must be asked to give a speech in the House Chamber. He can't just say he's going to give a State of the Union Address and expect the House to accede to his every demand. I'd hate to be the staffer who informed him of that this morning.