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Elizabeth Warren announces run for President

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  • Liberal Democrat
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    Kenosha, WI
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    Warren lambasting and proposing the breakup of giant companies may come to haunt her chances. Yes, people need jobs, and these huge companies provide jobs to hourly workers, but I believe they should only be allowed to create or provide jobs without the subsidies local communities give away, which in my opinion is a form of "corporate welfare". Fine, you want to build in MY community, great, but please, don't come to MY local legislators and ask for a handout, if you can't build a factory, a warehouse and pay your way for roads and other infrastructure to run your business, don't even think of asking the locals for monetary assistance-subsidy tax breaks. here's why,

    Walmart in MY community once had a reasonably sized store but the community outgrew that one, so, Walmart decided to build a great big mall and put a Sam's club in it, with a gas station and a car wash too, it's called a SUPER CENTER. Spring ahead a couple of years, now here comes Walmart trying to lowball the tax assessments, and get the amount they pay in taxes on that new property lowered to the level of their old closed up store. Even after the county and state already gave them subsidies and provided infrastructure to support their mega-center, it's called what this county-state terms as "dark stores".

    Read about it: wisconsingazette.com/views/about-the-wa...

    "About the Walmart Dark Store Tax Loophole paid for by Wisconsin homeowners"

    Warren proposing the breakup of Amazon and etc. IMHO is the wrong approach. Yes, we want jobs, and good paying jobs, but not at the cost of breaking up large corporations, we just want them to pay their own way, and not ask for handouts to better their bottom lines (profits).

    And get this, the community where this Walmart was built isn't patrolled by a large city police or fire department, therefore, the county sheriff must respond to shoplifting calls, and local fire departments must respond to fire-rescue-emergency calls because Somers Wisconsin does not have a large police force or large firefighting capabilities, in turn, the county and city local taxpayers are on the hook (must pay) for these services. If a large fire were to break out at this newer Walmart, and if there were more than one fire at a time, Somers would need to rely upon other local communities for support, also costing taxpayers locally.

    en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Somers,_Wisconsin

    somers.org/?q=node/33#.XIjDJHdFxok

  • Strongly Liberal Democrat
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    Dockadams Wrote:

    Warren lambasting and proposing the breakup of giant companies may come to haunt her chances. Yes, people need jobs, and these huge companies provide jobs to hourly workers, but I believe they should only be allowed to create or provide jobs without the subsidies local communities give away, which in my opinion is a form of "corporate welfare". Fine, you want to build in MY community, great, but please, don't come to MY local legislators and ask for a handout, if you can't build a factory, a warehouse and pay your way for roads and other infrastructure to run your business, don't even think of asking the locals for monetary assistance-subsidy tax breaks. here's why,

    Walmart in MY community once had a reasonably sized store but the community outgrew that one, so, Walmart decided to build a great big mall and put a Sam's club in it, with a gas station and a car wash too, it's called a SUPER CENTER. Spring ahead a couple of years, now here comes Walmart trying to lowball the tax assessments, and get the amount they pay in taxes on that new property lowered to the level of their old closed up store. Even after the county and state already gave them subsidies and provided infrastructure to support their mega-center, it's called what this county-state terms as "dark stores".

    Read about it: wisconsingazette.com/views/about-the-wa...

    "About the Walmart Dark Store Tax Loophole paid for by Wisconsin homeowners"

    Warren proposing the breakup of Amazon and etc. IMHO is the wrong approach. Yes, we want jobs, and good paying jobs, but not at the cost of breaking up large corporations, we just want them to pay their own way, and not ask for handouts to better their bottom lines (profits).

    And get this, the community where this Walmart was built isn't patrolled by a large city police or fire department, therefore, the county sheriff must respond to shoplifting calls, and local fire departments must respond to fire-rescue-emergency calls because Somers Wisconsin does not have a large police force or large firefighting capabilities, in turn, the county and city local taxpayers are on the hook (must pay) for these services. If a large fire were to break out at this newer Walmart, and if there were more than one fire at a time, Somers would need to rely upon other local communities for support, also costing taxpayers locally.

    en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Somers,_Wisconsin

    somers.org/?q=node/33#.XIjDJHdFxok

    Great post but it contradicts your centrist support. Centrist compromising is what allowed Wal-Mart and Amazon to run away with the American livelihood.
  • Liberal Democrat
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    The big box stores like Walmart, Target, Best Buy, Home Depot, Lowes, Barnes and Nobel put a lot of Mom and Pop stores out of business in the past couple of decades. Seeking tax abatements have always been a part of that trend as communities compete for the businesses to relocate there. It has happened all over America. In a way they (along with internet shopping) have also helped spell the demise of the malls as smaller shops and restaurants opened up in strip malls near them. They set up shop where the customers are. It's the way markets work.

    Chet -- I have absolutely no idea what you mean by "centrist compromising is what allowed Walmart and Amazon to run away with the American livelihood."

  • Liberal Democrat
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    Dockadams:

    Wisconsin is a prime example of how communities get screwed by big corporations. Foxconn was going to produce lots of jobs for Wisconsin, but didn't, and the subsidy kept going up. The picture of Trump and Walker side by side with shovels in their hands will trigger your gag reflex.

    https://www.theverge.com/2018/10/29/18027032/foxconn-wisconsin-plant-jobs-deal-subsidy-governor-scott-walker

    One hundred years ago, Wisconsin was one of the most progressive states in the nation, but the recent members of the Republican party have messed it up so much that they are not even willing to allow the newly-elected Democratic governor do his job.

  • Center Left
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    I read recently that Elizabeth Warren and Joe Biden have a long running fued that goes back several years. It will be interesting to see polling results in 3 months versus today.
  • Liberal Democrat
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    that guy in AZ Wrote:

    Dockadams:

    Wisconsin is a prime example of how communities get screwed by big corporations. Foxconn was going to produce lots of jobs for Wisconsin, but didn't, and the subsidy kept going up. The picture of Trump and Walker side by side with shovels in their hands will trigger your gag reflex.

    https://www.theverge.com/2018/10/29/18027032/foxconn-wisconsin-plant-jobs-deal-subsidy-governor-scott-walker

    One hundred years ago, Wisconsin was one of the most progressive states in the nation, but the recent members of the Republican party have messed it up so much that they are not even willing to allow the newly-elected Democratic governor do his job.

    I know. $4.5B worth. There ain't no way Foxconn was ever going to provide 13,000 jobs, and I know that there are NOT enough apartments or rental properties or homes for rent or sale in this area to accommodate that many workers. Walker and trump were blowhards, and now the factory isn't going to manufacture anything, it's now a research facility. The way some economists figure it, Wisconsin taxpayers will be on the hook for the largest subsidy this state has ever allowed for at least 11 years, absolutely ridiculous. Local residents are fuming about plans to rework the interstate entrance and exit ramps and how much land they'll be giving up for next to nothing (eminent domain), not to mention the waste of the environment too. First link ignore the trump ad.

    youtube.com/watch?v=pPU1VH5AR-w

    youtube.com/watch?v=Cns4TLQBLNc

    This might be why the DNC has decided to hold their convention in Milwaukee. Will the far left candidates participate? who knows?

  • Independent
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    TJ Wrote: I read recently that Elizabeth Warren and Joe Biden have a long running fued that goes back several years. It will be interesting to see polling results in 3 months versus today.

    Yeah, extremely unlikely they shall be on the same ticket together. I doubt that she shall be on the ticket in any form, but could get appointed to some watchdog position in a Democratic administration.

  • Independent
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    Schmidt Wrote:

    The big box stores like Walmart, Target, Best Buy, Home Depot, Lowes, Barnes and Nobel put a lot of Mom and Pop stores out of business in the past couple of decades.

    Adding to that... Block Buster Video practically killed every single locally owned video store in North America, and where is Block Buster now! It peaked in 2005; but was bankrupt in 2010.

  • Liberal Democrat
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    CNET: Blockbuster laughed at Netflix partnership offer

    And we know the rest of the story. Why some businesses succeed and some fail can usually be attributed to the vision of management or the lack of it. Those who rest on their business model and fail to see the competition looking at them in the face deserve to fail. We are better served with Netflix.