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Elizabeth Warren announces run for President

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  • Liberal Democrat
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    New York Times: Elizabeth Warren Announces She Is Running for President in 2020

    Elizabeth Warren has announced "she was forming an exploratory committee, which allows her to raise money and fill staff positions before a formal kickoff of her presidential bid."

    “The problem we’ve got right now in Washington is that it works great for those who’ve got money to buy influence, and I’m fighting against that,” Ms. Warren said. “And you bet it’s going to make a lot of people unhappy. But at the end of the day, I don’t go to Washington to work for them.”

    Most of us know where she stands on the major issues, but for a longer list one can go to Wikipedia: Political positions of Elizabeth Warren. She would not be my first choice, but I can support her. I do worry, however, that being one of the first to declare (four others have likewise) she will be targeted by Republicans, and Trump, especially to drive down her appeal...much like they did to Hillary Clinton, who held the Gallup's No. 1 spot as "most admired woman" for 17 years before finally being displaced to second place this year by Michelle Obama.

    Give 'em hell, Elizabeth!

  • Center Left
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    She's tremendous. I have the utmost respect of her.

    She's wasting time and money. This country is stuck in the 1950's and those voters (non dancing with the stars watchers) won't open their minds and select the best candidate. I voted for a capable and experienced Female last time and was happy with my choice. The hate mill known as Fox discredits all Democrats and especially those who are not 99+ % Caucasian or male.

    Yes I know Hillary won more votes. That fact and 2 dollars will get you a cheap cup of coffee at the gas station. She lost because 60% of this country are anything but open minded.

    Hopefully more people progress and things improve. We're not there yet. While she would do well in more populated areas, you need a few states like Montana, Mississippi and Minnesota. At least 1 out of 3. We have a long way to go. Hopefully we get there soon.

  • Liberal Democrat
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    The problem is that she, as well as other candidates, has to appeal to both the intellect of the informed voter and the populist emotions of the less informed. She cannot let Trump control the media agenda like he did during the 2016 election being continually "outrageous". She needs to come up with a few Trump zingers that stick and then move on.

    We're already seeing negative reports about her likeability. Really? What about Trump...different rules for him because he's a man? She needs to be sharp and witty but stay on message. She can articulate all her proposals like Hillary did with HillaryClinton.com, but those don't mean shit if she gets bogged down in a tit-for-tat game of taunts with Trump who relishes that kind of fight as a distraction for the real issues of the day.

    What we also certainly don't need is Democrats applying "purity tests" to her and her agenda like they did to Hillary.

    I will do my usual research on the issues for all the candidates, but I recognize that likeability can be more of a defining factor than knowledge of the issues and intellect.

  • Liberal Democrat
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    The Atlantic: Elizabeth Warren's Theory of Capitalism

    Since Warren announced her exploratory committee, I am doing my exploration of her as well. For those interested in learning about the candidates on the issues, this article on her view of capitalism might provide some insight. I won't paraphrase it.

  • Liberal Democrat
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    And more disparaging remarks from trump, he thinks Warren should ask her head shrink. A mentally ill manchild saying more nasty shit about a very nice person, such an asshole.
  • Independent
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    Warren will run into the same shit as with Hillary; Sorry to say this "backwards country" is not ready for an "female" President because of its "old" culture that women can't run a country. Just look at the history of this country. In Congress there were hardly any women; only lately this has changed. If you look at the Kavanaugh hearing then "men" had the overtone, even the female "witness" was torpedoed. Most Republicans are of the "old" conservative thinking that women should be in the kitchen and raise lots of kids because the church tells them so. Progressive people are much more open to "new" views of the world etc. Thus I'm willing to bet that the next President will not be an woman because of the inbred culture here..
  • Liberal Democrat
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    Dutch Wrote: Warren will run into the same shit as with Hillary; Sorry to say this "backwards country" is not ready for an "female" President because of its "old" culture that women can't run a country. Just look at the history of this country. In Congress there were hardly any women; only lately this has changed. If you look at the Kavanaugh hearing then "men" had the overtone, even the female "witness" was torpedoed. Most Republicans are of the "old" conservative thinking that women should be in the kitchen and raise lots of kids because the church tells them so. Progressive people are much more open to "new" views of the world etc. Thus I'm willing to bet that the next President will not be an woman because of the inbred culture here..
    I'm inclined to agree with you on that synopsis, men still control things, and probably will for some time. I think women might be better at running things, mainly because they're not into starting wars, IMO.
  • Democrat
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    To hell with your stupid polls, my idea of the perfect Presidential ticket for the American people would be Bernie Sanders and Elizabeth Warren because they both have proven beyond a doubt that they can't be bribed by those Robber Barons who have turned our government from a Republic to a corrupt, war mongering, Oligarchy.
  • Independent
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    I like Warren and she is clearly sincere and knowledgeable about the issues she talks about. She is politically polarizing. I question her political savvy and political skills. She is an activist, not a natural politician. My concern is that she could be a spoiler like Ralph Nader; demanding extreme change that siphons off enough not votes to impact the election in favor of a Republican candidate in key states.

  • Liberal Democrat
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    wwjd -- I agree that Elizabeth Warren is a polarizing figure in that she has enormous passion about inequality and its causes and can articulate those positions quite well. For that reason, many corporatist type Republicans fear her for her financial acumen and what she might do to the status quo of the financial world starting with the breaking up of the big banks.

    That passion stimulates the emotions of the progressives, but at the same time can be seen by Republicans, moderate Democrats and Independents as more of stirring up "angry emotions" rather than realistic thinking of how to make her agenda happen when roughly half of the electorate is conservative in their bias.

    When she speaks there is that uncharismatic tone in her voice of angry desperation in sharp contrast to the often calming voice of the charismatic Barack Obama. Some Republicans on the right are offended by her "sanctimonious lecturing" which is perhaps sexist in itself if one thinks of Donald Trump's endless and pathetic lies. Nevertheless, it drives her "polarization" label, perhaps unfairly.

    Still, in this upside down political world where emotions trump critical thinking on both the left and right, is there room in the debate stage for a moderate anymore? Does the Democratic Party have to move far left to energize many of the progressives to vote?

    I will reserve judgment on Elizabeth Warren. She may be the best choice to get out the vote of the "liberal malcontents" who have historically sat on the sidelines and bitched. The question is, for every vote she gains on the far left, will she lose a vote from moderates and independents?

  • Independent
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    Since there is an huge field of candidates, then it becomes more difficult to rise to the top as an woman. Also if Biden, Sanders, Bloomberg are running then experience counts. Sorry she's a great "fighter" but it takes more than that; ask Hillary.
  • Liberal Democrat
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    FiveThirtyEight, January 2, 2019: How Elizabeth Warren Could Win The 2020 Democratic Primary

    FiveThirtyEight discusses Elizabeth Warren's strengths and weaknesses.

    "Ideologically, Warren is right where a Democratic primary candidate should want to be — it’s one of the strongest cards in her hand. According to FiveThirtyEight’s Trump Score, she votes with the president just 13.1 percent of the time, making her the third-most anti-Trump senator in the 115th Congress. Although she’s best known for her stands against income inequality and big banks, she is deeply liberal on both social and economic issues, according to an analysis of her votes and positions by OnTheIssues — although not quite as liberal as Sen. Bernie Sanders, one of Warren’s potential 2020 rivals.

    However, when one gets to her "likeability" she loses ground. I do not agree with her on all the issues, and that might be the reason I would pick a more moderate candidate. Likeability would not be a big issue with me, but I certainly understand how that would be a factor in "electability". So yes, Dutch I agree. Like Hillary Clinton before her, somehow people find mundane reasons to cite why they don't like her. Most often it is a cover for not wanting a woman as president.

    As per FiveThirtyEight, "Warren has long polarized audiences and was never the world’s most beloved politician to begin with. That may be because she’s a woman with a confrontational style. It may be sexism mixed with other reasons."

  • Strongly Liberal Democrat
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    "Warren has long polarized audiences and was never the world’s most beloved politician to begin with."

    That's what happens when you represent people that are denied opportunity.

  • Liberal Democrat
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    The Boston News article from 2017 addresses how as a Massachusetts senator she never got chummy with Republicans or Independents in her state. She represents a moderate state, and it's hard to represent a progressive base and still appeal to the center moderates or any right wingers.

    Her poll numbers are a sad reflection of the state of our tribal political discourse. Plus she's a woman and for many misogynists, it doesn't matter how aligned she is with their views on the issues, they will find a reason to "dislike her".

    Like Trump's appeal to his base, Warren polls well with her base including those people that are denied opportunity. Outside of the base, the support is less passionate.

  • Strongly Liberal Democrat
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    "Outside of the base, the support is less passionate."

    A typical response from non smokers about penalizing tobacco laws is. I don't care because I don't smoke. The same response comes from upper class about lower class problems. I don't care because I am upper class and I don't have lower class problems. Right now the upper class is not supporting lower class champions because they don't have lower class problems. What I hear is "we better not ask for too much because that might jeopardize what we have. That attitude will put forth a candidate that is closer to republicans than to the needs of the lower classes that are denied living wages.

    "What you can do for your country" Schmidt mentioned that awhile back and I agree.

    Schmidt actually said:

    "I was astounded at the amount of ignorance that many of my fellow Democrats had about how government works"