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Trump in Iraq

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  • Independent
    Ft.myers, FL
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    X-Mas eve, the asshole flew to Iraq; spent 3 hours there and flew back; during the 3 hours he spewed only utter nonsense, such as "we are the suckers of the world" etc.

    Just for the record Trump has spent this year over 700 million on useless trips, outings, rally's etc. He is the most expensive "leader" (forget the word leader) we've ever had. Where is the accountability ? Who keeps track of all this waste?

    I guess it is time that this country gets an "Prime Minister" instead of an "King" with an "predetermined fixed budget" allowance. I've never seen such an terrible dumb country in my life.

    Also it is time that someone writes an presidential "manual" indicating the "limits" of power and exact "tasks" of the job. As well rewrite the Constitution related to when you can"fire" an President " the easy way" if he/she refuses to follow the "rules" as should be stated in such "manual". It is pathetic that this President just refuses to give his "tax returns" and no one blinks, because there are no laws to force him to do so. As I've said many times just "rules" don't cut it if you invite an "con-man" to become President.

  • Liberal Democrat
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    Yes Donald Trump is an embarrassment to the whole world. It's not only many Americans that cringe at his every move, but also just about the whole world except Russia, Saudi Arabia, Israel and maybe a couple of lesser known countries. We understand how we mistakenly elected a con man, who played to our emotions instead of our intellect. He will not last his four years, or if he does, he will not be re-elected.

    However, this is not so much a testament to our constitutional form of democracy, but rather our loss of caring -- taking for granted our democracy instead of participating in it. If Democrats had voted intelligently and in a big way we would not have had Donald Trump as president or George W. Bush or Ronald Reagan. We would not have the current conservative make-up of the Supreme Court and their many 5-4 votes favoring the rich and powerful. Instead we would have more equitable laws on campaign finance, taxes and social issues.

    Yes we can decry the gerrymandering and voter suppression, but those happen because over many years we let it happen by not taking an interest in government and not voting. It is not our system of government that has failed us. It is us -- the non-voter and the protest voter who put George Bush in office and put Donald Trump in office and put so many Republicans in Congress.

    I have looked at voter turn-out in crucial states and lament the fact that more Democrats just didn't vote or voted stupidly in general elections, especially midterms. Maybe the 2018 election is a sign the tide is shifting with the many crimes of the Trump presidency; maybe Democrats can force a course correction. I think for that to really happen in the long run though, justice needs to be served, and Donald Trump and his many cronies have to be seen wearing their orange jump suits in jail. Otherwise cynicism will prevail and people will continue to go fishing on election day.

  • Independent
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    Schmidt, you keep forgetting that the "system" here is broken. In my work at a certain company ; they did not have an General Terms and Conditions document to be signed by the customers; I designed and wrote it for them. Saved lots of lawsuits. My strong opinion is that this government is missing certain needed documents like: an "strict" manual for an President what his "job description is, as well his "limitations" and work "ethics". May be it exists, but our present "leader" does not read or is uneducated. In such case there should be "real" oversight to set such person straight; which is lacking now. Also it is urgent to totally revamp the Constitution to reflect the present world we live in. Case laws don't cut it. Even the "amendments" are screwed up in 1800's language and way of life, which does not work now, like the "second amendment" etc etc. Due to this, we've gotten the present situation. It is not the "votes"; because votes are corrupted by the billions of money via the "Pac's" etc. Also actual votes don't count due to an antiquated "electoral college"

    My point is; don't try to blame the voter; he/she is indoctrinated via the corrupt voting system here. A lot of blame can also be found in how the media who "promotes" candidates or not. ( Hillary got 20%, Trump got 80% attention)

  • Liberal Democrat
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    Even FOX has taken a dim view of trump's visit to Iraq.

    During his short stay, Trump implied that the U.S. troops were "suckers" before he came along. He also used his remarks in Iraq to push his political agenda back home : " we want to have strong borders" ...

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/fox-news-hits-trump-for-turning-troop-visit-into-‘campaign-rally’/ar-BBRv6Kg?ocid=spartandhp

    When you've lost FOX, you have diminished your stature:

    See the source image

  • Liberal Democrat
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    On top of all of this he supposedly revealed a Nay seal team's presence, being a former member of the armed forces myself, I can say that this is one aspect of what would be called a big mistake on his part, because you never want to reveal or out a special forces unit or persons doing secret or covert missions, let alone show their faces or identities on video or in pictures, it's call OPSEC, operations security. He might have signed their death warrants should those members ever get identified in public, or worse yet, get captured by an enemy force. Trump is a dunce.
  • Independent
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    The Iraqi government has demanded that all the US and foreign troops get out of the country. Somehow they are correct, because the US "invaded" that country; the Iraqi's did not invite them. Yes it is an kind of "occupation". If such thing would happen here; everyone would scream. Somehow Trump is correct that we've got our military in too many countries and still pay the price for it. Take Korea; we've been there since 1947; Okinawa since 1945; Germany since 1945; Japan since 1945 etc. etc.

    The cost to have our military staying all over the world is enormous; I would think with our present technology as well long distance arms etc. then this deployment could be substantially reduced.

  • Liberal Democrat
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    The Iraqi government can demand all it want's, we're stuck there, probably forever because this government of ours keeps inventing and reinventing boogie men. Meanwhile, American voters remain ignorant. Gotta' keep the military machine well oiled and the legislators constituents appeased. Defen$e contract$.
  • Independent
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    Dockadams Wrote: The Iraqi government can demand all it want's, we're stuck there, probably forever because this government of ours keeps inventing and reinventing boogie men. Meanwhile, American voters remain ignorant. Gotta' keep the military machine well oiled and the legislators constituents appeased. Defen$e contract$.

    Why do you think that the unemployment rate is so low? All the stupid kids who join are "employed" and paid by us.

    The problem is you don't get anything back for it, except the slogan; "this keeps us safe" How safe? Wow, we kill more local people with our own guns than any "foreign" entity or invader ever did ; 9/11 was only about 3000, but the local gun violence here kills a lot more per year than that.

    Also no one wants to invade this country with that much "debt" and "guns" around as well no up to date infrastructure.

  • Liberal Democrat
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    Just to clarify, the Iraqi government has not officially demanded the removal of US troops from Iraq. Some members of the Iraqi parliament have, but not "the government".

    Al-Monitor: Iraqi politicians call to expel US troops following Trump visit

    "US President Donald Trump's surprise visit to Iraq on Dec. 26 — and his break with protocol by not meeting his Iraqi counterpart — has caused an uproar among politicians in Baghdad, with parliamentarians demanding the expulsion of US troops.

    "Iraqi Prime Minister Adel Abdul Mahdi was the only Iraqi official to spoke with Trump during the visit, in a phone conversation at the end of his trip. The two had planned to meet, but the meeting was canceled due to disagreement over the location. Trump wanted Abdul Mahdi to meet him at the US base, while the Iraqi premier insisted Trump come to Baghdad.

    "According to a source in Abdul Mahdi's office who spoke to Al-Monitor in the condition of anonymity, Abdul Mahdi expressed his discontent over Trump's not visiting Baghdad. Trump expressed regret at not being able to visit Baghdad due to security concerns and invited Abdul Mahdi to visit the White House."

  • Independent
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    Schmidt Wrote:

    Just to clarify, the Iraqi government has not officially demanded the removal of US troops from Iraq. Some members of the Iraqi parliament have, but not "the government".

    Al-Monitor: Iraqi politicians call to expel US troops following Trump visit

    "US President Donald Trump's surprise visit to Iraq on Dec. 26 — and his break with protocol by not meeting his Iraqi counterpart — has caused an uproar among politicians in Baghdad, with parliamentarians demanding the expulsion of US troops.

    "Iraqi Prime Minister Adel Abdul Mahdi was the only Iraqi official to spoke with Trump during the visit, in a phone conversation at the end of his trip. The two had planned to meet, but the meeting was canceled due to disagreement over the location. Trump wanted Abdul Mahdi to meet him at the US base, while the Iraqi premier insisted Trump come to Baghdad.

    "According to a source in Abdul Mahdi's office who spoke to Al-Monitor in the condition of anonymity, Abdul Mahdi expressed his discontent over Trump's not visiting Baghdad. Trump expressed regret at not being able to visit Baghdad due to security concerns and invited Abdul Mahdi to visit the White House."

    May be you did not notice the "fat" flak jacket he had on under his shirt, that's why he looked like an "balloon" in his military extra large size jacket. This guy is very "scared" because as an "mob" boss you know your time will come. I guess he's got more enemy's than "friends".
  • Liberal Democrat
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    Sorry Dutch -- I saw several photos of Trump with his bomber jacket on, some unzipped with his white shirt and tie underneath, and it sure didn't appear to me that he wore a flak jacket underneath. Jared Kushner, as you recall went to Iraq and wore a flak jacket on top of his regular attire and was mocked for it. The flak jacket is bulky and one cannot hide it under a bomber jacket. In any case, if he did, members of the media would certainly have called it to everyone's attention. Nothing there.

    In any case, there were also many photos of him in regular coat and tie without the bomber jacket.

  • Independent
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    Schmidt Wrote:

    Sorry Dutch -- I saw several photos of Trump with his bomber jacket on, some unzipped with his white shirt and tie underneath, and it sure didn't appear to me that he wore a flak jacket underneath. Jared Kushner, as you recall went to Iraq and wore a flak jacket on top of his regular attire and was mocked for it. The flak jacket is bulky and one cannot hide it under a bomber jacket. In any case, if he did, members of the media would certainly have called it to everyone's attention. Nothing there.

    In any case, there were also many photos of him in regular coat and tie without the bomber jacket.

    Sorry Schmidt; he looked like an inflated balloon; look at it again. Or he ate way too much junk food with X-Mas.
  • Liberal Democrat
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    Betsy DeVos' brother, Erik Prince, founded the private security company named Blackwater to provide security in Iraq, where his firm pocketed roughly $1 billion from the U.S. taxpayers.

    https://www.aljazeera.com/programmes/headtohead/2019/03/blackwater-erik-prince-iraq-privatising-wars-trump-190307144602723.html

    Due to his "expertise", he now wants to privatize the war in Afghanistan.

    Not everybody thinks that's a good idea, which the link above demonstrates.

  • Independent
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    that guy in AZ Wrote:

    Betsy DeVos' brother, Erik Prince, founded the private security company named Blackwater to provide security in Iraq, where his firm pocketed roughly $1 billion from the U.S. taxpayers.

    https://www.aljazeera.com/programmes/headtohead/2019/03/blackwater-erik-prince-iraq-privatising-wars-trump-190307144602723.html

    Due to his "expertise", he now wants to privatize the war in Afghanistan.

    Not everybody thinks that's a good idea, which the link above demonstrates.

    Indeed an stupid idea; just like Trump getting an "wall" built of which he "pockets" even more "billions" via the contractors he selected. Even if he loses the 2020 election than that "money" keeps on "flowing" in his direction . Wake up America.