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  • Liberal Democrat
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    Most of us would think "here we go again" about yet another Christmas controversy. The latest one is a song that dates all the way back to 1944, and it has been covered by numerous artists since that time.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2018/12/13/arts/music/baby-its-cold-outside-history-facts.html?action=click&module=Top%20Stories&pgtype=Homepage

    If the song had been produced in 2018, we'd all be outraged because of the revelations of the MeToo movement. However, I think its necessary to use a little context here. At the time of its release, the song was considered to be "flirty" and non-controversial, and it was still considered that many years later.

    In a way, it reminds me of the hysteria over Mark Twin's use of the word "n....." more than 200 times in Huck Finn, Had the book been produced today, it would generate howls of protest, but it should be an acceptable book do to the fact that it accurately represents how people talked at that period of time.

    "Huck Finn" was first banned in March of 1885, a month after its publication, and it has managed to be banned by someone pretty much every year after that, and it is STILL one of the top 100 banned books, even today. Some of the other books on the list will make you scratch your head, since they seem fairly tame to me.

    http://www.ala.org/advocacy/bbooks/top-100-bannedchallenged-books-2000-2009

    I stumbled on the video below this afternoon. If you watch the entire thing, you'll notice that there is a dramatic role reversal at the end that will likely bring a smile to your face:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7MFJ7ie_yGU

  • Strongly Liberal Democrat
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    I'm typically someone who cringes whenever there's a manufactured outrage about something and really can't stand when something is boycotted because someones feelings were hurt, but that song deserves to be placed in the dustbin of history.

    My dislike of the song really doesn't have much to do about the MeToo movement, but because it's a song that is literally detailing how a man is spiking a woman's drink and preventing her from leaving him. There are a million other Christmas songs that don't talk about date raping a woman, so I don't think anyone would lose any sleep if it were retired for good.

  • Liberal Democrat
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    I believe there are many cartoons and other videos from way back when that today would be seen as over the top.

    I almost can't stand listening to Christmas anymore. What grabs me these days are the commercials on TV from St. Jude children's hospital and the ASPCA commercials depicting a 1/2 frozen dog chained to a tree & etc., those just about bring tears to my eyes.

    I believe I lost the Christmas spirit many years ago, but I still gift my spouse and our furry family member. I also lost my religion in my early 20's.

  • Strongly Liberal Democrat
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    Dockadams Wrote:

    I believe there are many cartoons and other videos from way back when that today would be seen as over the top.

    I almost can't stand listening to Christmas anymore. What grabs me these days are the commercials on TV from St. Jude children's hospital and the ASPCA commercials depicting a 1/2 frozen dog chained to a tree & etc., those just about bring tears to my eyes.

    I believe I lost the Christmas spirit many years ago, but I still gift my spouse and our furry family member. I also lost my religion in my early 20's.

    Dockadams said:

    "I almost can't stand listening to Christmas anymore. What grabs me these days are the commercials on TV from St. Jude children's hospital and the ASPCA commercials depicting a 1/2 frozen dog chained to a tree & etc., those just about bring tears to my eyes."

    Heartbreaking. I feel bad and guilty because I change the station but I can't handle watching knowing I am virtually helpless to change anything. I buy dog food every week and give $5 every week to the dog fund at checkout. The kids are a really hard to see. I remember watching the Danny Thomas show when I was a kid and hearing him talk about the hospital. I read it cost 2 million dollars a day to operate that hospital. We blow up trillions of dollars causing hate and misery but have to big for money to help kids.

  • Liberal Democrat
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    Chet Ruminski Wrote:
    Dockadams Wrote:

    I believe there are many cartoons and other videos from way back when that today would be seen as over the top.

    I almost can't stand listening to Christmas anymore. What grabs me these days are the commercials on TV from St. Jude children's hospital and the ASPCA commercials depicting a 1/2 frozen dog chained to a tree & etc., those just about bring tears to my eyes.

    I believe I lost the Christmas spirit many years ago, but I still gift my spouse and our furry family member. I also lost my religion in my early 20's.

    Dockadams said:

    "I almost can't stand listening to Christmas anymore. What grabs me these days are the commercials on TV from St. Jude children's hospital and the ASPCA commercials depicting a 1/2 frozen dog chained to a tree & etc., those just about bring tears to my eyes."

    Heartbreaking. I feel bad and guilty because I change the station but I can't handle watching knowing I am virtually helpless to change anything. I buy dog food every week and give $5 every week to the dog fund at checkout. The kids are a really hard to see. I remember watching the Danny Thomas show when I was a kid and hearing him talk about the hospital. I read it cost 2 million dollars a day to operate that hospital. We blow up trillions of dollars causing hate and misery but have to big for money to help kids.

    The reason children touch me so much is because years ago, I was leased to a delivery outfit who had Abbot Labs as a customer, and I delivered essential medicine and medical supplies all over 5 counties in northern Illinois, and there's nothing like ringing someone's doorbell in the dark of night and a child with no hair answers their door, parent beside them, and thanking you for bringing what their child needs to stay alive. Just like the little bald children you see in the St. Jude commercials, it's very touching.

    And, I don't understand why anyone would acquire a dog or cat or other domesticated animal and put them through unnecessary suffering, it's beyond me why people do that.

    There's so much pain in the world, and yes, money is squandered trying to kill people.

  • Independent
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    How about the 7 year old kid at the border who died; actually it is "murder", if you see the pieces of filthy ICE guys with a smirk on their face destroying all the drinking water, while the kid did walk for 100's of miles, such kid was totally dehydrated because of their actions. Who ordered ICE to destroy drinking water? Then these culprits should be put in jail and face the court for "murder". In the mean time Trump's sweet son went to Canada to "hunt".

    And don't forget the "skin over bone" children in Yemen; who also get bombed with US made bombs, while no one in Yemen attacked the US. Yes this is an"sweet" country.

    Indeed the Trump family does not "love" people, nor animals, nor anything on this world, except themselves.

  • Strongly Liberal Democrat
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    Dutch Wrote:

    How about the 7 year old kid at the border who died; actually it is "murder", if you see the pieces of filthy ICE guys with a smirk on their face destroying all the drinking water, while the kid did walk for 100's of miles, such kid was totally dehydrated because of their actions. Who ordered ICE to destroy drinking water? Then these culprits should be put in jail and face the court for "murder". In the mean time Trump's sweet son went to Canada to "hunt".

    And don't forget the "skin over bone" children in Yemen; who also get bombed with US made bombs, while no one in Yemen attacked the US. Yes this is an"sweet" country.

    Indeed the Trump family does not "love" people, nor animals, nor anything on this world, except themselves.

    google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/us...a
  • Independent
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    Thanks Chet; I hope lots of people look at this; these people and kids are also "humans" and want to live. However the Yemen disaster is even more cruel; and Ryan ("speaker" of the GOP) blocks the petition to stop this "famine". They should do the same to him as is done to those kids.
  • Liberal Democrat
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    Not to mock or make fun of this thread, but in my state, the polar vortex is back with a vengeance. I took this photo of my thermometer in my back yard this morning, the temperature was approximately -26 degrees Fahrenheit. I started our car about an hour ago and she moaned and groaned like she was ready for the grave yard.

    flickr.com/photos/66673048@N06/33053386...

    The wind chill was approximately -55 degrees Fahrenheit this morning. Dog gone cold!

  • Independent
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    Dockadams Wrote:

    Not to mock or make fun of this thread, but in my state, the polar vortex is back with a vengeance. I took this photo of my thermometer in my back yard this morning, the temperature was approximately -26 degrees Fahrenheit. I started our car about an hour ago and she moaned and groaned like she was ready for the grave yard.

    flickr.com/photos/66673048@N06/33053386...

    The wind chill was approximately -55 degrees Fahrenheit this morning. Dog gone cold!

    I used to live in Edmonton Alberta; my wheels would not even turn and the flat spot on the frozen tires ruined all the shocks which were also frozen solid; yes global warming is the cause; but Trump did never read an science book.
  • Liberal Democrat
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    When the polar vortex hits, it is said that it is "cold enough to freeze the balls on a brass monkey". One popular theory as to what that means is that brass carriers on ships (called monkeys) were used to hold cannonballs. If it got rally cold, the cannonballs would freeze to their holder.

    If you read the explanation at the end of the article below, though, you'll realize it is just another urban myth.

    However, there WERE brass monkey statues in Japan and China erected in the 19th and 20th century, so there IS a grain of truth to the slogan.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brass_monkey_(colloquialism)

    Besides Arizona, I also have lived in Minnesota, Wisconsin, and Illinois, so I am well aware what really cold weather feels like.

  • Liberal Democrat
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    I passed through Edmonton driving the Alaska Highway on the way back to the lower 48 after my separation from active duty at Eielson AFB in 1982, it was spring time and passing through the Rockies, I saw quite a few tornadoes forming. It was unsettling watching tornadoes in the not so far distance and knowing that there wasn't much a person could do to outrun them. Edmonton was quite an attraction.

    But yeah, I was stationed near Fairbanks Alaska, operated quite a few different pieces of snow removal equipment, and when temperatures dropped to minus 30 degrees, all snow and ice removal operations ceased because at those temps, equipment would break or snap because steel would lose their molecular composition due to being frozen solid. In my link is a pic of the ramp-flightline. I'd spent many hours there thawing out diesels just to get them back into the heated barns. And yeah, tires do get flat spots on them in the sub zero temps. No equipment or cars-trucks like that king of cold at all.

    We had no rubbish pickup today and no mail deliveries either today. Tomorrow will be just as bitter.

    flickr.com/photos/66673048@N06/10739276...

    eielson.af.mil/

  • Independent
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    When I was there in the 60's (lived there for 9 years) it was so cold that the whole house was creaking and some nails popped out of the walls because of the cold. I still remember driving an Kenworth truck up to Inuvik with an D9 Caterpillar on the flatbed ; what an horrible trip. Overnight just leave the thing running, otherwise you are unable to start the diesel again. Glad to live in FL, but still am busy to move; but the house does not want to sell yet.
  • Liberal Democrat
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    As of this morning, the death toll from the polar vortex is 21 people:

    https://www.nytimes.com/2019/01/31/us/iowa-student-death.html?action=click&module=News&pgtype=Homepage