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  • Liberal Democrat
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    As of January 20th, Nancy Pelosi will be 3rd in line for the presidency, and she will have subpoena power.

    Trump is obviously guilty of a whole lot of nefarious dealings, but Pence also has a few skeletons in the closet.

    Since 1789, 19 Members of the House have served as President of the United States. Four Members — John Tyler, Millard Fillmore, Andrew Johnson, and Gerald Ford— were never elected to the Presidency, having succeeded a President who died or resigned. Only Gerald Ford was never successfully elected as either President or Vice President, though he served in both positions.

    It does not appear that anyone has gone from Speaker of the House to the presidency, but it IS possible. If Pelosi managed to grab the brass ring, she would be the first person to go from being House Speaker to president, and she would also be America's first female president !

  • Liberal Democrat
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    Yes the 25th Amendment provides for the line of succession. If Trump resigns or is removed from office by the impeachment process, Pence would be sworn in as president. He would then nominate a successor to become the new VP, but that person would have to be approved by both houses of Congress.

    So the scenario where Speaker Pelosi could become President is if Trump and Pence were removed nearly simultaneously. That is highly unlikely. But if Congress refuses to approve the new VP nomination because they think Pence is guilty of something and also needs to be removed, then the position could remain vacant for a long time.

  • Independent
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    Schmidt Wrote:

    Yes the 25th Amendment provides for the line of succession. If Trump resigns or is removed from office by the impeachment process, Pence would be sworn in as president. He would then nominate a successor to become the new VP, but that person would have to be approved by both houses of Congress.

    So the scenario where Speaker Pelosi could become President is if Trump and Pence were removed nearly simultaneously. That is highly unlikely. But if Congress refuses to approve the new VP nomination because they think Pence is guilty of something and also needs to be removed, then the position could remain vacant for a long time.

    Keep on dreaming! It is time we get some young blood who's educated and knows about the world around us. The present government and outdated laws including the election system need an total revamp. Sorry, but the Titanic still goes full steam towards the iceberg.
  • Center Left
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    Old style politics. People are sick and tired of it all. They want change. Thus we have who and what we have in the White house. Our party will continue underachieving because they won't consider new thoughts or a new approach. Citizens are done with lifetime politicians who only serve themselves.

    Pelosi is fine. Probably hard working and intelligent. The bottom half of our country actively uses misogyny to discredit an entire gender. In the last election - 4 weeks ago.... there were dozens of different commercials stating X candidate is on board with and a puppet of Nancy Pelosi. Most have probably never even met her. While that approach is pathetic and offensive, it worked. The mindset is bad but they won the Gov. And Senate races.

    I personally like female politicians but I don't like lifetime politicians. Term limits is a separate topic.

  • Liberal Democrat
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    The media seems enamored with Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, a 29-year-old democratic socialist. Maybe Dems should make her Speaker so she can be 3rd in line for President. Ha.

    The Speaker's job requires critical skills and experience in knowing how to get critical pieces of legislation passed with some compromises. Nancy Pelosi is one of the most accomplished Speakers in history...her record speaks for itself. The reason so many Dems are against her is that they have drank the Republican Kool-Aid. Any accomplished Democratic politician is singled out by the Republican smear machine and attacked and attacked and attacked. Look what they did to Hillary Clinton, probably one of the most accomplished and experienced persons to have ever run for the presidency. And that made her a target as well. Oh and perhaps it's because they are both women.

    I personally like Pelosi's style much more than her Democratic counterpart in the Senate, Chuck Schumer.

  • Independent
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    Schmidt Wrote:

    The media seems enamored with Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, a 29-year-old democratic socialist. Maybe Dems should make her Speaker so she can be 3rd in line for President. Ha.

    The Speaker's job requires critical skills and experience in knowing how to get critical pieces of legislation passed with some compromises. Nancy Pelosi is one of the most accomplished Speakers in history...her record speaks for itself. The reason so many Dems are against her is that they have drank the Republican Kool-Aid. Any accomplished Democratic politician is singled out by the Republican smear machine and attacked and attacked and attacked. Look what they did to Hillary Clinton, probably one of the most accomplished and experienced persons to have ever run for the presidency. And that made her a target as well. Oh and perhaps it's because they are both women.

    I personally like Pelosi's style much more than her Democratic counterpart in the Senate, Chuck Schumer.

    Schmidt; It is just the same "old"; times have changed; "style" or "soft" spoken does not work anymore; if her counterpart is going to be Jordan, then the "mud" slinging is then the "norm". Sweet old ladies will be thrown under the bus.
  • Liberal Democrat
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    Nancy Pelosi is anything but a "sweet old lady". That's why Republicans hate her and attack her. They fear her more than anyone else in the House.
  • Strongly Liberal Democrat
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    Schmidt Wrote: Nancy Pelosi is anything but a "sweet old lady". That's why Republicans hate her and attack her. They fear her more than anyone else in the House.

    I genuinely don't understand (some) Democrats disdain for Leader Pelosi.

    She has single handily done more for the Democratic Party than any other modern day politician, up to and including President Obama. And I don't say that lightly.

    The two year period from Jan. 2009 to Jan. 2011 when Democrats controlled the House, Senate, and Executive were some of the most legislatively productive years in a generation. And what thanks did Pelosi get for helping pass the Recovery Act, Obamacare, and countless other pieces of legislation? Relentless bitching from far lefties for not doing enough even though anyone with a functioning brain and a elementary understanding of American civics understands that she simply didn't have the votes to pass a single thing the far left wanted. The other thanks she got was Democrats sitting on their ass at the absolutely worst possible time in the 2010 election.

    What's so depressing about (some) Democrats hatred of Pelosi is that they have fallen prey to the right-wing propaganda machine. Pelosi isn't the enemy, far lefties. You'll find that out the hard way if you push her out only to find out later that ANYONE Democrats pick as their leader will be depicted as the devil reincarnate by the right.

  • Liberal Democrat
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    Schmidt Wrote:

    Yes the 25th Amendment provides for the line of succession. If Trump resigns or is removed from office by the impeachment process, Pence would be sworn in as president. He would then nominate a successor to become the new VP, but that person would have to be approved by both houses of Congress.

    So the scenario where Speaker Pelosi could become President is if Trump and Pence were removed nearly simultaneously. That is highly unlikely. But if Congress refuses to approve the new VP nomination because they think Pence is guilty of something and also needs to be removed, then the position could remain vacant for a long time.

    There's still that nagging question of what did Pence know about Trump's felons and when did he know it?

    He could go down too if Mueller's team indicts Trump, Pence's knowledge of what was going on during the campaign would come into question.

    Pelosi has the experience and know how to lead as pro tempore president.

  • Independent
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    jaredsxtn Wrote:

    I genuinely don't understand (some) Democrats disdain for Leader Pelosi.

    She is a bit like HC, very good at what she does in terms of her political skills. And like HC, she is perceived as being a F'ing BITCH by men (republican or democrat) who don't like women who can take on men and beat them using the same methods. In the sports world, its the women who can out shoot the men in basketball, even though the men are taller and faster, or that Bitch that always clears the table in playing pool. AND she never apologizes... Simply stated, its an ego issue. Men tend to accept powerful women who are indirect and sexually manipulative, let men think they are in charge, but not really when it comes the key\important decisions. "That is such a great idea Joe, but don't you think we should...."

  • Strongly Liberal Democrat
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    wwjd Wrote:
    jaredsxtn Wrote:

    I genuinely don't understand (some) Democrats disdain for Leader Pelosi.

    She is a bit like HC, very good at what she does in terms of her political skills. And like HC, she is perceived as being a F'ing BITCH by men (republican or democrat) who don't like women who can take on men and beat them using the same methods. In the sports world, its the women who can out shoot the men in basket ball, even though the men are taller and faster, or that Bitch that always cleans the table in playing pool. AND she never apologizes... Simply stated, its an ego issue. Men tend to accept powerful women who are indirect and manipulative, let men think they are in charge, but not really when it comes the key decisions. "That is such a great idea Joe, but don't you think we should...."

    Men talk about doing it while women get the job done. Men have to disguise everything as a competition while women just get the job done. The only possible liability women have is their maternal instinct tolerating duplicitous colleagues.
  • Strongly Liberal Democrat
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    wwjd said:
    "She is a bit like HC, very good at what she does in terms of her political skills."

    And what I said earlier:

    "The only possible liability women have is their maternal instinct tolerating duplicitous colleagues.

    Applies directly to HC. I think She would certainly be President today if she had left Bill a long time ago.

  • Independent
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    Chet Ruminski Wrote:

    Applies directly to HC. I think She would certainly be President today if she had left Bill a long time ago.

    I agree with this, but not in present. I think it applies to the future. I don't think Democrats or Republicans would have accepted her (currently) as a legitimate powerful a political figure at national level if she had divorced Bill Clinton, which is maybe why they are still married; a marriage that works equally well for each in the later years of being political relevant... to be clear, I recognize its unfair, and misinformed to speculate on their personal relationship; what works between any two people is always unique and changes over time.