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Midterm Election Results (2018)

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  • Liberal Democrat
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    One of the immediate consequences of yesterday's election happened less than an hour ago. You can read my comments on THAT situation at the end of the thread titled "will Trump fire Sessions?".

    Now the "adults in the room" have regained control of the House of Representatives, there will be increased accountability for the Trump administration. Like a wolf who has been cornered, Trump quickly made a move that will give him better protection, which is why Sessions JUST resigned.

    Since Matthew Whitaker is officially the "acting attorney general", his permanent replacement would need to be confirmed by the Senate. By an amazing coincidence, the Republic Party managed to INCREASE its representation.

    Hmmm ..

  • Independent
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    Election Results: Trump is in payback mode.

    Trump's formula for winning is that if he does not get 100% of what he wants, then directly or indirectly, he extracts the difference through other means. Either give him everything he wants, or he will use his powers to punish people, this includes innocent people who can be used as "whipping boys". He will take hostile action against minorities, immigrants, dreamers, and any other group that are easy targets and are unable to defend themselves. He's the guy who beats his kids and forces the mother to watch so she knows what is going to happen next time that dinner is not ready when he gets home.

  • Liberal Democrat
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    that guy in AZ Wrote:

    One of the immediate consequences of yesterday's election happened less than an hour ago. You can read my comments on THAT situation at the end of the thread titled "will Trump fire Sessions?".

    Now the "adults in the room" have regained control of the House of Representatives, there will be increased accountability for the Trump administration. Like a wolf who has been cornered, Trump quickly made a move that will give him better protection, which is why Sessions JUST resigned.

    Since Matthew Whitaker is officially the "acting attorney general", his permanent replacement would need to be confirmed by the Senate. By an amazing coincidence, the Republic Party managed to INCREASE its representation.

    Hmmm ..

    Arizona -- Yes a permanent replacement for Sessions will have to be approved by the Senate. And Whitaker is unlikely to be approved for that important position based on his credentials, which are lacking.

    However, what if Trump delays nominating someone permanently for the position buying time for Whitaker to do his thing behind the scene? Could Trump effectively work with Whitaker indefinitely taking care of business? I don't know of any requirement that says Trump has to nominate anyone to fill the position in the next few weeks or months or ever.

    Trump doesn't follow rules. Most of these rules are not cast in stone as laws. And with Whitaker he has the Trump loyalist under his control that he always wanted. He doesn't want anyone else. If does go through the slow motions of nominating someone it might be another Whitaker clone or Whitaker himself.

  • Independent
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    Chet Ruminski Wrote:
    Dutch Wrote:

    Guy, "adults in the room" does not help if still in the "other room" idiots preside, like Mc.Connell, Orin Hatch, Grassly, and others who helped Kavanaugh in his position. Sorry to say the Trump disaster will continue and he is already focused on 2020. The bullying will continue and already warned the Dems not to stand in his way.

    Forget this whole midterm; effect "zero" ; Trump will only become worse than before, especially if Mueller, if ever?) comes with his report.

    Dutch, What is needed now is a plan. A single issue focused pertinent plan. Prosperity. I am reasonably sure that Trump's tax cut bought a lot of votes. The Republicans do well with a single issue, the prosperity of their constituents. The DNC needs to focus on the financial well being and security of the lower classes.

    Chet, I agree, but how are you going to get 235 million people to move in the right direction, if the total government only exists of corruption with an "mafia" leader? As well others like Gov. Scott in FL who enriched himself with 138 million while in office and the beaches are full with dead fish because of the pollution he created by taking money from the polluters.

    As long as this country stays as corrupt as it is now, then any normal thinking person will conclude that such things can't last forever. Let alone that the "lower classes" benefit from it.

  • Strongly Liberal Democrat
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    TJ Wrote:

    2 important races in Florida yesterday. We were up by 7 points in both polls. Lost both in close races. Florida is way too Red. About 4 Blue counties in a large state. Democrats continue to focus on big cities only. We're not going to speak to anyone who A. Goes to chuch or B. Has ever been to a church until what ? 2150..... Conversations and open minds are missing. We must find some common ground and discuss common interests with those who aren't our typical followers.

    Some progress was made.

    Mr. Mueller, please expedite your / our crucial investigation. Lying, cheating, stealing and hateful division are popular trends.

    "We were up by 7 points in both polls."

    People were embarrassed to say they supported Trump candidates. Although recently avoiding Trump, Scott was an early big-time Trump supporter fund raiser. Gillum did surprisingly well in FL spite of left stance. Trump's tax cut was the silent killer.

  • Strongly Liberal Democrat
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    Dutch Wrote:
    Chet Ruminski Wrote:
    Dutch Wrote:

    Guy, "adults in the room" does not help if still in the "other room" idiots preside, like Mc.Connell, Orin Hatch, Grassly, and others who helped Kavanaugh in his position. Sorry to say the Trump disaster will continue and he is already focused on 2020. The bullying will continue and already warned the Dems not to stand in his way.

    Forget this whole midterm; effect "zero" ; Trump will only become worse than before, especially if Mueller, if ever?) comes with his report.

    Dutch, What is needed now is a plan. A single issue focused pertinent plan. Prosperity. I am reasonably sure that Trump's tax cut bought a lot of votes. The Republicans do well with a single issue, the prosperity of their constituents. The DNC needs to focus on the financial well being and security of the lower classes.

    Chet, I agree, but how are you going to get 235 million people to move in the right direction, if the total government only exists of corruption with an "mafia" leader? As well others like Gov. Scott in FL who enriched himself with 138 million while in office and the beaches are full with dead fish because of the pollution he created by taking money from the polluters.

    As long as this country stays as corrupt as it is now, then any normal thinking person will conclude that such things can't last forever. Let alone that the "lower classes" benefit from it.

    Need to organise a party. The establishment DNC is not sensitive.
  • Strongly Liberal Democrat
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    Dutch,

    I learned a long long time ago that appealing to logic and common sense is not an attractive way to gain support. The biggest critic of union workers was not mega rich industrialists. It was non union workers. Non union workers are hard to organise because it threatens their livelihood and safety. So they complain about higher wages and benefits of union workers because of the almost impossible ordeal to unionization. The public outcry for justice is silent because of the negativity associated with fair treatment. Laws passed to aid the increase of wealth to the wealthy are applauded. Laws passed to increase the wealth and well being of the poor are shamed and vilified. The reality is that trickle up or capillary economics benefit everybody and lead to peace and tranquility. How much protest was recorded by wealthy people promising their tax cut windfall to progressive campaigners. ((( I'll bet wine and cheese fundraisers are thriving))). The Democratic Party has to focus and streamline its purpose around creating new goods and services jobs and guaranteed health care. Gambling has to be removed from the stockmarket and trading. The value of stocks should be determined by earnings and not high pressure salesmen.

  • Independent
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    Chet Ruminski Wrote:

    Dutch,

    I learned a long long time ago that appealing to logic and common sense is not an attractive way to gain support. The biggest critic of union workers was not mega rich industrialists. It was non union workers. Non union workers are hard to organise because it threatens their livelihood and safety. So they complain about higher wages and benefits of union workers because of the almost impossible ordeal to unionization. The public outcry for justice is silent because of the negativity associated with fair treatment. Laws passed to aid the increase of wealth to the wealthy are applauded. Laws passed to increase the wealth and well being of the poor are shamed and vilified. The reality is that trickle up or capillary economics benefit everybody and lead to peace and tranquility. How much protest was recorded by wealthy people promising their tax cut windfall to progressive campaigners. ((( I'll bet wine and cheese fundraisers are thriving))). The Democratic Party has to focus and streamline its purpose around creating new goods and services jobs and guaranteed health care. Gambling has to be removed from the stockmarket and trading. The value of stocks should be determined by earnings and not high pressure salesmen.

    Yes Chet, you see it correctly. trickle down economies don't work. Also don't forget, this is an huge country to govern. Just look at the difference between CA and Alabama. Therefore if every State makes also their own rules, it makes it even more difficult to get unity. Especially if an NY mob boss con man runs the show.
  • Liberal Democrat
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    Schmidt:

    An article in the New York Times this morning answered your question about long Mr. Whitaker. Here is a link to the article:

    https://www.nytimes.com/2018/11/07/us/politics/mueller-investigation-sessions-resigns.html?action=click&module=Top%20Stories&pgtype=Homepage

    Here are the pertinent paragraphs:

    After an administration’s first year in office, an acting official appointed under the Vacancies Reform Act may serve up to 210 days. But Mr. Whitaker could serve longer than that while someone else’s nomination to be attorney general is pending.

    If the Senate were to reject that nomination, or if it returned the nomination without acting on it because the congressional session had ended, Mr. Trump could start the process over and Mr. Whitaker could serve another 210 days or longer. But Ms. O’Connell said that Mr. Trump could not nominate Mr. Whitaker himself under the Vacancies Reform Act.

  • Liberal Democrat
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    1/2 and 1/2, more broken government. 1/2 of a blue wave. Nothing will get accomplished.
  • Liberal Democrat
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    Arizona -- Thanks for the article. I'll bet that Whitaker serves the full 210 days (7 months) and more if Trump manipulates the system. Whitaker is Trump's man...he will obediently follow Trump's orders but probably will maintain a low public profile.
  • Independent
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    Schmidt Wrote: Arizona -- Thanks for the article. I'll bet that Whitaker serves the full 210 days (7 months) and more if Trump manipulates the system. Whitaker is Trump's man...he will obediently follow Trump's orders but probably will maintain a low public profile.

    Schmidt, I hope you finally realize that the system itself is "broken"; old antique laws don't work, let alone "rules" if they are not transformed into laws. I wrote about that many times, but always was told how fantastic the Constitution is. Forget it.

    Again this shows that Trump can do whatever he wants because "rules" don't apply to him or in this case are stupid in the first place. What a dumb country.

  • Independent
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    Again it is FL where the shit is. No wonder with "brainless" people in this State. I can't imagine that there are people who approve of Scott who made (stole) $138 million while in office. He even ripped off FL hospitals before becoming Governor. He got dragged before court and claimed the fifth multi times. And still people vote for this crook who also took plenty of bribery money from all the polluters here. This elections "smells" badly, even the recount will be corrupted. An real honest country for sure. Down hill all the way.
  • Liberal Democrat
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    I regard the midterm election as a major victory for Democrats and the DNC who worked so hard with local parties to make it happen. Kudos to Tom Perez, Keith Ellison and the entire DNC staff for their two year effort to make this victory possible. Of course much of the credit must also go to the women, minorities, and young people who became energized like never before. I suppose a special thanks should also go to Donald Trump for being the catalyst for the renewed interest in government. As we keep adding more liberal young people and the Republican old folks keep dying off the future looks bright for the party.
  • Liberal Democrat
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    The mid terms only gave 1/2 of an advantage to democrats, yeah, everybody worked hard, but there is much to do. With the firing of Sessions, I wonder if it would be wise for the democrats to pursue investigations and/or impeachment proceedings, because voters might really view those as a real witch hunt.