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Good is not perfect


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  • Robert Peters
    2018-10-18 02:07:49 PM
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    Hello Everyone,
    I fancy myself poetic, but I know this is relative. I put my thoughts about what I see as the bigger picture within some pretty big and currently important issues in poem form. If you've got it in you give it a read I think you can find my philosophy is there rhyming away. I happily accept comments and advice. Please and let me know any thoughts.
    Thanks,


    Good is not perfect by Robert Peters

    You've gotta weigh the good with the bad
    cause perfection's something we've never had

    Deification is an indication perfection's been found
    But fallibility is as Human as only 2 feet on the ground
    Any investigation into anyone, deep or even slight
    Will quickly bring our obvious faults into public light

    Black and white are only colors and nothing near reality
    Look with more than a quick glance, it is there to see
    The acceptance of a conscience view "all is simply gray"
    Would eradicate the obvious need to keep all "others" at bay

    We are fallible for as Humans we can be nothing but
    But saying "I am not perfect, sorry" is only part of the cut
    "To error is Human" but what makes us profoundly more
    Is our ability to learn and help those we've put on the floor

    None of us are anywhere near an ethical or moral constancy
    But that beautiful brain easily can reduce this inconsistency
    See yourself and those around with a knowing and not critical eye
    Don't look for perfection, but for a compassionate, ethical try

    If someone comes forward stating "blood on your hands"
    Don't cower and attack but listen to where they stand
    Know that what to you could have been an insignificant episode
    To them it may well be what takes them completely off the road

    Compassion is an essential need, we're not out there alone
    A misstep or the most heinous act is a reality in the Human zone
    Beyond a need to protect and defend at any and all cost
    Is an examination of how to never again get so morally lost

    Black and white is a lower brain need of a lower brain "ok"
    Us and them, right and wrong, only show on which drums you play
    Don't live within such limitations distorting opinions and views
    That lump in your Brainbox evolved not for don'ts but for dos.

    Examine the gray around you evaluating its depth and hue
    Those who're not "above or below" but around are exactly like you
    They've done the stupidity that comes with our bipedalism
    Did they learn from their missteps, as an ethical, moral Human?
    Or did they beat that "us and them", un-evolved drum?


    Good luck out there
  • that guy in AZ
    2018-10-18 05:04:09 PM
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    Robert:

    An interesting post, and timely, since compassion seems to be in very short supply in Trump's America. I'm not a big fan of reading the Bible, but it is chock full of references to compassion:

    https://www.compassion.com/poverty/what-does-the-bible-say-about-compassion.htm

  • Robert Peters
    2018-10-18 09:43:13 PM
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    Hello to you that guy from AZ,

    In process of following your advice and I'll have a look.

    As you said the bible has a lot about compassion, and as you have the AZ moniker I'm thinking the US is also in your existence pretty heavily. The bible, a piece so entrenched in society touting compassion as you said, yet it doesn't exist in the US.

    This carries beyond our borders, for those who follow other religious ideals, those vehemently against, those "ethical/moral" or not seem to lean quite heavily in the other direction.

    Hope I didn't step on any of your or others toes and again thanks for your response. Compassionate of you.

    Good luck out there

  • wwjd
    2018-10-19 07:16:50 AM
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    Your poem will cause opened minded people to pause and think about the meaning of what is written. Political views not with standing.

    The closed mind is hard to penetrate, but I tend to think life takes care of that in the longer run. And in individual cases, some people are hardwired to lack empathy (or other human traits), and there is nothing can be done to change that about them, its like being born without a finger or some other part of the body, there nothing that can be done to give that person the missing part.

    There are demographic groups that admire leaders who lack empathy because such leaders can make hard choices quickly\easier without evaluating the ethical and humanitarian impact. For them, separating children from parents is nothing more than managing\mitigating the immigration process, ignoring the humanity of what is often politically called "Family Values". If not for existing laws, those who lack empathy would push even further towards efficiency without blinking an eye at the suffering they are causing. They are unable to connect to suffering of others; they literally have very little or no ability for compassion.

    However, many, if not most, can be reached. In my mind "To be saved" means to be saved from your own individual flaws that cause harm to others and\or yourself. Other ways of saying the same thing would be "Become aware" or to "Become Enlightened"

  • Chet Ruminski
    2018-10-19 12:17:50 PM
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    wwjd said in response to the poet:

    "The closed mind is hard to penetrate"

    Probably the main reason Bernie Sanders is not the premier of the Democratic Party.

  • Chet Ruminski
    2018-10-19 02:26:02 PM
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    that guy in AZ Wrote:

    Robert:

    An interesting post, and timely, since compassion seems to be in very short supply in Trump's America. I'm not a big fan of reading the Bible, but it is chock full of references to compassion:

    https://www.compassion.com/poverty/what-does-the-bible-say-about-compassion.htm

    Extrapolate Trump and he would end up with all the money and power. Remember his deals are only about more and not better. His power is immense. Remember when he stands in front of his adoring fans that the first public statement he made anout them at the beginning of his campaing was there wages were too high.

    m.youtube.com/watch?v=VRmi28fjNOs


  • Chet Ruminski
    2018-10-19 02:29:38 PM
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    And too prove the liar:

    Trump: I never said wages are too high - ...

    Politico › donald-trump-wages-215812

    Nov 12, 2015 · Taxes too high, wages too high, we're not going to be able to ... Trump: I never said wages are too high ... And I'm saying that if we're going to compete with ...

  • TJ
    2018-10-19 05:16:19 PM
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    Chet Ruminski Wrote:

    wwjd said in response to the poet:

    "The closed mind is hard to penetrate"

    Probably the main reason Bernie Sanders is not the premier of the Democratic Party.

    Premier ? He's not even a member.
  • Chet Ruminski
    2018-10-19 11:13:00 PM
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    TJ Wrote:
    Chet Ruminski Wrote:

    wwjd said in response to the poet:

    "The closed mind is hard to penetrate"

    Probably the main reason Bernie Sanders is not the premier of the Democratic Party.

    Premier ? He's not even a member.

    Begs the question "member of what"? A party should serve a constituency not the perpetuation of an organization. People are the country and the greatest good of the people should be served not the self gratification of power.

  • Robert Peters
    2018-10-22 12:32:14 AM
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    Hello to you wwjb,

    Thanks for your comment, it shows you took time and utilized your great brain. Good work.

    I have to say, however, that it is important to remember we all have crap that pulls away from moral and ethical thinking because we see our own current problems or issues as either overwhelming or more important. We all do this, if you are madly in love with someone you no longer care about the things so important prior.

    Added to this is the stress state. If your stress state is too high and your body is dumping Epi you cannot view the World outside of your state.

    We need to all get together to make a better tomorrow, but if we are under too much Epi we can't make out what is needed beyond our needs. So to make "it" better we all need to be brought out of that state too many of us are walking around with.

    Thank you again,


    Good luck out there

  • Robert Peters
    2018-10-22 12:43:09 AM
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    Hello Chet Ruminski,

    Thanks for adding your comment.

    It is important to see how President trump is drawn from point to point. If the crowd doesn't yell it falls away if a chant is started he tries it with the next group. Same meter, and it becomes an attachment.

    It isn't so much that he is good or bad but gray. His level of gray is due to his internal compass being disconnected from his ability to think beyond what he needs. Admiration. The cheers. Nothing beyond people liking him.

    If any other president that I can think of wanted a wall it would have gone up. Especially with both the House and Senate in his camp.

    It isn't that he wants any of the crap he chants, he just wants the adoring fandom.

    I will say simply that his biggest chant was "lock her up". "If I was President first thing she's going to jail!"

    Then nothing because he didn't want it only the cheering sycophants who don't even question "why isn't she locked up?", "why is there no wall?" It doesn't matter it is just a movement with no center and no direction.

    Thanks for the comments,


    Good luck out there

  • Robert Peters
    2018-10-22 01:09:33 AM
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    Hello wwjd,

    I think the reason Mr. Sanders isn't President is much more than just closedmindedness.

    It is but it isn't as cut and dry.

    Socialist, old, Jewish, it is because of these and other reasons so it is closemindedness, but so much deeper.

    The polarization is horrible. "Won't vote for the other side" is pretty new.

    Reagan for an example got a number of Dem votes because whether he was the "right man" or he seemed to be.

    When Clinton won instead of continuing to get the best person for the job the Reps who lost to him twice attacked his sexuality, which is ok for the situation, but it became a "look at what the Dems did" instead of look at what he did.

    The Gore and Jr debacle only widened this. Remember no one ever said Jr. was the best man for the job it was just who his daddy is and the fact he was a Rep. When Jr became President it was look at what the Reps are doing and not look at him.

    With Obama there can't be much more taken in than the fact he was Black, half, a bit didn't really matter. When the Reps lost a second time the Reps went hard at the "look at the state of the US the Dems have put us in." Completely forgetting that Jr. screwed us financially. Remember how he was the "biggest idiot" ever to be elected?

    Also any and all positives are negated completely. Jr. put us in 2 wars still basically going on but there were some good things he did. Clinton liked a "little head" but he still did good and bad things politically.

    Obama, ask any trump supporter and they beat their chests about him being the son of satin, Kenyan, anything to negate him as a human. This is the black, white and gray stuff I spoke of.

    That is a huge problem. That is chimpanzee thinking. Us and them, good and bad, zero depth of thought, no looking for the best person, zero investigation of morality and ethics of the person (grab 'em by the pussy) it is simply "as long as it isn't them."
    Then there is the Woman problem. Like Mr. Sanders, Mrs. Clinton had a list of points against her, but added don't forget Black Men got the vote 50 years before Women. Woman Dems actually voted for President trump because they, woman, didn't think a Woman could do the job.

    The cut is so deep and as with everything it's gonna take little baby steps to move forward. To many factors to be taken in with a country of 350is million.

    Thanks again,


    Good luck out there

  • Chet Ruminski
    2018-10-22 09:12:44 AM
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    Robert Peters Wrote:

    Hello wwjd,

    I think the reason Mr. Sanders isn't President is much more than just closedmindedness.

    It is but it isn't as cut and dry.

    Socialist, old, Jewish, it is because of these and other reasons so it is closemindedness, but so much deeper.

    The polarization is horrible. "Won't vote for the other side" is pretty new.

    Reagan for an example got a number of Dem votes because whether he was the "right man" or he seemed to be.

    When Clinton won instead of continuing to get the best person for the job the Reps who lost to him twice attacked his sexuality, which is ok for the situation, but it became a "look at what the Dems did" instead of look at what he did.

    The Gore and Jr debacle only widened this. Remember no one ever said Jr. was the best man for the job it was just who his daddy is and the fact he was a Rep. When Jr became President it was look at what the Reps are doing and not look at him.

    With Obama there can't be much more taken in than the fact he was Black, half, a bit didn't really matter. When the Reps lost a second time the Reps went hard at the "look at the state of the US the Dems have put us in." Completely forgetting that Jr. screwed us financially. Remember how he was the "biggest idiot" ever to be elected?

    Also any and all positives are negated completely. Jr. put us in 2 wars still basically going on but there were some good things he did. Clinton liked a "little head" but he still did good and bad things politically.

    Obama, ask any trump supporter and they beat their chests about him being the son of satin, Kenyan, anything to negate him as a human. This is the black, white and gray stuff I spoke of.

    That is a huge problem. That is chimpanzee thinking. Us and them, good and bad, zero depth of thought, no looking for the best person, zero investigation of morality and ethics of the person (grab 'em by the pussy) it is simply "as long as it isn't them."
    Then there is the Woman problem. Like Mr. Sanders, Mrs. Clinton had a list of points against her, but added don't forget Black Men got the vote 50 years before Women. Woman Dems actually voted for President trump because they, woman, didn't think a Woman could do the job.

    The cut is so deep and as with everything it's gonna take little baby steps to move forward. To many factors to be taken in with a country of 350is million.

    Thanks again,


    Good luck out there

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