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  • Liberal Democrat
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    This morning, Rod Rosenstein resigned as deputy attorney general. Since he appointed Robert Mueller, and is overseeing that investigation, it increases the possibility that Trump will fire Mueller, which he has threatened to do before. Current and former government officials, including lawmakers, had long warned Trump against firing or pushing out Rosenstein. Senate Democratic Leader Chuck Schumer warned Trump against seizing on the report that Rosenstein suggested covertly taping him.

    Trump can install a temporary replacement as deputy attorney general until he nominates a successor to Rosenstein who would have to be confirmed by the Senate.However, the Justice Department has a line of succession that could let Solicitor General Noel Francisco assume control of the investigation. One question is whether that would be considered inappropriate given that Francisco is a former partner of the Jones Day law firm, which has represented Trump for years. As solicitor general, Francisco has staunchly defended Trump administration policies while pursuing long-held conservative legal goals.

    Last Tuesday, Trump's best friend, Sean Hannity, stated on the air that Trump plans to fire Mueller after Hurricane Florence passes.

    https://www.newsweek.com/sean-hannity-donald-trump-hurricane-florence-1118526

    I wrote to Jeff Flake this morning, urging him to help the Senate pass additional protection for Mueller, and I also asked my congressman to start impeachment proceedings IMMEDIATELY if Trump fires Mueller.

    https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-09-24/rosenstein-said-to-resign-after-reports-he-mulled-taping-trump

  • Liberal Democrat
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    Where did you read that? Britebart.com?

    Amid reports that Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein may be leaving his post, President Trump and Rosenstein are set to meet at the White House on Thursday this week.

    msnbc.com/

  • Liberal Democrat
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    Dockadams:

    The news at 8:00 this morning, as reported by several reliable sources, was that Rosenstein had already verbally resigned to Kelly. Almost immediately, of course, there were conflicting reports from other sources:

    https://www.google.com/search?q=did+rod+roseensteinr+resign+to+john+kelly+this+morning&rlz=1C1GGRV_enUS787US787&oq=did+rod+roseensteinr+resign+to+john+kelly+this+morning+&aqs=chrome..69i57.14119j1j4&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8&safe=active&ssui=on

    I used Bloomberg's version this morning, since I consider it to be a reliable source, but since viewing their report this morning, the article got "tweaked" to remove the reference to the his alleged resignation.

    Breitbart, of course, was one source that had reported that Rosenstein had resigned, but Axios (a liberal source) also reported the same thing.

    Although news seems to move fast these days, it's no secret that Trump has wanted to get rid of both Rosenstein and Mueller for quite a while.

    Trump considered firing Mueller in both June and December of 2017, but was persuaded not to by his aides:

    https://www.nytimes.com/2018/04/10/us/politics/trump-sought-to-fire-mueller-in-december.html

    According to TIME magazine, Trump has wanted to fire Rosenstein for months.

    http://time.com/5403501/trump-rosenstein/

    In April, House Republicans tried to subpoena Rosenstein's notes about the Comey firing, and the House Freedom caucus drafted articles of impeachment against Rosenstein the same month.

    It's fairly likely that Trump will fire Jeff Sessions by the end of the year. As the article below points out, though, it would be a really dumb thing to do:

    https://newrepublic.com/article/150987/russia-investigation-trump-fires-jeff-sessions

    Trump certainly must feel that the walls of justice are rapidly closing in on him. To quote an old phrase, "just because you are paranoid doesn't mean that they are not out to get you".

  • Independent
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    It appears a few reporters jump the gun. Rosenstein still has his job.

    Lots of speculation.

    Did he offer to resign, and then trump ask to meet with him on Thursday?

    Everyone keep in mind trump is a coward and is incapable of firing anybody to their face. Trump will not fire Rosenstein in their thursday meeting, but if Rosenstein offers resign, Trump might accept the resignation because then Trump can say "I didn't fire him, he quit. What could I do? I can't make him keep the job. Don't blame me, its not my fault."

  • Liberal Democrat
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    Yeah, I typed Rosenstein fired in my MS search bar (bing) and Britebart came up as well as the rectal Washington examiner and some other hard right fake news agencies reported he'd been fired, MSNBC of course said he has a meeting w/fatass on Thursday. Go figure. No wonder right wing addicts tune into their fake noise sites, it fits their MO.

    I just wondered where you saw or heard the news.

    democratichub.com/posts/15514/wp-trump-...

  • Independent
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    Earlier in the week Micheal Moore stated there is a high probability that DT authorize the leak of memos with no plans of firing Rosenstien. It's was Trump attempt to distract from the Kavanugh debacle. It was trump version of yelling "There is a shooter at the elementary school" then later say "Never mind, it was just drill"
  • Independent
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    Can't recall if Micheal Moore said it, but someone did on MSNBC. Immediately after the election, DT will fire Jeff Sessions, and replace him with Lindsey Graham. Graham will then take over the Mueller investigation and shut it down. That's the deal DT has made with Graham.
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    Yes, indeed I'm afraid that Trump will fire Sessions and put Graham there; this will be the end of "justice" in this country.

    I don't hope he tries to do so before the midterms. If the Dem's win , I hope they find a way to reverse such.

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    Dutch Wrote:

    Yes, indeed I'm afraid that Trump will fire Sessions and put Graham there; this will be the end of "justice" in this country.

    Dutch, I am unable to determine if you are writing in literal terms or figuratively. You tend state thing in extremes, so its difficult to know where you stand when your comments reflect a perception that the US is just months way from total collapse, death camps, disbanding of all elections, and being governed by authoritarianism rule. Its like your perception is we are destine to become some kind reality from George Orwell's books 1984.

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    wwjd Wrote:
    Dutch Wrote:

    Yes, indeed I'm afraid that Trump will fire Sessions and put Graham there; this will be the end of "justice" in this country.

    Dutch, I am unable to determine if you are writing in literal terms or figuratively. You tend state thing in extremes, so its difficult to know where you stand when your comments reflect a perception that the US is just months way from total collapse, death camps, disbanding of all elections, and being governed by authoritarianism rule. Its like your perception is we are destine to become some kind reality from George Orwell's books 1984.

    I started writing years ago on this site; sorry to say all my predictions until now have been confirmed. I guess you are smart enough to realize that the "system" as designed in 1800, does not work today. Just look at the "circus" as exposed last week, let alone all the stupidity of an non-functioning "two" party system as well no proper laws and limits related to the leadership. Day by day it proves that the "system" is collapsing. Please tell me how did an idiot like Trump and his "mafia" bully cronies got there; the simple answer is due to an "corrupted system". Countries which are corrupt and where the "corruption" multiplies by the day, won't last; read your history books.
  • Liberal Democrat
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    Rosenstein is keeping pretty close to Trump and Kelly these days, they've been traveling around together on AF1.