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Book: "Fear" by Bob Woodward

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  • Independent
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    The book is about to be released, but selected parts have been pre-released. Most of the sources are those closest to the president. AKA... not just one deep throat, but many.

    washingtonpost.com/politics/white-house...

    Listen to the recording between Trump and Woodward.

    Bottomline: Trump is legally unfit to be president. He is mentally and emotional unstable. His own legal team classifies as a pathological liar and sociopath . He has been involved in Mob type criminal activities for decades.

    It's becoming a joke when trump say "Oh you wrote about book about me? Nobody told me about it. How come you didn't interview me". It code words for "I fucking lying to you". It's trump's pathetic attempt to create plausible denial, but its a bit like a little kid caught with chocolate cake all in his mouth and all over his face, while pointing to the family dog as the guilty party.

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    Adding.... keep in mind what Woodward has written is at best 10% of what has happened within Trump's inner circle. So when reading the book it is likely 90% of the shit that went down Woodward was never told not told about or could not verify 100%. Like a movie, more footage lays on the cutting room floor than makes it into the movie, same it true with this book.
  • Strongly Liberal Democrat
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    Woodward was talking to Trump and Trump asked him why Woodward didn't talk to him about writing the book. Woodward said he tried about 6 times to talk to him including talking to Kellyanne. Then Trump says Kellyanne walked in and she says she submitted the request and doesn't know why Trump didn't get it.

    My observation is if she had walk in status its hard to belive she didn't tell Trump that Woodward wanted to talk to him about a book Woodward was writing about Trump. Trump doesn't know about a lot of things apparently.

  • Independent
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    Many other books say the same thing; but it does not help if the "system" here can't remove an incompetent "idiot". Once Kavanaugh is confirmed, it will be an uphill battle to remove him; the Supreme Court "system" is totally ridiculous/useless because it has also become "partisan", instead of "independent/impartial" as it should be. Forget this banana republic.
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    Chet Ruminski Wrote:

    My observation is if she had walk in status its hard to belive she didn't tell Trump that Woodward wanted to talk to him about a book Woodward was writing about Trump. Trump doesn't know about a lot of things apparently.

    Yes, without any doubt she told him along with the various others. KellyAnne is likely to be one of Woodward's deep background sources too.

    What is a bit funny about listening to trump talking to Woodward is that trump is so bluntly BSing\lying for 11 straight minutes. I think all of us have encountered people have lied like that, yet because they lack self awareness, they don't know its extremely obvious. In this case, trump probably got off the phone feeling very proud of himself and turned to KellyAnne and said something like "See how easily I convinced him. Woodward thinks I didn't get the message. Woodward is so gullible; what moron"

    Then this morning trump will be totally ticked off that all reporting is to the contrary. He is frustrated not because he got caught lying on tape, he is frustrated because he perceives that people are too stupid damn to believe him when he is lying....lol. His perception of reality is that his base is much more intelligent because they believe his lies.... Man, talk about fucked logic.

    And I don't think any of us will be surprised that in the future, probably after trump is out of the office, his mental stability gets worse and worse to the point where his own family has him legally declared incompetent from an official mental disability. They do it to protect what ever is left $$$ of the trump Inc, and keep him from running around NY City totally nude chasing underage girls. :)

  • Liberal Democrat
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    Should anyone believe woodward?
  • Liberal Democrat
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    Dockadams:

    The short answer is "yes", but the slightly longer answer is "hell,yes"

    Bob Woodward has won nearly every American journalism award in his 45 year career. In 2004, Bob Schieffer of CBS News said, “Woodward has established himself as the best reporter of our time. He may be the best reporter of all time.”

    The article below provides more specifics:

    https://communications.yale.edu/poynter/bob-woodward-0

  • Strongly Liberal Democrat
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    Be interesting to see how Trump will spin "Woodwards Fair" which he has said many times.
  • Liberal Democrat
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    A story with no proof? Isn't this going to end up as being he said this and that? People like to have stuff like this backed up with facts, forget that woody has great credentials.
  • Strongly Liberal Democrat
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    It is hard to figure writing a book that controversial and not being able back it up. 100s of hours of recordings were said to back it up. Probably has a doomsday release for the recordings.

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    Chet Ruminski Wrote:

    It is hard to figure writing a book that controversial and not being able back it up. 100s of hours of recordings were said to back it up. Probably has a doomsday release for the recordings.

    The recordings is likely what trump fears the most. Not only recordings of WH staff talking directly with Woodward collaborating each other version of same events, but that Woodward has actually recordings given to him by WH staff of trump saying very incriminating things. aka trump saying "Fuck what is legal, just get it done even its against the law. It will take 10 years for the courts to make a final ruling, and it will be far too late to for anyone to stop me"

    We all need to keep in mind lying is something that trump can't stop doing even if he wanted too; a bit like a chronic alcoholic that has been getting drunk every day for 50+ years. Trump is equivalent to the most severe alcoholic, someone who is still drunk when he wakes up, and staying drunk is his #1 priority all day long.

  • Strongly Liberal Democrat
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    Woodwards Trump Trap:

    Trump can raise the book to the level of National Interest and Security. That could spur an investigation. That could establish the truth of the book. How Trump acts will determine the Truth. If he continues a war of words accusing and demeaning people that will prove the truth of The book. If he demands an investigation and quits accusing people that would prove the book is false. There is no way the latter will happen. It looks very likely that Woodward has ended the Presidency of Trump.

  • Independent
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    I wonder what Mueller will think of all the latest developments? I hope that he "prepares" an total "character" picture of this unfit idiot.
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    Dutch Wrote: I wonder what Mueller will think of all the latest developments? I hope that he "prepares" an total "character" picture of this unfit idiot.

    From a strictly legal perspective he will. The report will stay away from any psychological evaluation. I can see the report stating "We have overwhelming evidence that Donald J. Trump has been directly or indirectly involved in criminal activity going back over 40 years. There is further evidence that he has done business with over-sea criminal organizations over the past two decades."

  • Independent
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    Watched some of Woodward interviews today. So why is the book called FEAR?

    Imagine you are a passenger on a 747 and the plane is on auto pilot at 50,000 ft. It becomes known that pilot has no flying experience on any type of plane, he lied and cheated to get his pilot's licence. He is so arrogant that he truly believes he can fly the 747 and at any moment he might take control the plane and turn off the auto pilot. The moment he does, there is 100% chance that plane will start to spin out of control and everyone will die.

    The only person on the plane with a parachute is the fake pilot.

    "FEAR" represents many different things in the context of the book.

    FEAR by WH staffers that trump will panic out of his own FEAR that the truth will be exposed about himself, and because of that he will do something so extreme, nothing can be done to reverse what he sets into motion. US generals may be able to stop trump from launching a preemptive a nuclear attack, but the US can not prevent other countries from launching nuclear warheads if trump suddenly tweets at 4am he is declaring war on other countries and says he has ordered the launching US warheads immediately.

    Woodward is saying if trump panics, there is high he probability he will go not only too far, but EXTREMELY too far.