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Was Trump chosen by God?

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  • Liberal Democrat
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    Dutch -- Are you preaching to me?

    A couple of more extracts from the article:

    "Andrew Whitehead, an assistant professor of sociology at Clemson University who focuses on the rise of Christian nationalism, agreed with Fea. “Christian nationalist rhetoric, defending America’s Christian heritage” — all these, he said, were common tropes throughout American history. “But what makes Trump interesting, a test as to the power of this Christian nationalist rhetoric, is that regardless of personal piety … his use of that rhetoric still resonated, and people still voted for him.” Trump managed to capture the evangelical imagination without being particularly evangelical — or, indeed, personally religious — himself.

    "The Cyrus narrative allows evangelicals to thread a difficult rhetorical needle. It allows them to see Trump as “their” candidate — a candidate who will effect God’s will that America become a truly Christian nation — without requiring Trump himself to manifest any Christian virtues. He is, like Cyrus, anointed by God and thus has divine legitimacy (Trump’s spiritual advisers, including evangelical figures Robert Jeffress and Paula White, have repeatedly hammered this point), but he has no obligation to live out Christian principles in his personal life."

    This exposes the hypocrisy of the Christian evangelicals and how their brains work. I am not endorsing their hypocrisy. But to dismiss and scorn a major Republican voting block outright makes it more difficult to chip away at their beliefs.

  • Independent
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    Schmidt Wrote:

    Dutch -- Are you preaching to me?

    A couple of more extracts from the article:

    "Andrew Whitehead, an assistant professor of sociology at Clemson University who focuses on the rise of Christian nationalism, agreed with Fea. “Christian nationalist rhetoric, defending America’s Christian heritage” — all these, he said, were common tropes throughout American history. “But what makes Trump interesting, a test as to the power of this Christian nationalist rhetoric, is that regardless of personal piety … his use of that rhetoric still resonated, and people still voted for him.” Trump managed to capture the evangelical imagination without being particularly evangelical — or, indeed, personally religious — himself.

    "The Cyrus narrative allows evangelicals to thread a difficult rhetorical needle. It allows them to see Trump as “their” candidate — a candidate who will effect God’s will that America become a truly Christian nation — without requiring Trump himself to manifest any Christian virtues. He is, like Cyrus, anointed by God and thus has divine legitimacy (Trump’s spiritual advisers, including evangelical figures Robert Jeffress and Paula White, have repeatedly hammered this point), but he has no obligation to live out Christian principles in his personal life."

    This exposes the hypocrisy of the Christian evangelicals and how their brains work. I am not endorsing their hypocrisy. But to dismiss and scorn a major Republican voting block outright makes it more difficult to chip away at their beliefs.

    No Schmidt, I'm not a preacher, and certainly do not preach to you, you are mostly 99% correct all the time, so don't worry. I just make statements to the ignorant "evangelicals" who live in la la land and don't realize "bibles" were written by "people", not by little monsters on Mars.
  • Liberal Democrat
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    It's a well known fact that Trump has strong support in the evangelical Christian community .. as of one year ago, his favorable rating in this group had rise to 75%

    https://www.newsweek.com/trump-evangelicals-support-millennials-888267

    Trump and White Evangelicals: Support for President Grows, But Millennials Leave Movement - newsweek.com

    Social conservatives’ support of the man evangelical candidate Ted Cruz once decried as possessing “New York values” looks counterintuitive. And it once was. During the 2016 primary season ...

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    This morning's New York Times posted a story that goes into more detail about why strongly religious people (and we all know a few) still strongly support Trump, and even refer to him as "the president"

    https://www.nytimes.com/2019/03/15/nyregion/trump-preacher-magachurch.html?action=click&module=Editors%20Picks&pgtype=Homepage

    #MAGA Church: The Doomsday Prophet Who Says the Bible Predicted Trump - The New York Times - nytimes.com

    Central to Beth Israel’s story is the unlikely rise of its pastor, a liberal Jew transformed into an end-times evangelist. The tale is also a step into a controversial and burgeoning layer of ...

    www.nytimes.com

    here are a few "talking points" ion the article listed above:

    Every weekend, some 1,000 congregants gather for the idiosyncratic teachings of the church’s celebrity pastor, an entrepreneurial doomsday prophet who claims that President Trump’s rise to power was foretold in the Bible.

    A recent Fox News poll found one in four Americans believe “God wanted Donald Trump to become president.

    And on the opening day of the Conservative Political Action Conference this month, the millionaire businessman Michael Lindell took to the stage and declared President Trump “chosen by God.”

    In it, Mr. Cahn likens Mr. Trump to the biblical king Jehu, who led the ancient nation of Israel away from idolatry.

    This weekend he is making his first trip to the president’s vacation retreat, Mar-a-Lago. He is set to address a small gathering of activists and advisers.

    Mr. Cahn said abortion, gay rights and the perceived retreat of religion in the public square were all troubling signs that America, like ancient Israel, had lost its way.

    Bill Clinton and Hillary Clinton, for example, are the modern-day analogues to wicked Ahab and Jezebel. Trump is the warrior-king Jehu, who took control of the nation and cast idols out of the capital. “Jehu also sought to drain the swamp,” Mr. Cahn said.

    There were murmurs through the room. Mr. Cahn concluded and then gently reminded the crowd about the booths in the back. Congregants could buy shawls, jewelry and apocalypse-themed calendars. Books were for sale, he said. New members could even get a gift copy, signed free of charge. (Wait. What? Didn't Jesus drive the money changers from the Temple?)

    https://www.bibleodyssey.org/en/passages/main-articles/jesus-and-the-moneychangers

    Jesus and the Money Changers (John 2:13-16)

    The Gospel of John places the story of Jesus’ action in the temple toward the beginning of Jesus’ public activity, while the other Gospels place it toward the end. This might seem like a simple case of three against one, and thus easily settled. In actuality, since Matthew and Luke follow Mark’s structure, it is a case of Mark versus John.

    www.bibleodyssey.org

    After President Trump had moved the United States Embassy to Jerusalem — the subject of great excitement at the church — she believed she saw the New York skyline light up in heavenly sparks. “God did that,” she said, thrusting the phone forward.

  • Independent
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    Arizona, a long and great story, which in a few words says : How crazy can you get. The only truth is that "religion" is one of the biggest curse on this planet. Billions of people on this tiny planet are/were murdered because of it. This human "invention" only took place because of "fear" of the unknown. The second curse invented by "people" is "money" it killed also billions because of "greed". The third is the invention of " leaders" ( like animals also do) who are either "holy" or "nuts". Through the centuries they've killed billions of people by wars because of wanting "power" over other/more people. The fourth curse is "gun's" enough said about that.

    Thus it is the "animal instinct" which will never end; except the human "species" may end because this "species" is slowly but surely polluting its own environment and therefore the left over "bacteria" may win in the end. The path of which "humanity" is on right now, can't last; nothing from outer space ( let alone a "human" written "book"), or long dead "Jesus hero's" are going to save the "people" stuck to this planet or save this "planet itself. Amen

  • Independent
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    On the news this morning: 69% of the white evangelicals are still for Trump. Thus the message is how do you convince these fanatics to vote otherwise? Sorry I've never seen anything like this before, except during the "middle ages" in France; burn the witches. Sorry this "island" is doomed, if it continues this way.
  • Independent
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    May be not the "evangelicals" but these also support Trump: Enjoy!

    Afbeelding kan het volgende bevatten: de tekst 'BIKERS FOR TRUMP'

  • Liberal Democrat
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    The cover of the most recent issue of TIME magazine asked whether Trump should be impeached, Nancy Pelosi is reluctant to pursue impeachment at this point. Although we would all love to get rid of Trump, NOT impeaching him would be a politically savvy move, because impeaching him would make THIS guy our next president:

    Pence is fervently anti-gay and anti-abortion, but he is far from the only "religious nut" that is influencing Trump's decisions.

    Most of us wonder why Trump decided to suddenly remove trans people from the military. The long version of the story can be found in the link below, but here is the short version:

    https://tohell-andback.blogspot.com/2017/07/welcome-to-transylvania.html

    James Dobson, the founder of Focus on the Family and the Family Research Research Council, recently expressed his belief that transgender people using public bathrooms should be killed, completely ignoring the fact that “irregularities” in public bathrooms were the exclusive domain of Republican politicians.

    The Family Research Council was founded by James Dobson in 1983. In recent years, the group has also set up a Facebook page called Faith Family America.

    https://www.facebook.com/faithfamilyamerica/

  • Independent
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    Arizona; How come that all these "nutty" organizations are arising since Trump took office; at least Trump (for himself) made the right choice of Pence. But yeah how to get rid of all these idiots in 2020 will be an difficult task, especially in the Supreme Court, where now also "holy" people have a voice.

    Nunes (the biggest idiot there is) is suing Twitter because they are not Conservative enough. Why is this guy still in the Government? Democrats do your job and kick him out!

  • Center Left
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    Was Trump chosen by God. I literally cringe everytime I read that.

    A meme I once read said Trump wasn't chosen by God but his rise was a test. We failed.

  • Liberal Democrat
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    Chet Ruminski Wrote:
    Dockadams Wrote: Bush 43 thought god called on him too, to war with Muslims. He called it "god's calling" or a "higher power". Voters beware of these types of people, they'll easily send your sons and daughters off to die in useless wars and conflicts.
    "Crusades" mentality. Rationalize anything carrying out "God's Wishes". They seem to forget that if God wishes something it is done according to their beliefs.
    Sky Pilot was a good song.
  • Strongly Liberal Democrat
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    The Lord's Prayer. "I pray that they do what they're supposed to do to carry out my wishes"
  • Liberal Democrat
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    Dockadams:

    You sure brought back a lot of memories. This song was released by the Animals way back in 1968. Due to the length of the song (7:27), you had to listen to both sides of the 45 rpm record to hear the entire song.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sky_Pilot_%28song%29

    If you can spare 7 minutes or so, it's fun to watch the video. You may notice that Hitler (who was raised a Catholic) makes an appearance.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j1XO2blhmYM

    The Nazi belt buckle (see below) read Gott mit uns, which is translated as "God is with us".