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Good paying jobs.

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  • Liberal Democrat
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    Dave Volek Wrote:
    Dockadams Wrote: Define a "good paying job" in detail please, and also include a wage scale for people living in Mississippi vs New York, or comparison with other states.

    Dock: I think you opened up a great can of worms.

    I spent a few years on the "working poor" side of life. I managed to pay the rent on my apartment and keep a car running. My income of about C$1200 a month was sufficient for my location.

    But if a similar person has a tobacco addiction and needs to spend one evening a week in a pub and eats out twice a week at fast food places, that $1200 won't go far in my town.

    When we do eventually institute a GBI everywhere, the amount will be based on a location-by-location basis. There will be a thorough study of what it costs to live in each locality. A GBI in New York city will likely be higher than rural Oklahoma.

    I'm always doing that.

    My spouse and I were once homeless, back in 2005-2006, living off the grid in New Mexico, I acquired a FREE Golden Age department of forestry pass, which enabled us to utilize US forest lands without necessary or required fees, and we also camped out on BLM lands there too. I know what it's like living on the edge with no money in our pockets, and being just about without provisions. Thankfully, the climate in New Mexico is very fair and forgiving, because if it were not, we could have frozen to death.

    You see the answer which was given about the question I asked about defining what IS a good job. I didn't see any member or respondent reply to a dollar amount of what a GOOD PAYING JOB is. I believe it's because it cannot be defined because the economy in different areas of the USA differs greatly. A gallon of gas in Chicago, Illinois averages over $3.00 per gallon, and the same gallon of gas in Tulsa, Oklahoma is about a dollar cheaper.

    I wonder what the OP believes is a "living wage"? Skilled and unskilled worker? Presently, the federal minimum wage is $7.25 per hour, and that's not much at all, it's a slave's wage.

  • Dave Volek
    Brooks, AB
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    Dockadams Wrote:
    You see the answer which was given about the question I asked about defining what IS a good job. I didn't see any member or respondent reply to a dollar amount of what a GOOD PAYING JOB is. I believe it's because it cannot be defined because the economy in different areas of the USA differs greatly. A gallon of gas in Chicago, Illinois averages over $3.00 per gallon, and the same gallon of gas in Tulsa, Oklahoma is about a dollar cheaper.

    I wonder what the OP believes is a "living wage"? Skilled and unskilled worker? Presently, the federal minimum wage is $7.25 per hour, and that's not much at all, it's a slave's wage.

    All good points. And we can also argue that those with children to support definitely require a higher living wage than those without. However, it would be unfair for the employer to provide a higher wage because he has hired a dedicated breadwinner rather than an unencumbered-with-children person. Life is not fair sometime, and were we to put the onus on the employer to be fair, breadwinners would not be desired people.

    Many on the politically left do not think things through all the way through. It is great to shout "pay a living wage", but there are ramifications to economy and social structure to implement this kind of social policy.

    A minimum wage should be phased out as a GBI is phased in. Many other social programs should also be phased out.

    If the going rate for a studio apartment in Tulsa is $700 a month, that would be a minimum GBI for Tulsa. Of course, we should add a few hundred more for food, cellphone, TV and internet, and some discretionary funding (maybe $1200 a month?). If the recipient wants a better apartment, he should get a job.

  • Strongly Liberal Democrat
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    Said Dockadams:

    "I had to laugh at your response because giving people a GBI is absurd. It's another shot at a social program which probably won't work"

    Agree. All that has to be done is follow FDRs lead and regulate Wall Street. Make stocks valuable because of earnings and an industrial service rerevolution will eat up labor causing wages to rise causing more spending causing wages to rise. Prosperity.

  • Strongly Liberal Democrat
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