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Political Hackers, so what ?

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  • Strongly Liberal Democrat
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    "Microsoft said that Russian "Hackers" are now targeting Conservative groups"

    What can hackers really do? Most postings are already loaded with propaganda. What can a hacker do to sway minds?

  • Independent
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    Chet Ruminski Wrote:

    "Microsoft said that Russian "Hackers" are now targeting Conservative groups"

    What can hackers really do? Most postings are already loaded with propaganda. What can a hacker do to sway minds?

    Chet, hackers can fight this country as another "warfare" tool; it is not only influence peddling as well disruption in your daily life. Propaganda warfare works; ask Hitler. All of this can be done in the "shadows" so that you don't even know that you are being indoctrinated and programmed. It is all done very sneaky and un-noticed and subtle.

    For instance, you are always talking about "good wages" ; someone put that into your head; that is called programming.

  • Strongly Liberal Democrat
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    "For instance, you are always talking about "good wages" ; someone put that into your head; that is called programming."

    Dutch, Demanding good wages is not a figment of my imagination sparked by a subliminal suggestion of a propagandist. I have observed for over 60 years the pain and suffering caused by big business and big money trying to stifle wages, break unions, hinder safety and destroy human rights. That is blatantly obvious and if it is not obvious to you I suggest you reevaluate the conditions of the working poor. Denying the working poor got Trump elected president.

    I can see hackers accessing data but changing the words in a web sight to produce a subliminal message without the owners of a web sight discovering the alteration is a far stretch. It is probably an idea put forward by companies trying to get funding to fight hacking.

  • Strongly Liberal Democrat
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    Here is insight to what hackers can do.

    m.huffpost.com/us/entry/7832730

  • Liberal Democrat
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    What can a hacker do to sway minds?

    They can post fake news stories on social media, and once those are posted, it goes viral and then people who use social media pick up on it and repeat it over and over. It can cause real harm for political candidates as we've seen from 2016. Hacking shouldn't be taken lightly, as it can affect all of us who are unsuspecting citizens.

  • Independent
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    Chet Ruminski Wrote:

    "For instance, you are always talking about "good wages" ; someone put that into your head; that is called programming."

    Dutch, Demanding good wages is not a figment of my imagination sparked by a subliminal suggestion of a propagandist. I have observed for over 60 years the pain and suffering caused by big business and big money trying to stifle wages, break unions, hinder safety and destroy human rights. That is blatantly obvious and if it is not obvious to you I suggest you reevaluate the conditions of the working poor. Denying the working poor got Trump elected president.

    I can see hackers accessing data but changing the words in a web sight to produce a subliminal message without the owners of a web sight discovering the alteration is a far stretch. It is probably an idea put forward by companies trying to get funding to fight hacking.

    Chet, sorry to say, as I said all along; good wages are coupled to plenty of other things; good wages on itself is not an issue. There are plenty of people who earn 200K but find that not a good wage for what they do; ask people in Walmart may they say it is not an good wage, but could not get an better paying job. So it totally depends from what position you look at it. Therefore bringing it up all the time does not affect or change the world we live in. In any society there are poor and rich.
  • Strongly Liberal Democrat
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    "Therefore bringing it up all the time does not affect or change the world we live in. In any society there are poor and rich."

    Dutch, Reread what you just wrote above and then remember that poor people vote. I said all through the campaign that "Lots of good paying jobs " could win the election. Keep on denying the working poor and it will get worse. More crime, violence and racial conflict.

  • Strongly Liberal Democrat
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    An 11-year-old changed election results on a replica Florida state website in under 10 minutes

    (Jennie Neufeld, Vox.com)


    I'm far more worried about hackers changing election results than I am about hackers spreading disinformation.

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    Chet Ruminski Wrote:

    "Therefore bringing it up all the time does not affect or change the world we live in. In any society there are poor and rich."

    Dutch, Reread what you just wrote above and then remember that poor people vote. I said all through the campaign that "Lots of good paying jobs " could win the election. Keep on denying the working poor and it will get worse. More crime, violence and racial conflict.

    Chet I guess you are not getting it; what you use is just an dumb slogan; thus tell me first what is an "good paying job"? I guess to be a "stock broker" or a "day trader" or a "window washer" or a "policeman" or a "politician" who rips of people? Good paying jobs require "skills" and are never "hand outs" because you think so. Any company determines what people for a certain function should earn. Trump certainly does not determine what an "baby sitter earns"
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    jaredsxtn Wrote:

    An 11-year-old changed election results on a replica Florida state website in under 10 minutes

    (Jennie Neufeld, Vox.com)


    I'm far more worried about hackers changing election results than I am about hackers spreading disinformation.

    I'm more afraid of the naive "deplorables" which stick to Trump as "glue" as well the other tricks and lies they will invent.
  • Strongly Liberal Democrat
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    Dutch said:

    "thus tell me first what is an "good paying job"?

    First of all Dutch you believe people should exist at a level provided by their marketable skills. Buying life. But you also criticize the USA capitalist system and consumerism. Dutch you can't be any more of an abusive capitalist by saying people only deserve what they earn and then stand in the way of their earning capability. Laws have been continually passed to let wall street make more and more money easier. That is not fair. But according to you it is because you do not believe people at the lowest levels of education and intelligence should be helped to make enough money to afford the necessities of life. You are the prime example of the banana republic you like to accuse the USA of being. You contradict yourself by first complaining about the USA capitalist system then espouse the worst capitalist comment that their will be rich and poor people then criticize any effort to be fair to the poor people. That is not humanitarian. There is no reason that every person on earth can't have all the necessities of life. All that is needed is for the trillions of dollars being stagnated is for that money to be invested in jobs producing ventures. Nobody has to be given anything except a fair opportunity to earn the necessities of life. The present choice is imposing suffering and early death on those not able to compete in the narrowed system of opportunity. Making more money easier and faster is denying billions of people a safe healthy life. It has been published that 4000 workers will lose their lives building the 2022 World Cup Complex. No public outcry. That is exactly how obedient to big money the world has become.

  • Strongly Liberal Democrat
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    This is a crime against humanity:

    "The derivatives market is, in a word, gigantic – often estimated at more that $1.2 quadrillion on the high end.

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  • Strongly Liberal Democrat
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    Dutch Wrote:
    jaredsxtn Wrote:

    An 11-year-old changed election results on a replica Florida state website in under 10 minutes

    (Jennie Neufeld, Vox.com)


    I'm far more worried about hackers changing election results than I am about hackers spreading disinformation.

    I'm more afraid of the naive "deplorables" which stick to Trump as "glue" as well the other tricks and lies they will invent.
    Deplorable's will stick to Donald no matter what, but at least they aren't hacking into our electoral systems and changing votes.
  • Strongly Liberal Democrat
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    jaredsxtn Wrote:
    Dutch Wrote:
    jaredsxtn Wrote:

    An 11-year-old changed election results on a replica Florida state website in under 10 minutes

    (Jennie Neufeld, Vox.com)


    I'm far more worried about hackers changing election results than I am about hackers spreading disinformation.

    I'm more afraid of the naive "deplorables" which stick to Trump as "glue" as well the other tricks and lies they will invent.
    Deplorable's will stick to Donald no matter what, but at least they aren't hacking into our electoral systems and changing votes.
    Don't forget the supporters that will vote but not express support.
  • Independent
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    Chet Ruminski Wrote:
    jaredsxtn Wrote:
    Dutch Wrote:
    jaredsxtn Wrote:

    An 11-year-old changed election results on a replica Florida state website in under 10 minutes

    (Jennie Neufeld, Vox.com)


    I'm far more worried about hackers changing election results than I am about hackers spreading disinformation.

    I'm more afraid of the naive "deplorables" which stick to Trump as "glue" as well the other tricks and lies they will invent.
    Deplorable's will stick to Donald no matter what, but at least they aren't hacking into our electoral systems and changing votes.
    Don't forget the supporters that will vote but not express support.
    Jared; yes they will also change the votes, by means of lies, gerrymandering and suppress certain groups of voters by making sure the voting location is not in their district etc. The "hacking" is also done on behalf of the GOP who refuses to even fight against it in congress.