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  • Independent
    Ft.myers, FL
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    Trump sent Pence to promote his fantasy about a Space Force; I guess Trump got bored on his vacation and watched too many space fantasy movies. I guess he wants to battle the "aliens" the same he does on earth. But yeah this cost only another 8 billion; just add this to the cost of the "wall" and all his useless rally's. Anyway "space" does not belong to Trump or this country; you just can't invade it and destroy it like the US usual acts. Trump is already destroying "space" by spewing it full with toxic gasses of our industry and eliminating emissions "rules". Furthermore the only one's who go to space are brought there by the Russians to the space station. I hope the Russians ask the double fee, because of the sanctions. I guess Trump as well Pence and others live in la la land. If such a force is going to be part of the "military" then there will only be more waste and bureaucracy and will cost billions more than 8 billion, without any return on investment.
  • Liberal Democrat
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    Kenosha, WI
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    Yeah, that's about as ignorant as Ronald Reagan's star wars initiative. Even the space shuttle program was very expensive to operate.

    This is proof that republicans are NOT fiscally conservative. Except when a democrat is in the white house, and the congress has a democrat majority, then they're conservatives.

    I could think of many other ways to peacefully spend $8B, like healthcare and infrastructure here on earth.

  • Liberal Democrat
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    Tucson, AZ
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    The story about Pence promoting the Space Force program just popped up this morning. Since the Trump administration is truly wacky, the story actually seemed believable. If you dig a little deeper, though, you will discover that the story is just another great satire piece from the Onion:

    https://politics.theonion.com/pentagon-officials-listen-in-silence-as-mike-pence-deta-1828231250

    It looks like the angel-guided defense system is not going to happen anytime soon, but it does add another dimension to the phrase, "Lord help us".

  • Center Left
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    I believe they will want to push for some sort of a space force program. Crazy and unnecessary sure but, tons of money will be spent and the initiating conman will somehow figure out how to get a favorable slice of the self serving pie.

    Air force already employs a lot of people watching for Satellite security.

  • Independent
    Washington
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    In general, often it is a thin line between a brilliant idea that motivates an entire country to obtain a goal vs. ideas that are just F'ing nuts. The race to the moon is an example where the entire country rallied behind being the first to land on the moon. A Space Force falls into later pile of political BS. Likely several billions will be spent, making a few government contractors very very rich, knowing from day one that they are working on a project that is leading no where, but they are more than willing to take huge sums of money before the project is cancelled due to the laws of physics and other realities.

    Trump: "I want a space ship that will go 100 times the speed of light like in that movie "Zombies vs Aliens""

    Contractor: "No problem, we'll get started right away. We'll need a few billion to start"

    Trump: "The VA has billions in extra cash sitting around, so we'll spend that. Vets are going to die anyway, so they don't need it"

  • Independent
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    en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Outer_Space_Treaty

    Trump is an idiot. Pence is a more dangerous idiot.

  • Strongly Liberal Democrat
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    Pensacola, FL
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    Trump knows how to get a job done.

    trumpnationalbedminster.com/welcome

  • Liberal Democrat
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    Tucson, AZ
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    Back in August, I was under the impression that the Space Force was just a crazy rumor cooked up by the editors of The Onion. Sadly, the idea is as serious as a heart attack, and it was still alive in November:

    http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2018/nov/11/case-for-space-force-lies-with-defense-department-/?utm_source=GOOGLE&utm_medium=cpc&utm_id=chacka&utm_campaign=TWT+-+DSA&gclid=CjwKCAiAgrfhBRA3EiwAnfF4tn8AiNteWKdH8sj65-9SOYrzYL0NJNNTX9la9sVGlhSgY8BtlNiSbRoCTRQQAvD_BwE

    Here's a key sentence from the article listed above:

    Mr. Trump, Vice President Mike Pence and other White House officials have been leading the charge, arguing that the U.S. cannot fall behind rivals such as China in preparing for space warfare.

    This morning, the remaining members of Pink Floyd must be smiling, because the Chinese just landed a lunar rover on "the far side of the moon".

    A prism refracting white light into a rainbow on a black background

    http://www.cnn.com/2019/01/02/health/china-lunar-rover-far-moon-landing-intl/index.html

    The Chinese claim that their space program is for peaceful purposes, but Trump doesn't believe them. How long do you think it will take before he starts tweeting about the Space Force again?

    Since the Democrats took control of the House again this morning, I'm of the opinion that the Space Force is even less likely to get approved than the $5 billion that Trump wants for his wall. Incidentally, if you've got a good sense of humor, you may appreciate the fact that a woman named Charlotte Clymer has started a GoFundMe campaign for ladders, and it raised $127,000 in 4 days.

    http://www.abc15.com/news/national/gofundme-page-created-to-raise-money-for-ladders-to-climb-border-wall

  • Strongly Liberal Democrat
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    Pensacola, FL
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    Need to develop a word that encompasses all forms of space weapons and then generate an international body to regulate and criminalize then. Like a before the fact anti nuclear arms ban.
  • Liberal Democrat
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    Chet:

    The Outer Space Treaty was initiated in 1967. A of October 2018, 107 countries were party to the treaty, and 23 have signed, but have not ratified yet.

    The treaty is overseen by the United Nations Committee on the Peaceful Uses of Outer Space. The link below goes into more detail:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Outer_Space_Treaty

  • Strongly Liberal Democrat
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    Pensacola, FL
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    that guy in AZ Wrote:

    Chet:

    The Outer Space Treaty was initiated in 1967. A of October 2018, 107 countries were party to the treaty, and 23 have signed, but have not ratified yet.

    The treaty is overseen by the United Nations Committee on the Peaceful Uses of Outer Space. The link below goes into more detail:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Outer_Space_Treaty

    I remember the controversy with SDI and all the efforts to create new and different laws. Seemed like the powers to be were neglecting the Outer Space Treaty promoting their own interests. Lot of fun was made about Regan' s Star Wars. I generally support all and any spending as long as it has a broad focus. We made fun of Star Wars alluding to Regan losing it. Regan was losing it going out of his way trying to destroy what he supported when he was a Democrat. There is even a Regan saying taxes should hurt.
  • Strongly Liberal Democrat
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