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  • Liberal Democrat
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    rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news...

    NRA claims it's in financial trouble, and warns it may cease to exist, great news!

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    Dockadams Wrote:

    rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news...

    NRA claims it's in financial trouble, and warns it may cease to exist, great news!

    I doubt it; there are enough nutty billionaires who love to shoot everything what moves, including Trump's sweet sons who like to eliminate wild life in Africa. Also it is an excellent "money laundering" machine for the rich to peddle influence into the elections.
  • Liberal Democrat
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    Dutch Wrote:
    Dockadams Wrote:

    rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news...

    NRA claims it's in financial trouble, and warns it may cease to exist, great news!

    I doubt it; there are enough nutty billionaires who love to shoot everything what moves, including Trump's sweet sons who like to eliminate wild life in Africa. Also it is an excellent "money laundering" machine for the rich to peddle influence into the elections.
    Absolutely correct. Money to buy votes. The NRA should hold a patent on it.
  • Liberal Democrat
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    One day ago, the Daily Beast reported that the NRA's income dropped by $55 million last year. Be sure to send your thoughts and prayers.

    https://www.thedailybeast.com/the-nra-just-reported-losing-dollar55-million-in-income

  • Liberal Democrat
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    that guy in AZ Wrote:

    One day ago, the Daily Beast reported that the NRA's income dropped by $55 million last year. Be sure to send your thoughts and prayers.

    https://www.thedailybeast.com/the-nra-just-reported-losing-dollar55-million-in-income

    I'd rather toss the NRA an anvil.
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    Yesterday, Maria Butina pleaded guilty to conspiracy to act illegally as an unregistered Russian foreign agent. Since 2011, she has worked for Alexsandr Torshin, who was a former member of Vladimir Putin's United Russian Party.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maria_Butina

    Torshin started attending NRA meetings in 2011, and then-president David Keene attended a meeting of the Russian group "Right to Bear Arms" in Moscow in 2013.

    In 2013, Butina met Republican political operative Paul Erickson in Russia. The two became close, started dating, and eventually moved in together. In 2015 she emailed him a description of her plan to help the Republicans win the 2016 elections through the National Rifle Association (NRA).

    In 2015, a number of NRA officials attended Right to Bear Arms's annual gun conference in Russia. Among them were Keene, gun manufacturer and NRA first vice president Pete Brownell, conservative American political operative Paul Erickson, and Milwaukee County sheriff David Clarke. One of their hosts was Russian Deputy Prime Minister Dmitry Rogozin, who in 2014 was sanctioned by the White House following Russia's invasion of Ukraine. Clarke's trip cost $40,000, with all expenses paid by the NRA, Pete Brownell (an NRA board member and CEO of a gun-parts supply company) and Right to Bear Arms. According to a disclosure Clarke filed, Right to Bear Arms paid $6,000 to cover his meals, lodging, transportation and other expenses. During the meeting, Clarke met the Russian foreign minister and attended a conference at which Torshin spoke. In November 2016, Torshin tweeted that he and Butina were lifetime NRA members.

    In a June 2015 article published in The National Interest, a conservative American international affairs magazine, just before Trump announced his candidacy for president, Butina urged better relations between the United States and Russia, saying, "It may take the election of a Republican to the White House in 2016 to improve relations between the Russian Federation and the United States." Her biography on the article did not mention that she worked for the Russian government. The next month, Butina attended FreedomFest, where Trump gave a speech, and asked him from the audience about ending U.S. sanctions against Russia, to which he replied, "I don't think you'd need the sanctions." Butina hosted a birthday party attended by Erickson and Trump campaign aides shortly after the 2016 election

    To paraphrase one of Trump's tweets, the connection between the NRA and the Trump campaign is a "smocking gun"

    Since the NRA spent $30 million to get Trump elected, he should start to think about resigning, before the news gets REALLY ugly.

  • Liberal Democrat
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    I've been watching the Maria Butina conspiracy on MSNBC. Wow, if she is cooperating in a big way, it could be really significant in several fronts. The leaders of the Republican Party and the NRA that were caught up in this must be sweating now.

    The NRA used to be a gun safety organization until they were taken over by and became a front for the gun manufacturers...and maybe now also the Russians. Treason?

    Lock them up!

  • Independent
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    Schmidt Wrote:

    I've been watching the Maria Butina conspiracy on MSNBC. Wow, if she is cooperating in a big way, it could be really significant in several fronts. The leaders of the Republican Party and the NRA that were caught up in this must be sweating now.

    The NRA used to be a gun safety organization until they were taken over by and became a front for the gun manufacturers...and maybe now also the Russians. Treason?

    Lock them up!

    You forgot that they are "pass through" "money laundering service" for the GOP and their leader. What a country!
  • Liberal Democrat
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    The first day of the NRA meeting should be, shall we say, interesting.

    Marina Butina just got sentenced to 18 months in prison for conspiracy charges. Like her boyfriend, Paul Erickson, she has strong ties to both Russia and the NRA. Erickson is likely to receive sentencing in the near future. If that is not collusion, I don't know what else you would call it.

    https://www.cnn.com/2019/04/26/politics/maria-butina-sentencing/index.html?cid=web-alerts&nsid=11056202

    Here's more info on Erickson:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Erickson_(activist)

  • Liberal Democrat
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    Poor NRA, their spokesperson locked up and will probably be deported, unless trump pardons her.
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    The NRA meeting in Indianapolis just got a lot uglier.

    The recently-installed NRA president, Oliver North, tried to oust Wayne LaPierre, but his plan backfired. Instead, North will no longer be the president after his current term ends.

    https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/oliver-north-out-nra-828284/

    The ouster of its president, of course, is not the only problem the NRA faces.

    As Rolling Stone has reported, the NRA has been in financial trouble for a while. And as America’s anti-gun movement grows, the attacks are coming from multiple angles. The NRA admitted it has been unable to secure insurance. The group Everytown for Gun Safety recently sent a letter to the IRS asking them to look into its tax-exempt status as a non-profit because of financial irregularities. And New York regulators led by Gov. Andrew Cuomo are also investigating the NRA’s tax exemption and seeks to block the NRA’s access to financial services.

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    that guy in AZ Wrote:

    The NRA meeting in Indianapolis just got a lot uglier.

    The recently-installed NRA president, Oliver North, tried to oust Wayne LaPierre, but his plan backfired. Instead, North will no longer be the president after his current term ends.

    https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/oliver-north-out-nra-828284/

    The ouster of its president, of course, is not the only problem the NRA faces.

    As Rolling Stone has reported, the NRA has been in financial trouble for a while. And as America’s anti-gun movement grows, the attacks are coming from multiple angles. The NRA admitted it has been unable to secure insurance. The group Everytown for Gun Safety recently sent a letter to the IRS asking them to look into its tax-exempt status as a non-profit because of financial irregularities. And New York regulators led by Gov. Andrew Cuomo are also investigating the NRA’s tax exemption and seeks to block the NRA’s access to financial services.

    They lost lots of money due to giving it to Trumps campaign; they may as well have burned that money. That is what you get if you built up an organization which started with "lies" ; nowhere it says in the "second amendment" that "civilians" can own guns; it says: "militia" could own them at the time of writing this amendment. That is what you get if "laws" are written such way that any corrupt lawyer can twist and turn it so it suits them. Such is the case right now, that is why we now have an "mob boss" in power without rules or enforceable laws which can remove him. You can't run an country on "case" laws indefinitely; while the base laws are outdated.

    Don't forget they were an "pass thru" for Russian "laundered money", but Mueller forgot to mention it of course as an staunch Republican. The NRA is just an "crime club" nothing else.

    All of it an self inflicted wound.

  • Liberal Democrat
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    Trump showed his allegiance to the NRA this week by announcing that the United States is withdrawing from the 2013 Arms Trade Treaty that had been signed by Barack Obama.

    The 193-nation U.N. General Assembly overwhelmingly approved the pact in April 2013 and the United States, the world's No. 1 arms exporter, voted in favor of it despite fierce opposition from the NRA.

    The NRA spent $30.3 million in support of Trump's 2016 presidential campaign, according to the Centre for Responsive Politics, a group that tracks campaign spending.

    https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/international/business/donald-trump-pulling-u-s-out-of-u-n-arms-treaty-heeding-nra/articleshow/69067926.cms

    This is the 3rd year in a row that Trump has attended the NRA meeting, but he has not attended the White House Correspondent's Dinner since being elected president.

  • Liberal Democrat
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    Trump has a long history of connections to "the merchants of death".

    In the early 1980'a, he bought a 282 foot yacht from Adnan Khassogi, the notorious arms dealer, and renamed it the Trump Princess. He only owned it for a few years before he was forced to give it to his creditors.

    Adnan Khassogi was Jamal Khassogi's uncle, and Jamal's career as a journalist may have been an effort to distance himself from the misdeeds of his uncle.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2017/06/06/world/middleeast/adnan-khashoggi-dead-saudi-arms-trader.html

  • Strongly Liberal Democrat
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    Schmidt Wrote:

    I've been watching the Maria Butina conspiracy on MSNBC. Wow, if she is cooperating in a big way, it could be really significant in several fronts. The leaders of the Republican Party and the NRA that were caught up in this must be sweating now.

    The NRA used to be a gun safety organization until they were taken over by and became a front for the gun manufacturers...and maybe now also the Russians. Treason?

    Lock them up!

    Money and power corrupt. When I was a kid the NRA was more of a recreational source. Then.....

    The NRA once supported gun control

    Salon.com


    nra in the 50s from www.salon.com

    Jan 14, 2013 · It was not until 1977 when the NRA that Americans know today emerged, after libertarians who equated owning a gun ..

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